2020 US Election (Part Two)

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The Rock says absolutely nothing and Kamala and Joe smile fakely and grossly and pretend they're his buds
Was anybody expecting a 'Great Moments in Political Speeches' from the Rock?
 
In WWE 2k20 story mode the Rock was the president of the USA!
Too bad I've gone off the idea of celebrity presidents in the last few years...
 
Jesse - The Body - Ventura> The Rock

Who does Glossu Rabban support?
Unrelated, Ventura was an interesting governor of Minnesota. Minnesota politics had been a revolving door of centrist Democrats and Republicans representing all the old timber and grain barons. Venture came in and broke that setup, dragging the DFL and state Republicans into 'modern politics'. He was also rather influential in revitalizing Metro Transit through developing light rail (indeed, a train appears on his official portrait).
Unfortunately, he had no power base and was despised by both the DFL and GOP so his entire political career was fighting and cajoling them while dealing with stories in the press - some true, some not so much - which resulted in his last years being a bit of a paranoid wreck.
 
I find it hilarious that Republicans are ****ting on the Rocks endorsement, because oh celebrity Democrats, when it is Republicans that have twice now run celebrities for President, (Reagan and Trump).

Laura "Shut Up and Sing" Graham loves inviting Republican celebs onto her show to offer their political opinions.
 
Just because the victim co-operates does not mean that it is not a crime.

No he was never a victim, especially since he was in a more powerful position than any of them. He willingly forfeited the legal right to nominate he had over them at the time. Now because it was likely done over being pressured it shows not victimhood but weakness. Plus its not a crime if he Moderator Action: Snip... out and waivered his right like any coward would do.

Moderator Action: Please don't use that word. It's offensive. --LM
 
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Let us remember that this is the crazed millionaire who's seeking to colonise the night sky with a fleet of satellites of his own which nobody ever asked him for and which, as he defines himself as ‘economically right-of-centre’, he's only doing for a profit, but he's still viewed by some as a champion of the green left.

Elon Musk says he may vote for Trump, despite saying climate crisis is existential threat
Tesla boss waiting until debates to decide his vote

With just five weeks to go until the US presidential election, Elon Musk is still an undecided voter.

Speaking to the New York Times' Kara Swisher on Monday, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO offered up a cagey answer when asked if he would be voting for Donald Trump.

"Um, let's just see how the debates go," Mr Musk said on Ms Swisher's new podcast, Sway.

When the host asked Mr Musk why the debates — the first of which is slated for Tuesday — will be the determining factor for his vote, he answered, "I think that's probably the thing that will decide things for America. I think people just want to see if Biden's got it together. … If he does, he probably wins."

Mr Musk went on to describe his political views as "socially very liberal and then economically right of centre, maybe, or center? I don't know. Obviously I'm not a communist".

When it comes to Tesla and electric cars, Mr Trump has been "as supportive as he can be", Mr Musk claimed, given the massive support he has from the oil and gas industries.

"I have spoken to the president about sustainable energy many times," Mr Musk said. "There are times when he's been supportive, but then, at the end of the day, he has got way more support from the oil and gas industry because it's way bigger. The electric car industry is small."

Mr Musk's comments may come as a surprise, considering he's long championed sustainable energy and fighting climate change, neither of which have been priorities for the Trump administration. In 2017, he gave up his seat on Mr Trump's advisory council after the president decided to pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement.

However, the president and the billionaire entrepreneur have recently appeared to be on good terms again. Earlier this year, Mr Trump attended the SpaceX and NASA astronaut launch in Florida, and he publicly defended Mr Musk's calls to resume production at Tesla's California plant amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Back in 2016, Mr Musk didn't publicly support Mr Trump's presidential campaign. In fact, the Tesla boss said at the time that Mr Trump was "probably not the right guy" to lead the country because he "doesn't seem to have the sort of character that reflects well on the United States." Mr Musk did, however, previously back others for the 2020 presidential race, including Andrew Yang and Kanye West.​
 
No he was never a victim, especially since he was in a more powerful position than any of them. He willingly forfeited the legal right to nominate he had over them at the time. Now because it was likely done over being pressured it shows not victimhood but weakness. Plus its not a crime if he wimped out and waivered his right like any coward would do.
The victims are the people, who went alogn quietly instead of forming workers' councils and eating the rich.
 
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Let us remember that this is the crazed millionaire who's seeking to colonise the night sky with a fleet of satellites of his own which nobody ever asked him for and which, as he defines himself as ‘economically right-of-centre’, he's only doing for a profit, but he's still viewed by some as a champion of the green left.

Elon Musk says he may vote for Trump, despite saying climate crisis is existential threat
Tesla boss waiting until debates to decide his vote

With just five weeks to go until the US presidential election, Elon Musk is still an undecided voter.

