2022 Winter Olympics.

[E.man]

So is your question "What evidence do we have the the CCP is comitting genocide in Xinjiang?" That is a long answer, good starts are wikipedia, the Hong Kong thread and the Uygher Tribunal.

No its not actually. I'm well convinced of the atrocities and have been for decades.

My question goes to what motivates Americ an public oppinion against China . If Uygher oppression is the answer than I'm a little surprised at the extent of it to motivate so much.

 

[E.man]

It's on NBC. I guess I could get it with a (digital) antenna, but haven't bothered. Should get around to trying to get one set up for other stuff (NFL games). Netflix is all I need to spend for TV.

Did you find Olympics on digital tv?

I've been told it's on something there called Peacock which is a streaming service.

Plenty of coverage on FTA digital here, which is our standard tv and then also the same network has a streaming app.

 

[E.man]

Well, maybe, but from my reading of this thread no one here (except perhap E.man?) actually watches broadcast TV any more.

Maybe we have more available.

 

[Samson]

May be because it is presented in TV as an event of national interest ?

Well, maybe, but from my reading of this thread no one here (except perhap E.man?) actually watches broadcast TV any more.

Maybe we have more available.

I am not sure what you mean, but the wider variety of entertainment sources is certainly a thing, and over the pandemic many of us have widened that variety significantly.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

How does a Swede end up with thoroughly Dutch name like Van Der Poel ? He even looks a bit like Marco van Basten

There's Canadian called Bloem too, could they all be Dutchmen in disguise ?

People immigrate, either for normal reasons or they get citizenship fast-tracked so they can represent certain countries rather than the one they're from.

I haven't watched the Winter Olympics since 2006. I had no functional TV in 2010, and since the sport I really watched it for was figure skating, I'd lost track of who was around by that time.

And even if that hadn't happened, I will not watch any Olympics hosted by China due to the rampant cheating.

And if that wasn't enough, Dick Pound (one of the Canadians on the IOC) had the gall to insist that he thought it was perfectly fair that Olympic athletes be fast-tracked for the covid vaccines, over such unimportant people like medical professionals, essential workers, people with chronic health issues that puts them in the at-risk category. The athletes themselves didn't agree, but still.

 

[Snowygerry]

We just got our first medal - only the 7th ever - Winter Olympics are really not our thing

https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20220211_94840072

• 2022: Hanne Desmet - brons op 1.000 meter shorttrack
• 2018: Bart Swings - zilver op de massastart schaatsen
• 1998: Bart Veldkamp - brons op de 5.000 meter schaatsen
• 1948: Micheline Lannoy en Pierre Baugniet - goud in paarrijden kunstschaatsen
• 1948: Max Houben, Freddy Mansvelt, Jacques Mouvet en Louis-Georges Niels - zilver in viermansbob bobslee
• 1928: Robert Van Zeebroeck - brons in kunstschaatsen mannen
• 1924: René Mortiaux, Charles Mulder, Paul Van den Broeck, Victor Verschueren en Henri Willems - brons in vijfmansbob bobslee

 

[Bamspeedy]

Did you find Olympics on digital tv?

I've been told it's on something there called Peacock which is a streaming service.

Plenty of coverage on FTA digital here, which is our standard tv and then also the same network has a streaming app.

Olympics are on NBC, which is FTA (and digital). When I say 'cable', I don't mean they are pay per view, premium channels, or require subscription. You can get FTA channels with an antenna, but paying cable company to bring you those channels through cables instead of your antenna brings more reliable reception (and often better quality). I don't think it's worth the cost for how little I watch.

NBC broadcast towers from where I am is 90 miles away, so I get a second or two before it's a pixelated mess with my antenna. With cable, or if the tower was much closer, it would not be a problem. Olympics NBC Schedule today was 3 hours in afternoon, 3 hours during primetime, then several hours overnight (actually live?, the afternoon and primetime are obviously tape delay).

Peacock probably has extra coverage besides what NBC shows. Haven't checked it out, but Peacock has some content that is free and some you pay for. My suspicion is, if it's like most stuff nowadays the free stuff is mostly teasers trying to get you to buy the extra content.

 

[lymond]

It’s on NBC, Peacock, USA, CNBC and NBC Sports. Peacock apparently has everything, if one chooses to use it.

I almost exclusively use NBC Sports website or app. You can sign in via your TV Provider, if you have one. Everything is there to watch when you want to, as well as airing every individual event live., including the live channels (nbc, usa, etc). Also, a highlight stream runs constantly which use I quite a bit off hours.

 

[E.man]

Olympics are on NBC, which is FTA (and digital). When I say 'cable', I don't mean they are pay per view, premium channels, or require subscription. You can get FTA channels with an antenna, but paying cable company to bring you those channels through cables instead of your antenna brings more reliable reception (and often better quality). I don't think it's worth the cost for how little I watch.

NBC broadcast towers from where I am is 90 miles away, so I get a second or two before it's a pixelated mess with my antenna. With cable, or if the tower was much closer, it would not be a problem. Olympics NBC Schedule today was 3 hours in afternoon, 3 hours during primetime, then several hours overnight (actually live?, the afternoon and primetime are obviously tape delay).

Peacock probably has extra coverage besides what NBC shows. Haven't checked it out, but Peacock has some content that is free and some you pay for. My suspicion is, if it's like most stuff nowadays the free stuff is mostly teasers trying to get you to buy the extra content.

Thanks for that outline.

