It all ultimately culminates with asserting power over other human beings; to impart/control their lives with your ideology or politics, whether or not they asked for it. There is no difference as I see it between religion and politics in that regard; it is all about power.
[RD] Abortion, once again
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Are you for real?
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was kinda puzzled by this, whether you shared out of irony. being an absolutely atrocious pop country thing and all
googled the lyrics so ok it's a blurb about the news somewhat through it. ok.
i'm well aware of sensationalism. the legislation pushed through is very real. the grotesque paleoconservative legislation is reported on in denmark, where the journalistic standards are better than us sensationalism. that's how it is. sorry.
it's also completely missing the point of my post, but you know that.
for the video... song is generally sympathetic (although musically awful). i don't know the guy, don't seem too bad. personally, i believe humans are good, but people are awful.
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I read the news today,oh boy
Wondered about as well. But he does write really well and he's not boring.
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For sure. They are. But we're also not half bad!
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regardless of my musical taste of the video (which is my own, and not a judgment or anything, just what i like to listen to), my view that humans are good, but people are bad is actually something i talk about a lot. maybe not here, but elsewhere. most people can be reached in person and found common ground with, most people are willing to give you a shot, and most people are self-sacrificing when the situation demands it (within reason, of course). it's rather baffling, infact, when we act out so much pain as a group. i think a big part of it is the level of abstraction that necessarily happens when considering things not in your immediate vicinity. i'm not talking about the internet here; it's much easier to relate to something with a real face, so people act like humans then, most of the time.
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The gop is intent on regulating trans people out of existence, regulating afabs bodies to the point of denying them basic bodily autonomy and banning books for being pro lgbt.
For a supposed pro liberty guy he sure is incredibly quiet about these facts
How to be pro life in Texas
www.cnn.com
Texas woman shot and killed by her boyfriend over an abortion, police say
By Melissa Alonso CNN
Texas woman shot and killed by her boyfriend over an abortion, police say | CNN
A man is suspected of shooting and killing his girlfriend after she reportedly went to another state for an abortion, Dallas police say.
www.cnn.com
Just crazy. Based on Texas law, he could have sued her and dozens of other parties.
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would (rightfully) lose on that too. though i can't imagine the legal fees in attempting a homicide defense case/failing it and then sitting in jail is preferable.
sometimes doing nothing is the best answer.
It's Texas. The private-citizen as enforcer model has not been tested too much in the courts yet, so he could have ended up getting some judgments. Luckily, it is hard to collect a judgment in Texas against a wage serf. You can't garnish wages and the other methods are clunky.
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true, it might have taken higher courts to toss penalties for non-criminal actions done in another state deemed a crime by own state. i think he would still net lose tons of money through that process and very likely the case (ultimately) too. much preferable to murder and thus less stupid, but would still be stupid from him.
Guess who is collecting and sharing abortion-related data?
Basically everyone at this point. But developer Easy Healthcare has promised to stop
In case of any lingering doubt about whether abortion and location data is being collected — and used to track — people in post-Roe America, a lawsuit and two investigations should put those doubts to rest.
On Thursday, the US Federal Trade Commission reached a settlement with Easy Healthcare, which makes fertility tracking app Premom. The deal relates to charges that the app shared sensitive personal information and health data - including pregnancy status - with third-parties, including marketing firm AppsFlyer and Google, all without users' consent.
Google is fighting its own legal battle over claims that it unlawfully collects health data, including searches related to abortion, on third-party websites that use Google technology.
Meanwhile, a Wall Street Journal report on Thursday says a Midwest group used geofencing to send targeted anti-abortion ads to mobile phones belonging to people who visited some Planned Parenthood clinics.
And internal emails show that social media monitoring firm Dataminr helped the US Marshals Service surveil abortion rights advocates by flagging protest organizers' and attendees' Twitter posts, and sharing them with the federal law enforcement agency.
The FTC settlement stems from a legal complaint [PDF] filed earlier this month against Easy Healthcare, which developed a fertility tracking app called Premom.
The app collects users' health information including dates of menstrual cycles, temperatures, pregnancy and fertility status, whether and when pregnancies started and ended, weight, progesterone and other hormone results, and pregnancy-related symptoms.
Court documents state that Premom "repeatedly" promised users that it would not share their health info with third parties, and that the data collected was only used for its own analytics or advertising.
Despite these pledges, however, the fertility tracker allegedly deceived users by disclosing sensitive and identifiable health details to AppsFlyer and Google by integrating their software development kits (SDKs) into the Premom app, and disclosing consumers' health information to these third-parties through something called "Custom App Events," which are records of user-app interactions unique to Premom.
"For example, when a user uploads a picture of an ovulation test, Defendant records the user's interaction with that feature as a Custom App Event that is shared with Google and AppsFlyer," the court documents state.
Also, instead of anonymizing these events, Premom uses specific terms to describe them in its records, the lawsuit claims.
