Altered Maps XVIII: Continuing Curious Cartography
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I can hold a conversation in French having 'studied', worked and lived in France, and French is traditionally the most studied foreign language here but there is no way one in eight of my compatriots could hold a conversation in French.
I think that must be the theoretical distribution based on what's taught in school. No way that 1/7 Germans can hold a conversation in French, but in theory that is probably roughly the amount of Germans who've had 5 years of French lessons in school.
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There has to be some number, too, who can and just don't want to. How do they get counted?
What if the Byzantine Empire was HRE-like:
I can tell you the person who made this doesn't speak Greek. The translation for Pontus is particularly funny
Many themes also don't make sense, including Macedonia, since the Byzantine theme of Macedonia was in Thrace (capital was Adrianople). Thessalonike had its own theme.
It's still a cool map, of course.
I can tell you the person who made this doesn't speak Greek. The translation for Pontus is particularly funny
Many themes also don't make sense, including Macedonia, since the Byzantine theme of Macedonia was in Thrace (capital was Adrianople). Thessalonike had its own theme.
It's still a cool map, of course.
Seems realistic, for Greece (most of the very old would be totally unable to speak any English, but average age here is 46, so
).One should always keep in mind that while they may be able to discuss, the level of using English can be bad.
90% for Netherlands does seem a bit too high, no? More so since I suppose many there would be learning German instead/not be of any functional level in use of English. I guess the "self-reported" is the crucial bit here, for virtually all those green countries.
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What universe is this?
A much better one? ^^
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Disagree! First of all, they are all still playing soccer.
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Il doit y en avoir un certain nombre qui sont capables mais ne souhaitent pas. Comment sont-ils comptés?
There has to be some number, too, who can and just don't want to. How do they get counted?
There has to be some number, too, who can and just don't want to. How do they get counted?
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Na, that seems likely.
While all the Dutch people learn English and German (and French, actually), the level of English is better because TV and cinema are not dubbed (besides children's movies). So lots of media is only available in English.
And it's rare to find someone who really cannot speak English. It does happen, but not that often.
EDIT: Rate is probably higher than Sweden or Denmark because Dutch is more related to English than the 2 others.
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I believe this is exactly what I read at some point in college years ago: these countries that have smaller media markets in their native language are going to have higher numbers of people who have at least a working grasp of English.
This is true in the opposite here in Japan: there is a huge domestic market, relatively little penetration from outside, and the percentage of people able to hold a conversation in English is much smaller than any European country.
This is true in the opposite here in Japan: there is a huge domestic market, relatively little penetration from outside, and the percentage of people able to hold a conversation in English is much smaller than any European country.
I was thinking of the old people, though! Was English that ubiquitous in the first couple of decades after ww2 there? It's why I don't find 51% unbelievably low for here.
Maybe they had official job requirements for good knowledge of English early on.
My mother does speak English, but it was relatively rare back then.
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I wonder how the number is or has changed depending on the old occupation zones. I imagine there are of course more English speakers in what became West Germany, but what about the former French occupation zone?
The number that stood out to me the most on here though is Austria. Any thoughts on why it is so high?
The number that stood out to me the most on here though is Austria. Any thoughts on why it is so high?
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