9 Most Wanted Civs Post BNW

[Peng Qi]

Yukon, Sibera and Australia have no civilisation history before the European colonisation; no, Inuits and Aborigins definitely are not civilizations but hunter - gatherer nations. The only nations we can put here are Canada and Australia, but I seriously doubt they are first priority civs - of course looking from game perspective and lot of other historical not Eurocentric candidates.

Speaking about Carribean, I don't know about any historical empires uniting this region and I'm skeptical about one - really - small - island - civilisations

Central Africa in terms of empires has mainly Kongolese states, Kilwa, Kanem - Bornu and in far south - Great Zimbabwe, which in my opinion should be in this series instead of Zulu empire size of Belgium and life span of few decades

Central Asia has damn lot of powerful steppe empires.

The Tatars had a proper civilization in the Siberia area, as did the Khanate of Sibir (Sibir=Siberia).

I feel about the same way you do about the Caribbean (and Yukon and Australia). I don't think anyone significant enough has ever laid claim to it who isn't already in the game under a different name.

Central Asia does have a lot of candidates. I'm surprised they didn't use any.

 

[ldvhl]

The Zulu are Southern Africa. The Colombia area is partially represented by the Inca, and Brazil is "south enough" in my opinion to represent southern South America.

You're right, I forgot about the Zulu (still haven't played much BNW). I'll disagree re: South America, but I can understand your position.

 

[Mudrac]

The Tatars had a proper civilization in the Siberia area, as did the Khanate of Sibir (Sibir=Siberia).

I feel about the same way you do about the Caribbean (and Yukon and Australia). I don't think anyone significant enough has ever laid claim to it who isn't already in the game under a different name.

Central Asia does have a lot of candidates. I'm surprised they didn't use any.

Yeah strange we still didn't see ant Central Asian civ. Maybe Kazakhstan, they have pretty nice flag colours, that could be made into pretty nice civ colours.

 

[ldvhl]

The Tatars had a proper civilization in the Siberia area, as did the Khanate of Sibir (Sibir=Siberia).

I feel about the same way you do about the Caribbean (and Yukon and Australia). I don't think anyone significant enough has ever laid claim to it who isn't already in the game under a different name.

Central Asia does have a lot of candidates. I'm surprised they didn't use any.

Pre-contact, the Taíno make for an interesting option. They also meet the requirements for inclusion in CiV (agriculture, a leader, and potential city list).

 

[Peng Qi]

Yeah strange we still didn't see ant Central Asian civ. Maybe Kazakhstan, they have pretty nice flag colours, that could be made into pretty nice civ colours.

I'd go with the Khwarezmid Empire myself with a Silk Road related ability.

 

[Mudrac]

I'd go with the Khwarezmid Empire myself with a Silk Road related ability.

Yeah, good idea. IMO Khazars could also be a pretty interesting civ.

 

[Sturmgewher88mm]

One of the greatest empires ever vs a non-empire who used to belong to Mexico but now the US. Dont sound very civ like to me.

But the major thing with the Civ series and the second thing to think about is the "what if" feeling and this allows us to play with smaller, less developed civilizations that did not stand the test of time IRL or simply did not make an significant mark on history but can be a really fun challenge to try and accomplish something with in the digital world.

You've contradicted yourself. Your first post would disqualify Iroqouis, Shoshone, and possibly Songhai. Your second post qualifies every possible civ, including the Republic of Texas.

Although I don't personally care if Texas is included, please explain why you said it shouldn't be included, based on your second post.

 

[Camikaze]

There are several reasons to include a civ in the game. Most of the posts in this thread have been completely subjective, "wish lists" from a personal perspective. Which is good feedback for the devs, but ignores a more objective evaluation. Other posts have gone into history, this civ did this or did that. Again, ignoring an objective evaluation.

I think the point many people are seeking to make is that this approach presupposes that there is some objective set of standards that can be used, or that it is desirable to use such a set of standards.

Although I do think that it's possible to come to a general agreement on what candidates best fit the notion of 'civilization', that's really one way of determining what should be in the game, and not a way that is objectively better than anyone else's way.