"For example, when a user opens Premom's calendar and logs her fertility, Defendant records the Custom App Event as 'Calendar/Report/LogFertility,' it says. "And when a user logs and saves information related to her period, Defendant records the Custom App Event as 'Log period-save.' Defendant chose other descriptive titles such as 'Signup/Birth' and 'Ovulation/Static/Success.'"
Under the proposed order [PDF], Easy Healthcare will pay $200,000 and be permanently prohibited from sharing users' personal health data with third parties for advertising. The company will also be required to seek deletion of the data it has already shared, among other remedies.
Easy Healthcare maintains it does not, "and will not ever sell any information about users' health to third parties, nor do we share it for advertising purposes."
Its settlement with the FTC "is not an admission of any wrongdoing," the company said in a statement. "Rather, it is a settlement to avoid the time and expense of litigation and enables us to put this matter behind us and focus on you, our users." Make of that what you will.
Marketing firms aren't the only ones that want to get their hands on mobile users' pregnancy status.
Veritas Society, a nonprofit fund established by the organization Wisconsin Right to Life, used precise geolocation data from mobile phones to send targeted anti-abortion ads to people who visited Planned Parenthood clinics.
"Took the first pill at the clinic? It may not be too late to save your pregnancy," reads one such ad, cited by the Wall Street Journal.
An older version of Veritas Society's website brags about the success of this advertising campaign:.
The larger privacy concern here is that while these mobile device IDs are supposedly anonymous, when combined with geolocation coordinates it doesn't take too much analysis to connect the phone to a person — and that can put the individual at risk of serious harm.
A separate investigation by The Intercept, published on Monday, found that Dataminr tipped off the US Marshals Service to "dozens of protests," including abortion rights demonstrations, by mining Twitter users posts between April to June 2022 — roughly the time from when the US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked, to the formal ruling removing a constitutional right to abortion that was handed down on a Friday in June.
The Intercept reviewed 800 pages of the US Marshals' internal emails and documents, collected through a public records request, and found that "Dataminr flagged the social media posts of protest organizers, participants, and bystanders, and leveraged Dataminr's privileged access to the so-called firehose of unrestricted Twitter data to monitor constitutionally protected speech."
For example, on May 3 last year, a New York-based artist Alex Remnick tweeted about a protest planned later in the day. Dataminr passed this tweet to the Marshals, and continued sending the law enforcement agency alerts as the rally progressed — messages including "protestors block nearby streets near Foley Square" and photos of demonstrators — all collected from Twitter.
Basically everyone at this point. But developer Easy Healthcare has promised to stop
In case of any lingering doubt about whether abortion and location data is being collected — and used to track — people in post-Roe America, a lawsuit and two investigations should put those doubts to rest.
On Thursday, the US Federal Trade Commission reached a settlement with Easy Healthcare, which makes fertility tracking app Premom. The deal relates to charges that the app shared sensitive personal information and health data - including pregnancy status - with third-parties, including marketing firm AppsFlyer and Google, all without users' consent.
Google is fighting its own legal battle over claims that it unlawfully collects health data, including searches related to abortion, on third-party websites that use Google technology.
Meanwhile, a Wall Street Journal report on Thursday says a Midwest group used geofencing to send targeted anti-abortion ads to mobile phones belonging to people who visited some Planned Parenthood clinics.
And internal emails show that social media monitoring firm Dataminr helped the US Marshals Service surveil abortion rights advocates by flagging protest organizers' and attendees' Twitter posts, and sharing them with the federal law enforcement agency.
The FTC settlement stems from a legal complaint [PDF] filed earlier this month against Easy Healthcare, which developed a fertility tracking app called Premom.
The app collects users' health information including dates of menstrual cycles, temperatures, pregnancy and fertility status, whether and when pregnancies started and ended, weight, progesterone and other hormone results, and pregnancy-related symptoms.
Court documents state that Premom "repeatedly" promised users that it would not share their health info with third parties, and that the data collected was only used for its own analytics or advertising.
Despite these pledges, however, the fertility tracker allegedly deceived users by disclosing sensitive and identifiable health details to AppsFlyer and Google by integrating their software development kits (SDKs) into the Premom app, and disclosing consumers' health information to these third-parties through something called "Custom App Events," which are records of user-app interactions unique to Premom.
"For example, when a user uploads a picture of an ovulation test, Defendant records the user's interaction with that feature as a Custom App Event that is shared with Google and AppsFlyer," the court documents state.
Also, instead of anonymizing these events, Premom uses specific terms to describe them in its records, the lawsuit claims.
"For example, when a user opens Premom's calendar and logs her fertility, Defendant records the Custom App Event as 'Calendar/Report/LogFertility,' it says. "And when a user logs and saves information related to her period, Defendant records the Custom App Event as 'Log period-save.' Defendant chose other descriptive titles such as 'Signup/Birth' and 'Ovulation/Static/Success.'"
Under the proposed order [PDF], Easy Healthcare will pay $200,000 and be permanently prohibited from sharing users' personal health data with third parties for advertising. The company will also be required to seek deletion of the data it has already shared, among other remedies.
Easy Healthcare maintains it does not, "and will not ever sell any information about users' health to third parties, nor do we share it for advertising purposes."
