American feminity and high-pitched voices

[Quackers]

You are missing the woods from the trees here Terx. Look, the real issue with Americans is their insistence in drinking from them red plastic cups and screaming "WOOOO" all the time (even men do the "woo" thing). Come on America, sort it out.

I just love working a dog up into an excited lather. I don't care how I do it. Nor whose dog it is.

Borachio: Indiscriminate dog exciterer and latherer. It has a ring to it.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

It looks like you're associating innocent women with appliances. What's wrong with being cheerful and innocent? Does it always mean someone is stupid?

You need to stick to the case.
The better question is: Why do women feel the need to pronounce their cheerfulness by this voice? Why does their femininity require this emphasize?

They're children.

It is not a universal children thing. Not like that anyway. I literally do not know a single German girl from my school-time who used this voice. It is not just being children. More like "look how much I am a children!"
edit: Ah wrong, there was one girl. Or rather still is. But she is a bit off.

she'll do exactly what I want her to

Yep at least with the dogs I have known part was that a high voice general meant something good was happening. But the tone itself may also just get their attention.

 

[timtofly]

If one could even go higher off the scale, a dog would enjoy it even more.

 

[NovaKart]

You need to stick to the case.
The better question is: Why do women feel the need to pronounce their cheerfulness by this voice? Why does their femininity require this emphasize?

If they have this voice on their own initiative who are we to second guess it and tell them to speak another way?

 

[Terxpahseyton]

Easy there I am not telling anyone to do anything. But who are you to tell me I may not second-guess other people's initiatives?

 

[Mango Elephant]

Not to mention even among younger girls a higher pitch isn't even that pervasive. I don't know how it was in the olden days, but among my peers many girls employ a gruff accent that sort of sounds like they smoke.

 

[Tee Kay]

You Anglophones have it easy. Thai girls/women speaking Thai sound effing scary. Like they're angry all the time.

Strangely enough men sound gentler in that language. Weird. Or maybe it's just me.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

So that is the reason for the ladyboy culture. Fear of real women?

You are missing the woods from the trees here Terx. Look, the real issue with Americans is their insistence in drinking from them red plastic cups and screaming "WOOOO" all the time (even men do the "woo" thing).

Generic smug European response: That's what you do if you have no real culture.

 

[Tee Kay]

So that is the reason for the ladyboy culture. Fear of real women?

You must understand that this is a country where penis mutiliation by wives and girlfriends until recently used to be, I quote, "an epidemic" and "fashionable".

 

[Terxpahseyton]

Words fail me.

 

[Goodfella]

You must understand that this is a country where penis mutiliation by wives and girlfriends until recently used to be, I quote, "an epidemic" and "fashionable".

Someone get Quakers in here!

 

[cybrxkhan]

Concerning speaking to children in a high pitched voice, that varies from culture to culture. Some cultures people speak to babies as if they were adults. In other cultures, they might have special speaking patterns or something.

You Anglophones have it easy. Thai girls/women speaking Thai sound effing scary. Like they're angry all the time.

Strangely enough men sound gentler in that language. Weird. Or maybe it's just me.

So... Kind of like the reverse of Japanese?

You must understand that this is a country where penis mutiliation by wives and girlfriends until recently used to be, I quote, "an epidemic" and "fashionable".

I thought Vietnamese husbands had it bad.

Note to self: tell father at least mom isn't Thai.

 

[LucyDuke]

It is not a universal children thing. Not like that anyway. I literally do not know a single German girl from my school-time who used this voice. It is not just being children. More like "look how much I am a children!"
edit: Ah wrong, there was one girl. Or rather still is. But she is a bit off.

Of course. Not all children x. But if you x you are a child.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

What I meant was that this was not just a thing children do and hence was just a children thing some non-children do also.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Though in my defense voice tones are an effective way to communicate with a dog.

Of course they are - any dog trainer or other person who's raised dogs knows this. Dogs' hearing range is different from humans' hearing range, and that makes a difference in how they respond.

It's the same with cats. I could say the same words to my cats in different tones, and they will interpret them in different ways.

That's the best way that I've figured out to get my roommate's dog's attention.. I can call her name all I want sometimes, and she won't give a crap.. but as soon as I start making strange high pitched sounds, she turns her head sideways and stares at me. It's only a matter of time after that that she'll do exactly what I want her to. (which is usually to come over for a petting).

My dad did the high-pitched baby-talk thing with one of our cats when he was a tiny kitten. The kitten was male, and my grandmother had said we could keep him (he was born under my dad's bed). My dad would cuddle him and croon, "Are you a liddle tom-tat? Oh, you're such a liddle tom-tat... "

Unsurprisingly the kitten loved all this, and imprinted on the "tat" part of what my dad said. We tried naming him Tom, and he wouldn't answer to it. He wouldn't respond to Tommy either, so we ended up naming him Tomtat. He happily answered to that, and sometimes I'd also call him "'Tat." He considered both of those his name, and completely ignored any and all attempts to get him to answer to Tom or Tommy.

My grandmother considered it undignified, but the cat chose his own name, thankyouverymuch, and it came about because my dad got a case of mushiness over a cute newborn kitten.

 

[Shaihulud]

Asian girls are like that too. I think it was influence from Japan or something.

 

[Farm Boy]

Generic smug European response: That's what you do if you have no real culture.

Actually, it amuses us to no end that exuberance freaks out the stuffed shirts so much.

 

[JollyRoger]

I am talking about the unnaturally high-pitched girly voice.

They sound like MRAs when they do that.

 

[Akka]

Here is one of the cultural thingies that really struck me when I lived in the US of A: The way American girls talk. Or rather, can talk, depending on personality and occasion. But commonly enough so to constitute a solid cultural phenomena.

I am talking about the unnaturally high-pitched girly voice. A prime example is the sentence "OMG so cute". But there seems to be no end to ways / occasions it can be used.

It's funny you say that, 'cause one of the thing that I noticed a long time ago was the opposite : I feel like American girls tend to have low-pitched voices in general.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

That is funnily enough also true from my own experience, but hadn't thought of it! Same with guys. Normal American English makes for deeper voices. Good point. That may actually have something to do with the unnatural high voices.