Speaking to the New York Times' Kara Swisher on Monday, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO offered up a cagey answer when asked if he would be voting for Donald Trump.

"Um, let's just see how the debates go," Mr Musk said on Ms Swisher's new podcast, Sway.

When the host asked Mr Musk why the debates — the first of which is slated for Tuesday — will be the determining factor for his vote, he answered, "I think that's probably the thing that will decide things for America. I think people just want to see if Biden's got it together. … If he does, he probably wins."

Mr Musk went on to describe his political views as "socially very liberal and then economically right of centre, maybe, or center? I don't know. Obviously I'm not a communist".

When it comes to Tesla and electric cars, Mr Trump has been "as supportive as he can be", Mr Musk claimed, given the massive support he has from the oil and gas industries.

"I have spoken to the president about sustainable energy many times," Mr Musk said. "There are times when he's been supportive, but then, at the end of the day, he has got way more support from the oil and gas industry because it's way bigger. The electric car industry is small."

Mr Musk's comments may come as a surprise, considering he's long championed sustainable energy and fighting climate change, neither of which have been priorities for the Trump administration. In 2017, he gave up his seat on Mr Trump's advisory council after the president decided to pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement.

However, the president and the billionaire entrepreneur have recently appeared to be on good terms again. Earlier this year, Mr Trump attended the SpaceX and NASA astronaut launch in Florida, and he publicly defended Mr Musk's calls to resume production at Tesla's California plant amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Back in 2016, Mr Musk didn't publicly support Mr Trump's presidential campaign. In fact, the Tesla boss said at the time that Mr Trump was "probably not the right guy" to lead the country because he "doesn't seem to have the sort of character that reflects well on the United States." Mr Musk did, however, previously back others for the 2020 presidential race, including Andrew Yang and Kanye West.​

Absolutely shocked that a dude from a South African precious stone mining background might have affinities here.
 
...the Tesla and SpaceX CEO offered up a cagey answer when asked if he would be voting for Donald Trump ...

Showing signs of common sense.

Declaring support for one candidate means annoying up to half your
potential customers, and the other candidate particularly if he wins.


Earth and Water. A simple token of your submission. Mix them together and you have mud.

So that was how the spartans held the pass for so long, they got the Persians bogged down in mud.
 
Showing signs of common sense.

Declaring support for one candidate means annoying up to half your
potential customers, and the other candidate particularly if he wins.




So that was how the spartans held the pass for so long, they got the Persians bogged down in mud.

They used the Persian scouts as mortar, no need for mud.
 
You're right, he'd theoretically be out. But then again, most of his 'acting appointments' are also illegal and yet nothing is done. Yesterday a court finally removed the acting head of the Burea of Land Management who was illegally appointed....500 days ago.

We have to stop thinking in terms of what is legal for Trump to do and instead think in terms of what he can get away with. If the GOP Senate* does not move to stop him from installing himself for a second term, he will. At that point we only have the courts to fall back on and with a 6-3 SCOTUS (with 3 of those 6 being Trump appointees), we can't count on that either. And we can't discount that he would just ignore a court order as well.
I don't think that's quite comparable. The president does have the right to make appointments to the offices you mention; the issue in this case is that his appointments were not subject to appropriate oversight. The ruling is not that Trump attempt to exercise a power which is not legitimately possessed by the executive branch, but that in exercising this power he did not follow the correct procedure.

In contrast, if Trump's term expires without his re-election, he does not have the right to appoint himself as acting presidency, no more so than any other civilian who qualifies for nomination. Nor does the senate; the constitution specifies that the appointment must be a qualified federal officer. That isn't a question of oversight, because there is nothing to oversee: the power to make such an appointment is not conferred by the United States Constitution on any part of the United States government. The mechanism to make such an appointment simply does not exist and cannot be created without a constitutional amendment.
 
If trump looses - couldnt he just claim voter fraud in swing states with republican governeurs so the rep gov sends the number of electoral votes (instead of the voters)?
 
His handling of the situation didn't kill them, they simply killed themselves for refusing to wear a mask.

Thats not really true. He was mocking people for wearing masks, while - proven by Woodward KNOWING how dangerous the virus is. He was dividing people, and tried to make wearing masks a statement like "u wear a mask your against me". Considering that, do you really think it was entirely the peoples fault and not a bit Trumps?
 
If trump looses - couldnt he just claim voter fraud in swing states with republican governeurs so the rep gov sends the number of electoral votes (instead of the voters)?

The precedent is actually the state legislatures not the governors, and yes it appears that this is exactly the current Republican party plan.

Notable in particular the Pennsylvania Republican Party has already had discussions with the Trump administration about having the state legislature appoint a slate of electors as an alternative to the slate that (they apparently suspect) will be certified by the secretary of state (appointed by the Democrat governor) based on the vote.
 
You're cheating on your diet.
 
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