Its settlement with the FTC "is not an admission of any wrongdoing," the company said in a statement. "Rather, it is a settlement to avoid the time and expense of litigation and enables us to put this matter behind us and focus on you, our users." Make of that what you will.
Marketing firms aren't the only ones that want to get their hands on mobile users' pregnancy status.
Veritas Society, a nonprofit fund established by the organization Wisconsin Right to Life, used precise geolocation data from mobile phones to send targeted anti-abortion ads to people who visited Planned Parenthood clinics.
"Took the first pill at the clinic? It may not be too late to save your pregnancy," reads one such ad, cited by the Wall Street Journal.
An older version of Veritas Society's website brags about the success of this advertising campaign:.
"We captured the cell phone IDs of women who visited all Planned Parenthood locations in Wisconsin along with similar locations and their associated parking areas … The Veritas Society digital campaign for Wisconsin Right to Life during 2020 served 14.3 million ad impressions across mobile devices captured at these addresses and then served ads to those devices across the women's social pages, Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat."
The larger privacy concern here is that while these mobile device IDs are supposedly anonymous, when combined with geolocation coordinates it doesn't take too much analysis to connect the phone to a person — and that can put the individual at risk of serious harm.
A separate investigation by The Intercept, published on Monday, found that Dataminr tipped off the US Marshals Service to "dozens of protests," including abortion rights demonstrations, by mining Twitter users posts between April to June 2022 — roughly the time from when the US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked, to the formal ruling removing a constitutional right to abortion that was handed down on a Friday in June.
The Intercept reviewed 800 pages of the US Marshals' internal emails and documents, collected through a public records request, and found that "Dataminr flagged the social media posts of protest organizers, participants, and bystanders, and leveraged Dataminr's privileged access to the so-called firehose of unrestricted Twitter data to monitor constitutionally protected speech."
For example, on May 3 last year, a New York-based artist Alex Remnick tweeted about a protest planned later in the day. Dataminr passed this tweet to the Marshals, and continued sending the law enforcement agency alerts as the rally progressed — messages including "protestors block nearby streets near Foley Square" and photos of demonstrators — all collected from Twitter.
The GOP is trying very hard to catch up to China in surveillance.
The surveillance is already there. It is just in the hands of private companies.
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hard-on hate for gop is a bit of a reach here
i haven't seen high level government officials make a serious push against mass surveillance (even beyond what's legal) at literally any point since the commercial internet was introduced. obama wasn't exactly chomping at the bit to pardon assange and snowden. trump didn't lift a finger for them. neither has biden.
blaming this crap solely on gop is wildly out of scope. you might rightly conclude gop is more likely to use it in context of abortion, but it's an overwhelming threat to common public looming over us during every presidency which has had any opportunity to act on it. i doubt it would be unpopular with common voters to run a platform against mass surveillance. yet not a candidate that has been near the presidency in multiple decades has done so. i wonder why..........
in fact, biden could build up a lot of good will now by doing his part in trying to destroy the surveillance apparatus. he could even energize his own base by pointing out how the tracking could be used to persecute people who get abortions, among other problems with it. but nope. like his predecessors, he's cool with it. at least enough so to leave it out of emphasis/action. don't want the lobby money or media narrative to shift...
The stories about apps tracking/reporting birth-control/abortion related activity are pretty... disturbing
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they track a lot more than that, for a long time now.
it's been quite a few years since the story of a man whose teenage daughter was mailed pregnancy related stuff. he called to complain about it, only to realize later that she was pregnant and her behavior patterns tripped her getting those ads. big tech knew with high statistical confidence, before he did. that's something approximating 10 year old tech now? somewhere in that neighborhood.
now they have phone location data, search history, shopping information, etc and can corroborate it more readily than ever. using basic internet footprint + location data, tracking people moving to get abortions is trivial. but make no mistake...that means tracking a hell of a lot of what people do is similarly trivial, and modeling anticipated future behavior isn't getting worse meanwhile.
this is one of the reasons the "chip in vaccine" conspiracy was so absurd. companies didn't need such an expensive investment into tech that probably doesn't exist at scale yet + pr nightmare. they've had all the info they'd get from that already and then some, for years.
it's been quite a few years since the story of a man whose teenage daughter was mailed pregnancy related stuff. he called to complain about it, only to realize later that she was pregnant and her behavior patterns tripped her getting those ads. big tech knew with high statistical confidence, before he did. that's something approximating 10 year old tech now? somewhere in that neighborhood.
now they have phone location data, search history, shopping information, etc and can corroborate it more readily than ever. using basic internet footprint + location data, tracking people moving to get abortions is trivial. but make no mistake...that means tracking a hell of a lot of what people do is similarly trivial, and modeling anticipated future behavior isn't getting worse meanwhile.
this is one of the reasons the "chip in vaccine" conspiracy was so absurd. companies didn't need such an expensive investment into tech that probably doesn't exist at scale yet + pr nightmare. they've had all the info they'd get from that already and then some, for years.
