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Antifa the Terrorist Organization

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Again, as I said before, we're obviously meaning different things here. Serial killers have not, and never will, cause any significant harm to society at large. The vast majority of people don't lay awake at night fearing they will become the victim of a serial killer. Most people don't give serial killers much thought at all, other than if they want some late night TV entertainment. You might as well say that venetian blinds are a considerable danger to society because 15 people manage to strangle themselves to death with them each year.

Whereas your fear of antifa is entirely rational and founded upon sound evidence.
 
Again, as I said before, we're obviously meaning different things here. Serial killers have not, and never will, cause any significant harm to society at large. The vast majority of people don't lay awake at night fearing they will become the victim of a serial killer. Most people don't give serial killers much thought at all, other than if they want some late night TV entertainment. You might as well say that venetian blinds are a considerable danger to society because 15 people manage to strangle themselves to death with them each year.
Naturally, you're looking at this from an American perspective. There are dozens of dead women in British Columbia who would say you're wrong, if they were still alive to say anything. They were all the victims of ONE man, who got away with his murders for a very long time, and yes, this damn well did cause people in the area the victims came from to lie awake at night, wondering what happened to their friends/loved ones, and if they'd end up being killed as well.

Robert Pickton is now in prison, and he is one of a very few people in Canada who I think actually does deserve the death penalty. But as I pointed out in the comments section of CBC.ca last week, we can't have one law for some murderers and another law for others, since there are a lot of people who were actually falsely accused and spent decades in prison.

There's a stretch of highway in British Columbia called the "Highway of Tears". So many women have been murdered along that road, and one of the theories is that many were murdered by the same person (not the aforementioned Pickton; his victims came from a different part of BC). This has gone on for decades.

This administration is openly hostile to the whole idea of taking in refugees.
As I mentioned previously in another discussion, why should they fix anything? "Canada will provide." Except in this case, we've been taking in tens of thousands of asylum seekers who don't trust Trump's government to treat them decently. It's no longer just Muslims walking over the border, it's people from many places who fly into the US, or sneak into the US via the southern border, join a bus convoy (or some other transportation method), and go to the US/Canada border... and walk across.

Yes, there are signs up at the commonest crossing sites that make it clear that they will be arrested if they step across that border. But these people don't care. They willingly give themselves up to the RCMP because of the bare chance they'll be allowed to stay.


Oh, and as far as the definition of "terrorist" goes... our former PM, Stephen Harper, has the view that anyone who is an environmentalist or supports groups who are pro-environment is automatically a terrorist. That's one reason why I've never used my real name on the CBC comment pages. I say things the Reformacons don't like to hear.
 
Fascism is an explicitly anti-liberty ideology. Fascism is the subjugation of the individual to the state. You really don't get any further from liberty than fascism. The alt-right movement isn't about anything other than taking liberty from other people. They should be fought. They should be destroyed. And if it takes terrorism to destroy fascism, so be it.

Tough talk from someone who has never seen combat or been even remotely close to a situation where you've had to take someone's life.

That's what bothers me the most about people like you. You've never experienced violence on the level you are advocating, nor have you witnessed what it does to people. You also have never participated in it, so you have no idea what it will do to you as a person. If you did know, you wouldn't be so quick to advocate for violence against others. You, and everyone like you, are the very definition of a chickenhawk. Especially since you sit here and talk about the necessity of violence, but I doubt you have the mental toughness to go out there, get your hands dirty and practice what you preach. You want blood, but you are too cowardly to go out there and spill it yourself.
 
Tough talk from someone who has never seen combat or been even remotely close to a situation where you've had to take someone's life.

That's what bothers me the most about people like you. You've never experienced violence on the level you are advocating, nor have you witnessed what it does to people. You also have never participated in it, so you have no idea what it will do to you as a person. If you did know, you wouldn't be so quick to advocate for violence against others. You, and everyone like you, are the very definition of a chickenhawk. Especially since you sit here and talk about the necessity of violence, but I doubt you have the mental toughness to go out there, get your hands dirty and practice what you preach. You want blood, but you are too cowardly to go out there and spill it yourself.

I must be quick to point out. . . you are outright defending fascism with this post. Did you mean to do that?
 
I must be quick to point out. . . you are outright defending fascism with this post.

No, I'm not. The fact that you interpreted an argument against politically motivated violence as a defense of fascism calls your mental faculties into question.

But then again, you are openly defending a terrorist organization, so I guess a little mental instability is to be expected.

Also, Cutlass is a big boy. He can respond to me on his own and defend himself. He doesn't need you to fight his battles for him or speak for him.
 
No, I'm not. The fact that you interpreted an argument against politically motivated violence as a defense of fascism calls your mental faculties into question.

But then again, you are openly defending a terrorist organization, so I guess a little mental instability is to be expected.

Also, Cutlass is a big boy. He can respond to me on his own and defend himself. He doesn't need you to fight his battles for him or speak for him.

./nod

Okay so antifa is already a terrorist organization in your mind. . .duly noted.
 
Yes. I'm just waiting for Antifa to be officially declared a terrorist organization so I can start reporting people here to the FBI.

You do that good sir.
 
After seeing what has been said in this thread:

Thank God we have the police to shut down Antifa “by any means necessary”. The police are wholeheartedly against Antifa and I am very glad that they do not let their insolence go unpunished.

#bluelivesmatter
 
After seeing what has been said in this thread:

Thank God we have the police to shut down Antifa “by any means necessary”. The police are wholeheartedly against Antifa and I am very glad that they do not let their insolence go unpunished.

#bluelivesmatter


./nod

your racism is acknowledged good sir. . .

(remember all black lives matters asks is that police consider before they shoot)
 
Moderator Action: OK enough name calling for a while. Since it's so volatile and becoming a train wreck, I'm closing this thread while we figure out what to do with it.
 
Moderator Action: This thread will not reopen. Further action will be forthcoming.

As a general note, if something is genuinely worthy of US federal attention, then don't merely talk about it as if it's a mere debating point. You hit the report button at once and then take the appropriate US legal action. Otherwise, you're being a jerk by trivialising important matters in an attempt to shut down your opposition and that of course comes with its own penalties.

Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
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