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A Brave New World

Discussion in 'Never Ending Stories' started by EQandcivfanatic, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. Crezth

    Crezth 話說天下大勢分久必合合久必分

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    Hey, it mighta worked. I'd have settled for as low as 15 IC. But you'd have trouble communicating with them through 2000 miles of French tundra, also combined with the fact that mostly Russians live there (who only speak Russian at that). It's why I could do only so little with it.

    As for war with New England, like I said, we had an understanding. I probably would have ceded him some colony somewhere else for the privilege to punch on you some more. ;)

    Honestly? Prussia. I needed a better buffer zone. You and Prussia were close enough to unite against me and frankly I could use the help. This is considering Prussia had the only army strong enough to take me on in pitched warfare.
     
  2. Yui108

    Yui108 Deity

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    Yeah, that's what I suspected.
    One last question--What on Earth was that deal in Vietnam?
     
  3. Crezth

    Crezth 話說天下大勢分久必合合久必分

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    Ah. Vietnam was me being a greedy bastard. You came asking if you could buy land that didn't belong to me and in which I had no vested interest and offered a pretty penny. Needless to say I agreed, and told you to help yourself while I enjoyed the many millions you forked over.

    What I honestly did not expect was New England's intervention which caught me by surprise. I knew you'd hiss about it so I cooked up a quick excuse and claimed it was no longer my affair. You took the bait and were off of my case and onto his, and I kept the money. That's it.
     
  4. Tyrion

    Tyrion Hmmm.....

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    well... all i can say is.,.. at least i got wales back ;)
     
  5. Justo

    Justo Emperor

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    Excellent Mexico remains in tact with little if any border changes. Nice to see that Hawaii was brought into the Empire. It was a long term plan. :)
     
  6. EQandcivfanatic

    EQandcivfanatic Zailing Captain Retired Moderator

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    Also you got a few other islands in the Pacific, including Midway.
     
  7. Jason The King

    Jason The King Deity

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    I guess I could safely say that, if Georgia had not distracted me, Mexico was certainly next on TAP's list. :)
     
  8. Crezth

    Crezth 話說天下大勢分久必合合久必分

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    Don't even get me started on Mexico. I didn't know whether to see them as friend or foe. Deep down I harbored a desire to have a rapprochement with them, to become allies, but I was always deeply suspicious of Mexican motives. I feared they would invade Oregon, or worse, hit Texas and then New Orleans. Mexico was one of the stronger powers which had stayed sufficiently out of the picture to be underestimated.

    As I understand, however, Mexico had very few diplomatic relations with anyone.
     
  9. Anonymous2U

    Anonymous2U Deadly Serious

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    I have no deep dark secrets I just wanted to state how much fun I had playing Bavaria and to Thank EQ for this fun game.

    How did Austria get Dalmatia back? I am interested because that damn war went on for so long because of the strip of land. And France was determined that Austria would never have that land back. It seems ironic that Austria would end up in control of it again.
     
  10. Justo

    Justo Emperor

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    Mexico was planning on remaining peaceful and focusing on economic development. Politically Mexico was aiming to boost our influence in South and Central America. With Florida just about to join the Mexican sphere. I was planning on looking to boost relations with the United States of Central America to bring them into Mexico's sphere or possibly unite them into Greater Mexico. :p

    One of my goals was to ensure that California and the Northern regions remained Mexican since there would have been the gold rushes in the 1870s which would have been a huge boost to the Mexican economy and then Oil in these regions as well.

    Eventually I would have integrated Hawaii into Mexico and expanded into several Pacific Islands which EQ accounted for. :)

    Mexico had no concerns with France(in my time anyway) our main enemy was Virginia. Virginian occupation of Nicaragua was a grave concern of ours. :p

    Eventually and I'm talking 1920s or so I was looking on transforming Mexico into a Communist Nation.(Thus why I had been bringing in heaps of Socialist strife now) And looking to create a Commi sphere of influence under Mexico.:p

    And yes Mexico was incredibly strong. If given the opportunity it could have become the United States of America that many feared. :p
     
  11. bestshot9

    bestshot9 Monkey Sharpshooter

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    Sweden didn't do much, just tried to expand, but not step on anyone's toes while doing so. I think we succeeded. At the end we made a secret deal with New England to get us involved in China and get us a colony there (it looks like it worked) but that was the extent of our super secret plotting.
     
  12. Masada

    Masada Koi-san!

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    Luxembourg sided with me notice it rose alongside me the last time? Those influential Flems who might have caused a problem, were marked, secretly shot and buried in shallow graves when I rose. Besides you attacked into mixed areas with scarcely any abandon (Brussels was a mixed city).... good job on pissing off everyone.

    Irregardless the French were supplying me with weapons, I had infiltrated the French military, was about to find pet French nationalist journalists to write patently false stories to anger the French speaking public and if France reneged on its deal I was going to engineer a border incident between French troops and yours. :mischief: encouraging nationalism has a price.

    Every violent act by the Netherlands was going to end up in French papers, and I would have had an ample source of funds and weapons just across the border. You could never have held onto it, because the peaceful path was closed in the blood of innocents and patriots, and the brutal path would have had France invading you.
     
  13. Milarqui

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    This is SO unfair... :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: I had just joined the NES as the Saux Confederation (which, if I'm not mistaken, is now either the Federation of Northern Tribes (unlikely, as it's a republic) or the Kingdom of Tennessee (most likely)), and I think is a bit unfair that the NES ends just as I join it! If there is a NES' sequel of this, I want to be either of the ones before or the Empire of Mexico.
     
  14. EQandcivfanatic

    EQandcivfanatic Zailing Captain Retired Moderator

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    Milarqui, I believed you wanted to play as Andalusia. TWTUD II is now open and that nation is still available.
     
