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[Chukchi Husky]

I think I already pointed out Spain comes from a word in some ancient language meaning Land of Rabbits or something. So it really belongs in the 'descriptor' category, just like the United States.

It comes from Phoenician, i-shepan-ham, land of the hyraxes.

 

[Arakhor]

Isn't kind of the point of that map is that it's tracking English-language names, rather than foreign endonyms?

 

[Lohrenswald]

That doesn't make Spain mean "land of the people"

 

[Kyriakos]

Isn't kind of the point of that map is that it's tracking English-language names, rather than foreign endonyms?

So instead of Hellas-Hellenes, Greece-Greeks. Again map is wrong :/

 

[JohannaK]

Spain is the endonym as best adapted by the English people. And will you have the guts to tell me that hyraxes are people?

 

[Takhisis]

^That is one ugly map

Hey, the Hellad is actually closer to its ancient form. I'd take Bari if I could, but the Makedonian and Thracian mixobarbaroi could eventually be civilised. They already like raki, for starters.

Ok... Sweden is in category 2 cause it is named after the Swedes. Hellas isn't, cause obviously it is not named after the Hellenes, amirite.
lol and Turkey too, for that is named after a bird

Graïkia, Græcia, Greece.

Spain is the endonym as best adapted by the English people. And will you have the guts to tell me that hyraxes are people?

They eat carrots.

 

[The_J]

I think I already pointed out Spain comes from a word in some ancient language meaning Land of Rabbits or something. So it really belongs in the 'descriptor' category, just like the United States.

It comes from Phoenician, i-shepan-ham, land of the hyraxes.

That doesn't make Spain mean "land of the people"

Because nobody here clicked on the wiki link, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country-name_etymologies#S

"Island of Hyraxes", from Norman French Spagne, from the Latin Hispania, from the Punic ʾÎ-šəpānîm (אי שפנים), probably from mistaking rabbits for the African hyrax.

And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology_of_Spain#Etymology

Heracles later renounced his throne in preference for his native Greece, leaving his kingdom to his nephew, Espan, from whom the country of España (Spain) took its name.

Plus a dozen other hypotheses.
So the right answer is: Meh, we don't know, discussing is futile.

 

[Kyriakos]

"Espan"? That doesn't sound greek in the slightest.

 

[JohannaK]

The right answer is: we'll never know, but it definitely doesn't fall into that category. Not to mention that the Espan explanation, as pointed out in the very article is considered folkloric, that is traditional but unfounded and most decidedly false. All of the hypotheses fall into the descriptor category anyhow.

 

[Takhisis]

"Espan"? That doesn't sound greek in the slightest.

Maybe it was

Ἡσπάν​

?

 

[Kyriakos]

Maybe it was

Ἡσπάν​

?

Still doesn't sound greek.

Maybe it was C-span?

 

[Lohrenswald]

I found a site y'all might like

https://mapchart.net/

 

[Arakhor]

That's pretty cool.

 

[really]

 

[Arakhor]

Is that some sort of meta-joke, Really?

 

[Lohrenswald]

Is that some sort of meta-joke, Really?

this is pretty funny if you don't realise "really" is his name

 

[Takhisis]

#dontexplainthejoke

 

[Lohrenswald]

#dontexplainthejoke

stop

 

[Kyriakos]

Not as altered, just defining the peninsula of "Balkans". Originally named as peninsula of Aimos*, cause Zeus bled there while fighting Typhon

*aima=blood

 

[Arakhor]

Isn't that otherwise known as "successful EU4 Byzantium"? Clearly you should have coloured that in Tyrian purple.