Sounds like here then. FTA with streaming.

Out of range of digital needs satellite here.

Doesn't answer my ongoing question of why americans think not watching FTA is going to acheive anything against 'China' , and why they have become so forthright about it.

 

[E.man]

It’s on NBC, Peacock, USA, CNBC and NBC Sports. Peacock apparently has everything, if one chooses to use it.

I almost exclusively use NBC Sports website or app. You can sign in via your TV Provider, if you have one. Everything is there to watch when you want to, as well as airing every individual event live., including the live channels (nbc, usa, etc). Also, a highlight stream runs constantly which use I quite a bit off hours.

'TV provider' . Now there's a term that odd to me. God I don't want to try to understand it either. Have been tearing my hair out to get a simple answer already.

 

[lymond]

FTA is “free to all”? Not sure what that has to do with it. Everything is commercially sponsored here anyway no matter how you watch it.

There’s a lot of anti-China bias here but not everyone.

I’d say it is hard to generalize on the reasons

I don’t really pay it much mind myself

 

[Bamspeedy]

USA, CNBC, and NBC sports are cable channels (not FTA, unless I'm mistaken). Usually included with 'basic" cable package, but not getting those channels with an antenna.

Streaming services that "you can sign in with your tv provider" most often means cable subscription is REQUIRED (you already paid for those channels, they are just giving you another way to view it).

 

[lymond]

'TV provider' . .

Pretty simple really. TV Provider is the company that provides access. For most it is a cable company. For me it is a streaming service (Directv Stream).

One can use your TV Provider to login to channel websites and apps, including anything you subscribe to via that provider like HBO

 

[Bamspeedy]

FTA is “free to all”?

Free-to-air services are television and radio services broadcast in clear form, allowing any person with the appropriate receiving equipment to receive the signal and view or listen to the content without requiring a subscription, other ongoing cost, or one-off fee.

You have the cost of getting an antenna, but then no monthly fee to watch TV (paying a cable or satellite provider). Choices for channels are obviously and heavily limited.

 

[E.man]

@lymond @Bamspeedy

As above FTA is Free To Air.

We never 'did ' 'cable ' so everything here was always FTA. We went all-digital and the number of channels expanded to about 50 so a 'Provider ' has been unnecessary. There is no need to have access 'provided'.
An indoor or outdoor aerial is needed. Indoor can be had for less than $50. Job done, No more to pay, nothing to be bothered about.
Advertising is on Commercial networks not on public broadcaster. (Public accounts for about a dozen channels and I think safe to say is more along the UK model).

Thus watching or not watching makes no difference because the network has already bought the rights to broadcast. No one knows if my tv is on or not. I'm not signed in to anything.

There is also streaming which is accessed through the net which most ppl have through an internet providor anyway. Mobile apps also available.

'Smart ' tv means I can surf the net directly from the tv through my net provider, including any other online subscription services like Netflix.

 

[Bamspeedy]

Moved the antenna further up on window, can now receive NBC clearly, from 90 miles away (an antenna with advertised 65 mile range). Still don't get CBS.

Public broadcasting here is boring stuff (educational, kids cartoons). Major networks, many of which are FTA, but most want movie channels, and to get those they also needed cable. Then came Netflix and others, so cable wasn't really needed anymore to get movie channels. So viewership on cable has been dropping, not just olympics but everything else too.

You're right, with an antenna, the networks don't know who's watching. With cable they do (likewise with streaming).

So, no, me watching olympics with antenna not going to change anything. Some of those 'boycotting' the olympics are backing up their views by not watching, even if it can't be proven if they watched it or not. Sure, China doesn't make money if I watch, and they don't care if I do, but if the olympics was setting viewership records, you can bet they would add it to their list of achievements (they will still call the olympics successful, but in other areas).

 

[Bamspeedy]

We went all-digital and the number of channels expanded to about 50 so a 'Provider ' has been unnecessary. There is no need to have access 'provided'.

Belgium? Wisconsin is almost 6 times the size with half the people. One tower can cover your whole country? US is more rural, much more so when cable was exploding decades ago. And back then analog tv reception was much sketchier than digital is today. In the 80-90's the 'rabbit ears' were practically a thing of the past, because most had cable, and prices weren't that bad.

With cable, 50 channels was a minimum back in the day (decades ago, after the old 13 channel dial tvs were gone), now cheaper packages come with 100-150 channels. (And the joke is "There is still nothing to watch").

But what is considered a 'cheap' package today is just unreasonable. As viewership declined, cable companies raised subscription rates of those who remained to compensate......

https://www.businessinsider.com/bru...p-shows-why-your-cable-bill-is-so-high-2013-1,

 

[Kaitzilla]

The Russians are doping again?


I enjoyed the curling match between Korea and ROC.

squeak,Squeak,SQUEAK yay!!!
It is like billiards on ice, or maybe king of the hill. With mops.

 

[Bamspeedy]

The Russians are doping again?

The figure skater? Positive test from a sample taken back on Christmas, apparently results not revealed until February after winning gold. (very poor timing, so I can understand Russian skepticism over the timing).

A drug that has not really been proven to provide an athletic advantage, but improves blood flow so theoretically could.

 

[red_elk]

The Russians are doping again?

The athlete in question outclasses all competitors (except two other Russian girls which come closer, but still were unable to compete with her).
The decision should be made in next couple of days, before women's short program.
Now the girls disappeared from social networks and being harrassed by journalists after trainings.