Altered Maps VII: Making the World a Better Place

[gangleri2001]

Granada absence is noted.
Did they have de jure capitals then? I'm quite sure the de jure capital of Aragon is Saragossa

The capitals you've marked are the capitals of the kingdoms of Aragon and Castille respectively, not the capitals of the Crowns. The capital of the Crown of Aragon was itinerant for all its history IIRC. The first capital of the Crown of Castille was Madrid, when it was declared the capital of the whole Hispanic Crown in 1561.

As for the the de jure capital of Aragon, all its laws say is that the future kings of Aragon and/or of the Crown of Aragon must be baptized and crowned in Saragossa (a law that in many times wasn't even observed BTW), there's no law of the Kingdom of Aragon that say that the capital is Saragossa.

 

[D'Artagnan59]

Our healthcare is one of the best in the world.

For example, on average, there are more mammogram scanners in one state than there are in all of Canada. And the reason our death rate is so high is because of murder and auto accidents, nothing a doctor can possibly fix. And according to most health rankings, if there are two patients with the same disease, and you can only save one, its "better" to let them both die than to save the one (Which is what we do). Tell me that's not biased.

lolwut

 

[Cull]

Our healthcare is one of the best in the world.

For example, on average, there are more mammogram scanners in one state than there are in all of Canada. And the reason our death rate is so high is because of murder and auto accidents, nothing a doctor can possibly fix. And according to most health rankings, if there are two patients with the same disease, and you can only save one, its "better" to let them both die than to save the one (Which is what we do). Tell me that's not biased.

Lolwut

 

[Mathalamus]

Byzantium isnt numbered or named.

i could let that slide since you would have to be an idiot not to know that state, from a glance.

 

[choxorn]

Most people have already covered all the mistakes I saw, but Texcoco and Tlacopan are still 34 and 35 on the map, despite the numbering for their names being 35 and 36.

 

[sophie]

Lolwut

seconded.

 

[Lord of Elves]

Our healthcare is one of the best in the world.

For example, on average, there are more mammogram scanners in one state than there are in all of Canada. And the reason our death rate is so high is because of murder and auto accidents, nothing a doctor can possibly fix. And according to most health rankings, if there are two patients with the same disease, and you can only save one, its "better" to let them both die than to save the one (Which is what we do). Tell me that's not biased.

Was that supposed to make sense?

 

[bestrfcplayer]

Really nice map aronnax. How long did it take for you to make it??

 

[TheLastOne36]

Aronnax, your map is lacking in many Indian states, I can tell you that.

 

[TheLastOne36]

It does show Czechs in similar light because (surprise surprise) it's obviously an abstraction. Or do you believe there was a sharp transition between majority-German Sudetenland and the majority-Czech rest of Bohemia? No. Brno (Brünn) was about half-German, half-Czech, but between them there were the Jews and other nationalities. According to the map it looks like the city was fully German - probably because the colours only signify linguistic majorities.



Which is why Belgium and Switzerland both descended into civil wars in the 1920s... Oh wait

This is a division inside a larger multi-national state which would presumably have a liberal constitution and democratic procedures respecting the real division of power. I see no, I repeat, NO reason why it couldn't have worked. Such deterministic view is totally misplaced here.



Yes, because you're irritatingly over-sensitive about anything concerning Poland, Poles or Polish. Get over yourself.

Swiss of German/Italian/French/Romansche decent considered themselves Swiss.

Belgiums at the time considered themselves Wallonians/Flems of United nation of Belgium.

Your examples are completely different from the Poles/Ruthenians/Ukrainians/Serbs/Hungarians/Romanians of Austria-Hungary.

Winner, you are being completely unfair about this. Sqounk isn't being oversensitive, he is being realistic. This is like dividing Czech Republic into Bohemia and Moravia, and calling and grouping Moravians up with the Slovaks. (except worse, but that was the best example I could think of in 5 seconds. )

Spoiler :

PolarIce dominates Solera in Venezuela by 10-fold.

 

[Masada]

Aronnax, your map is lacking in many Indian states, I can tell you that.

