Altered Maps VII: Making the World a Better Place

[Mathalamus]

I numbered it Math, but did you just call me an idiot?

no i did not.

 

[Tee Kay]

Less talk more maps!

A TWA ad from 1968:

The text, very crudely translated from French (read more here):

It used to take weeks to cross. These days, the old Atlantic is traversed in two times three movements! And the US is right next door! Do you want to cross it? Straightaway?

The America of 1968 has a new face. It awaits you with open arms. This year, some very interesting events will take place across the river... across the Atlantic: Mexico's Olympic Games, the HemisFair... a fabulous exhibition in San Antonio, Texas, the joyous celebrations for New Orleans' 250th anniversary, etc. etc. The United States are ready to welcome you!

We at TWA are equally ready! We offer you a range of airline holidays at prices so low they'll make your jaw drop! For example, a 15-day trip to New York, trip and hotel included for only 1.581 francs!

If you travel for business, we can also help you with information on hotels, business meetings, inter-city connections, car rentals... TWA will provide it all. And TWA is the only airline in the world to link the majority of European capitals with 39 US cities. Visit America in 1968! After all, it's just across the river. To go there, fly with the company that can do most for you: TWA. Talk to your travel agent... or directly to us.

Another from StrangeMaps, this is a nightclub map of the Harlem, sometime in the 1930s, I believe:

Spoiler size :

 

[Masada]

Aw thanks! Second Compliment. Though I must admit that my Malwa, Eastern Ganga and Mehwa States are drawn out of some imagination and vague sources.

That's standard for Indian borders.

Or that no one else opposed their claim.

It would be something like the Russian princes claiming masses of Siberian tundra. You can do it but it makes no sense.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Oh the horror... All those German States. If you guys can see clearly, I drew in the larger electorates, most of the Italian States and some Dutch places but gave up trying to dissect the mess that is the HRE.

The Irish States are worse. I think coming up with an accurate map of Ireland in any given year would be worthy of some sort of publication.

 

[Masada]

The Irish States are worse. I think coming up with an accurate map of Ireland in any given year would be worthy of some sort of publication.

It helps when you have sources. Pity me

 

[Tee Kay]

It helps when you have sources. Pity me

I remember buying a book on general SEA history in Thailand. I failed to flip through it thoroughly before buying, and discover it almost exclusively covers the colonial period, and it didn't go into that much details either.

 

[TheLastOne36]

There are also many Swahili states which could be added to the map.

 

[aronnax]

The Irish States are worse. I think coming up with an accurate map of Ireland in any given year would be worthy of some sort of publication.

Thank God the English painted Ireland a nice sturdy red.

I remember buying a book on general SEA history in Thailand. I failed to flip through it thoroughly before buying, and discover it almost exclusively covers the colonial period, and it didn't go into that much details either.

It is depressing that SEA history is so badly recorded.

There are also many Swahili states which could be added to the map.

Lastone, I'll always improve my map so that they can be more accurate, but you need to show me something so I can do them. A wiki page, a map, a name. Something more useful than "many Swahili States".

 

[Masada]

It is depressing that SEA history is so badly recorded.

Well recorded just subsequently lost. Palembang-Srivijaya had one of the largest Buddhist libraries in the world. Chinese Buddhism is indebted no end to it.

I remember buying a book on general SEA history in Thailand. I failed to flip through it thoroughly before buying, and discover it almost exclusively covers the colonial period, and it didn't go into that much details either.

Thailand is fairly well serviced. Srivijaya exists in a handful of books, some random documents and a dozen inscriptions.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Thank God the English painted Ireland a nice sturdy red.

Technically, England never held territory in Ireland. Even extending control to it's theoretical limits, what you have there is the Kingdom of Ireland, a seperate kingdom that happens to have the same Monarch.

It helps when you have sources. Pity me

You would think so, but somehow it doesn't. Mainly because the sources have a limited conception of "a border"

 

[aronnax]

Technically, England never held territory in Ireland. Even extending control to it's theoretical limits, what you have there is the Kingdom of Ireland, a seperate kingdom that happens to have the same Monarch.

On paper yes. But you cannot compare the relationship between Ireland and England like one does between England and Scotland.

Technicalities are silly. Technically the Isles of Scilly are still at war.

 

[nutnut]

A Southerner's Eye-View of the British Isles...

 

[Arakhor]

That's moderately amusing, Nutnut, but I'm not from the Southeast, so I feel obliged to oppose that map on principle

 

[sophie]

I like that Tailless:

TWA presents a new river: The Atlantic!

 

[ParkCungHee]

On paper yes. But you cannot compare the relationship between Ireland and England like one does between England and Scotland.

Well in 1412, it was a bit more then a technicality. The Kingdom of Ireland had it's own parliament, it's own armed forces, raised it's own taxes, conduct semi-foreign-relations on it's own, and was governed by native officials, with the English Monarch only dimly aware of it's functioning, and until the 17th century, would remain entirely uneffected by internal conflicts in England. I would say that in 1412 the Kingdom of Ireland had far more independence then the Kingdom of Scotland would from 1609 onward.

 

[gangleri2001]

I take note of the whole Kingdom-Crown difference in capital. But I'll just keep the capitals there as they are afterall, the de jure capitals of the kingdoms. With Saragossa, I'll just keep it that because I'm sure it is a important politically if not symbolic important city.

Sure it was a center, but so were Valencia, Barcelona and Palma (and all three were more important than Saragossa). The Kingdoms of Valencia and Mallorca had their capitals in Valencia and Palma respectively, and the "supreme ruler" of the Principality of Catalonia was the count of Barcelona. The same applies to the crown of Castille, with the capital of Leon at Leon and the capital of Castille at Burgos but no capital of the whole Crown at all. There was no such a thing as a capital in both crowns. So no, I still think that your map shouldn't show capital cities.

 

[spryllino]

De facto, the Crown of Aragon, if I understand correctly, was based mostly at Barcelona, anyway, and the Crown of Castile moved very frequently, but I understand that before it was Madrid it was Toledo more than it was anywhere else.

Great map, anyhow!

 

[bombshoo]

De facto, the Crown of Aragon, if I understand correctly, was based mostly at Barcelona, anyway, and the Crown of Castile moved very frequently, but I understand that before it was Madrid it was Toledo more than it was anywhere else.

Great map, anyhow!

I believe it was also Burgos for awhile.

 

[ZeletDude]

Spoiler :

HDI rankings.

Green being highest, while black (such as in Niger) being the lowest.

 

[Mathalamus]

i beileve that's Niger.