  15. HMS Vanguard

    HMS Vanguard Prince

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    Victory!!!

    Venezuela Lives!! It's awsome Constitution lives on in the hearts and minds of the Venezuelan People!!!
     
  16. Warman17

    Warman17 NES Grandpa

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    The Ottomans survived too! And without the Balkans we could now focus on being a middle eastern/Islamic power. I imagine the political powers of the Caliph slowly growing, while at the same time the empire industrialized which was already beginning before the war with Russia that cost us our Balkan holdings. I imagine better relations with Egypt after the war as both our nations began fearing further European intervention, especially after Algeria was conquered by France.

    At the turn of the century I figure I would still be a moderate power, capable of defending my homeland but unable to really influence my neighbors which were under the power of Russia, France, New England, and even Prussia. As such no power would really want to destroy me as I offered a buffer between all 4. As time went on I think I could have amassed some oil wealth and instigated Islamist revolts, perhaps creating something similar to Dar-al-Islam in TWTUD. Europe probably could have diffused this by instigating Arab revolts first and taking away my oil land with invasions into Arabia and setting up puppets there.
     
  17. Adrogans

    Adrogans Quiet Laughter...

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    Italy was funding rebellions in Northern Italy to join and unite Italy, succeeded too. After that they would focus on growing domestically and would become similar to Switzerland as they were way too late to the colonization party and can only hope to become powerful while avoiding any draining conflict.
     
  18. Angst

    Angst Rambling and inconsistent

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    X-Player's Comment: You have no idea about how pleased I am to have seen such a progress for the Danish Empire compared to Sweden. I feel like my efforts in this NES has not been done unfulfilled. My goal was to make Danish a world language, and even though I didn't succeed, I still did spread it out a lot compared to OTL Denmark. I am happy. :)
     
  19. SoldierChild

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    playing morocco was a wee bit hard took forever to research crap and all i dunno i had very lil plans when it cam to a war, was more like im going to take out as much of your navy as i could considering i had one of the strongest navies for being such a small country. I dunno i was just hoping to sit my the wayside for awhile, but knew i was going to have to deal with france at some point and lose but put up a a half way decent naval battle.

    So as for the pirating yes i did do it, yes i kept the pms between france and morocco for a reason. Just incase france tried to blame crap on me i was goin to make so that people wouldnt trust him as much yes a dirty tactic and yes frowned upon but hey they did in the real world so why not a NES.

    Nations i was scred of FRANCE thats it only one who could really destroy me in one big push, looking at navies and how you had to come in through the sea i figured i was safe for awhile, being able to hold off most naval fleets, while i increase mine and bolster defences but as soon as it would hit the land it was game for me aka no army for me
     
  20. qoou

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    Contended sigh: I have Constantinople :D... only two long-term goals left now, one of which is to blow up the world a-la Dr. Strangelove.

    I find a Korean-occupied Japan quite hilarious. An Egypt not subjugated by the Entente is somewhat disappointing, but not really that important. Virginia and the Netherlands still stand I see, but there's a time and place for everything. I'm so looking forward to commanding the new and improved Russian ultra-navy; it only took me ~30 years to go from no navy to one of the most strongest navies in the world (strongest as in my ships were invulnerable at the time, even though I had very few of them). I am also extremely pleased by Central Asia and look forward to turning it into something industrially resembling the Marzhung of Daft's experiment. I'm extremely pleased by the awesomeness of Russia right now and can only hope that commies won't come around to destroy its thriving economy.

    Russian actions in the game:
    The Venetian War was a idiotic move, but it serendipitously allowed me to modernize faster and with less troubles. Several times between the end of the Venetian War and the end of the Second Union War I was considering going against France, although fortunately I never did. During the war of the Second Union, I half-heartedly attempted to spy on both sides. Then, around the second or third year (when I found out that a Prussian attack on France would be suicide), I decided to support France and give their allies my not-very-valuable information.
    After the War of the Second Union, I was increasingly becoming convinced that an alliance with France would be to my best interests. Those years were agonizingly dull on the military front since I could make no major military moves for fear of destroying my frail economic reform. Only by the time the NES had ended, almost a full quarter of a century after my economic reforms started, was I ready for a major war. Fortunately, the economic reform was extremely useful as it bumped Russia up from a shadow of a former Great Power to an actual Great Power.
    As I started to rise through the ranks of powers, I started increasingly thinking about Pan-Slavism. In fact, my last post-Ottoman reorganization plan involved forming a Slavic Coalition between Bulgaria, Serbia, Galicia, and I. I shall miss having an arch-rival I could verbally spar with...
    Overall, I really wasn't that active diplomatically (perhaps because of my inability to back up any threats and promised with my military), and what diplomacy I did do was mostly public.

    Oh and EQ, here's what my plans for the Balkans were:

    Spoiler :

    Holy League: Russia, Moldavia, Transylvania, Bulgaria, Serbia.
    Purpose: A coalition of Orthodox countries that would be closely tied to me. In fact, I was planning to make sure the Russian Orthodox Church had no contenders by putting me in charge of churches in Bulgaria as part of the peace terms, much like I was given control over the churches in Moldavia and Transylvania.

    The Coalition of Slavs: Russia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Galicia.
    Purpose: A coalition of Slavic countries that would greatly promote Pan-Slavic nationalism in its member countries and secure me the loyalty of their people for a long time to come.

    Russian Imperial Vassalate: the Ottoman Empire, Egypt (only nominally).
    Purpose: A repressive system aimed at breaking the will of the Ottomans to become fully independent/self-sufficient, to make sure their industry is controlled by Russians, and just take advantage of them in every way possible. Unfortunately, this seems to no longer be a possibility, and therefore should not exist imo.
     

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