 

[ldvhl]

Totally agreed Camikaze. The only thing I would like to add is it would be nice if people stopped claiming that some civs don't "deserve" to be in the game. We would have a much better culture if people advocated for what they wanted to advocate for and leave others in peace.

 

[lorrydriverjr]

11 pages and nobody pitched the Boers yet? Not a first priority, but still a fascinating civilization that could be very interesting gameplay-wise, assuming they will not be the same as in Scramble for Africa.

 

[otaman1]

Well, we would have to use some poetic license. To my knowledge, there are no surviving records of what the Neanderthals called their settlements, so they are named for the present day area where they were found.

Not much of their language/culture has survived either. But that certainly doesn't mean that they are not a worthy civ. They were a very influential civ in their day, with many technological advances and a rich culture. Then the H. sapiens came and destroyed it all.

So the leader can mumble high pitched-voices? If you search High-pitched voice theory - Neanderthal - BBC science on YouTube, then you'll know what I mean.

 

[TheLohoped]

11 pages and nobody pitched the Boers yet? Not a first priority, but still a fascinating civilization that could be very interesting gameplay-wise, assuming they will not be the same as in Scramble for Africa.

Oil from Coal!!!

I think that the Boers definetely deserve a spot in Civ. Much more than Canada or Australia. I love to imagine how South Africa would look today if the Boers defeated the British in Second Boer War and occupied Cape Colony. It could become an interesting world power.

 

[jokazc]

LITHUANIA!!
And I heard Kaunas no longer will be Poland city and there will be Vilnius as a city state

 

[johnny_rudeboy]

You've contradicted yourself. Your first post would disqualify Iroqouis, Shoshone, and possibly Songhai. Your second post qualifies every possible civ, including the Republic of Texas.

Although I don't personally care if Texas is included, please explain why you said it shouldn't be included, based on your second post.

Not really. Since the Iraqouis, Shoshone and Songhai represent their people with a culture differing from other cultures, perhaps not in a unique way but enough to make it different and interesting. Texas does not. Same WASP´s as in the rest of the USA, Canada, Australia and several other European countries.

 

[lorrydriverjr]

Oil from Coal!!!

I think that the Boers definetely deserve a spot in Civ. Much more than Canada or Australia. I love to imagine how South Africa would look today if the Boers defeated the British in Second Boer War and occupied Cape Colony. It could become an interesting world power.

Absolutely, I imagine them as a very gold/military-focused civ with Paul Kruger as leader speaking Afrikaans.

They already have an epic war theme giftwrapped for the game:

Spoiler :

Link to video.

 

[Mudrac]

Totally agreed Camikaze. The only thing I would like to add is it would be nice if people stopped claiming that some civs don't "deserve" to be in the game. We would have a much better culture if people advocated for what they wanted to advocate for and leave others in peace.

No one said that some civs don't "deserve" to be in-game. But rather that some civs are more deserving than others, and have a certain kind of priority. They come first and then we start adding all kind of civs that come in mind. That's reality you gotta put up with it, because history has already been written and cannot be changed .

 

[Dralix]

Not really. Since the Iraqouis, Shoshone and Songhai represent their people with a culture differing from other cultures, perhaps not in a unique way but enough to make it different and interesting. Texas does not. Same WASP´s as in the rest of the USA, Canada, Australia and several other European countries.

Not going to comment about Texas as a civ, but I think that most Americans, Canadians, and Australians would disagree that they are the same culture.

 

[njmfff]

Huuuh? Hungary's history is much much more reacher than this "marriage" episode (being ~50 years only).

Yeah, I know, but I am talking from developer's perspective. They did Austria and obvious node to "marriage", so I am not sure will they be willing to add Kingdom of Hungary separately. Altho, they did Constantinople and Istanbul in the same game, so yeah, could be possible.

I'd like to see Hungary, because I don't remember any other game (except EU) used it as existing civ in their games.

and I'd like to see few more Asian\African civs.

 

[arik24]

Bohemia would be neat and some civ that uses the wheel-lock musket

 

[Silverman6083]

Civ Wishlist:
Canada, Australia, Argentina, Finland, Norway, Afganistan, Ireland, Papal States, Vietnam