I dunno, India doesn't look that bad to be honest.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Well it all depends entirely on how in depth you want to go.

 

[Tee Kay]

Did a bit more research, updated a couple of places, Mesoamerica, East Africa, one new Indian State that I missed out before.

Spoiler :

Where's Mutapa/Zimbabwe?

 

[TheLastOne36]

I was thinking the same, but of coarse drawing (correct) borders for Great Zimbabwe would be impossible.

 

[Tee Kay]

I was thinking the same, but of coarse drawing (correct) borders for Great Zimbabwe would be impossible.

I'd say that'd also be true for pretty much everything outside of the literate societies of Eurasia.

 

[Masada]

Well it all depends entirely on how in depth you want to go.

Dude, India is nothing special in that regard. The "Malacca Sultanate" was composed of about 15 constituent states who owed some loose allegiance to the Sultan. Northern Thailand had about two dozen independent Shan chiefs running around. Majahpahit had probably a dozen subordinate rulers: hence the use of Empire. We don't know about Champa. Pro guess it was composed of a bunch of chiefdoms who all acknowledged a King when it suited them. Etc.

I'd say that'd also be true for pretty much everything outside of the literate societies of Eurasia.

Malacca's borders are made by looking at the location of the city-states that owed allegiance to the Sultan and filling in the intervening territory. Its a fair bet that they controlled little of it in reality.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Well it all depends entirely on how in depth you want to go.

If you want to go into any depth, Europe will need revisions as well.

 

[Tee Kay]

If you want to go into any depth, Europe will need revisions as well.

That'd be fun.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Tremendous fun.

 

[aronnax]

The capitals you've marked are the capitals of the kingdoms of Aragon and Castille respectively, not the capitals of the Crowns. The capital of the Crown of Aragon was itinerant for all its history IIRC. The first capital of the Crown of Castille was Madrid, when it was declared the capital of the whole Hispanic Crown in 1561.

As for the the de jure capital of Aragon, all its laws say is that the future kings of Aragon and/or of the Crown of Aragon must be baptized and crowned in Saragossa (a law that in many times wasn't even observed BTW), there's no law of the Kingdom of Aragon that say that the capital is Saragossa.

I take note of the whole Kingdom-Crown difference in capital. But I'll just keep the capitals there as they are afterall, the de jure capitals of the kingdoms. With Saragossa, I'll just keep it that because I'm sure it is a important politically if not symbolic important city.

Byzantium isnt numbered or named.

i could let that slide since you would have to be an idiot not to know that state, from a glance.

I numbered it Math, but did you just call me an idiot?

Really nice map aronnax. How long did it take for you to make it??

3 successive Saturdays. In terms of hours, maybe some 8-12 hours researching, finding sources, drawing and naming them. Thank you for the compliment! You are the first person to give me a clear cut praise!
I think this is one of my best History maps ever since my attempt to do a 1700 map where Masada I believe said "Your SEA hurts my eyes."

It's my hobby.

Aronnax, your map is lacking in many Indian states, I can tell you that.

If I put in the details you are looking for and apply it to all the countries on earth, then the map would consist of the Ming Dynasty and a million tiny states.

I dunno, India doesn't look that bad to be honest.

Aw thanks! Second Compliment. Though I must admit that my Malwa, Eastern Ganga and Mehwa States are drawn out of some imagination and vague sources.

Where's Mutapa/Zimbabwe?

I was thinking the same, but of coarse drawing (correct) borders for Great Zimbabwe would be impossible.

I found this Portuguese Captains quote that it laid between the river Zambezi and Limpopo and this website, so I filled it in to the best of my ability.

http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/students/curriculum/m7a/activity4.php

Malacca's borders are made by looking at the location of the city-states that owed allegiance to the Sultan and filling in the intervening territory. Its a fair bet that they controlled little of it in reality.

Or that no one else opposed their claim.

If you want to go into any depth, Europe will need revisions as well.

Oh the horror... All those German States. If you guys can see clearly, I drew in the larger electorates, most of the Italian States and some Dutch places but gave up trying to dissect the mess that is the HRE.