The “hot mess inside a dumpster fire, inside a train wreck” is a solid take. I would have loved to see the approval numbers had Bernie gone third party here. (Before you kill me, I understand that would have made Trumps position stronger and this is only as a hypothetical) Bernie would have crushed in this debate. Angry, sure, but back in on the issues like a laser beam, not mudwrestling. Bernie has vision, real tangible plans and answers to healthcare, climate, end corruption, international relations, everything these two stooges lack completely. That said Biden has less far gone dementia than feared. Maybe they juice him up on Adderall, it doesn’t much matter, he is still ****, but far less **** than Trump.
He did. They were all there on the campaign website.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/ probably still there, far more detailed than EWs for example who was somewhat famous for her plans.
Biden also happens to have a website. Shocking I know
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/
Plenty of policy stuff. A bit hard for Biden to make it clear when he has a moron screaming at the other end of the stage, and the debate moderator asking stupid questions.
Also, we had so many Bernie-Biden debates already, complete with annoying extra parties on the stage. And a one on one debate, where Bernie stans tried the Dementia angle and it fell completely flat.
Also, I happen to remember when Warren released actually detailed plans, and Bernie fans shat on her for being a nerd and just kept repeating slogans. Which is also what Bernie did. His plans are not how the healthcare system work in the rest of the world, and it doesn't set out a clear way to do it, it is literally magical pie in the sky. We will cover everybody, fully, with everything and pay for it with ???
And his entire plans would add an estimated 60 Trillion extra in expenditure over 10 years, which is more than double the federal government's current total expenditure.
And lol on foreign policy. Bernie's plan is tariffs and retreat. Tariffs are already shown to be a failed policy tool, as Trump has shown.
And of course, he had zero ideas on how to pass any of it and was resistant on doing stuff like getting rid of the filibuster, that would make it actually possible. Or using extensive executive orders, like Harris or Warren proposed. His plan was basically reconciliation, and speeches.
Don't confuse radicalism for being the only one with a plan
Watching Biden in the debate was nothing short of disgusting.
When will people realize that at least Trump has a fan base? What does Biden have? Some tv channels?
Man, you think that after the Democratic primary happened, people would realise that Biden does have an enthusiastic base of support. Older lower to middle-class voters, particularly African Americans. Who are critically unserved in terms of attention given by the media, and online. Which is why his primary win ended up being a surprise.
A perfect encapsulation of that, is Biden going to the NY Times for an endorsement interview, who ended up giving a joint one to Warren and Klobuchar (which is stupid). But he got a rave endorsement from the black security guard, which became a viral moment.
Let alone the usual Democratic partisans that every Democrat would pull, and the people that hate Trump. Biden has well over 90% of Democrats in his pocket already, and the few that aren't are more likely to be conservative Dixiecrats, who are Democrats in name only. And he has an overwhelming majority of independents.
And he has 8% of former Trump voters, so he is winning over some Republicans, and winning back some Obama-Trump voters. There is a reason he is leading by 7-9 points nationally on average.
