Anyone else offended?
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Don't know and never will. If it is repeated over and over (like Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party) then maybe you have something. If not, then I'll chock it up to simple error.
No. I am saying that the Obama Campaign - the one the McCain is running against, is not part of the trash talk. My bigger, and original, point is that the speech given by Rudy at the convention (and the reaction of the conventioneers) is trash. I don't recall this level of trash from the Dems during their convention, but admittadly I am biased and may not have the same perspective as you.
Last I checked, the convention was part of the campaign, not a random gathering of republicans that can say whatever they want.
sonorakitch
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You thought so?
I have several Independent friends, and while Guiliani didn't necessarily sell them on McCain, all thought it was a great speech.
We had some people over last night for dinner and watched both speeches. A couple there, both on the fence, thought Sarah's was a bit sarcastic although well liked and well delivered. And Guiliani did a great job.
~Chris
MobBoss
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Obama does not have world organizational experience. I know you worship him like a greek god, but please, lets keep in touch with reality here.
No, he just associated with felons like Tony Rezko to help him buy his house.
Are you obtuse or purposely dense? Interactions with the world means the world around him.
And how blue in the face are you going to be about Rezko, a non story, with no legs, that nobody cares about except dead enders? Rezko doesn't matter because nothing happened.
MobBoss
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Yes. It. Is.
One good example: earlier in the year when Obama continually, and purposefully, mischaracterized McCains 100 year comment.
Do you remember this? Obama didnt drop it until McCain really took him to task for it.
And I disagree. /shrug. I guess I am immune to Obamaid.
I don't recall this level of trash from the Dems during their convention, but admittadly I am biased and may not have the same perspective as you.
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Yes, it did not sell McCain to me. It gave me reasons to vote AGAINST Obama, when I am looking for reasons to vote FOR McCain.
I unfortunately have to miss McCain's speech tonight, but I hope his YouTube service puts it up there.
This has been my point about last night. Being the anti-Obama doesn't mean you're providing a reason to vote for them.
Oh, sweet lord, it was not?
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In terms of the OP. I think you need to be a little more thick-skinned. I'm sure there were speeches at the Dem convention that would've equally offended Republicans.
I never said that the Obama campaign has not talked trash at all - every political campaign known to man has to some degree or other. I said that he did not talk trash about Palin's family, which is what we were talking about.
QuoVadisNation
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Technically, Rudy just questioned the executive experience someone can get from community service. They can still laud community service without being hypocrites - unless you're the kind of person who wants to believe something else without any evidence.
signs up people to vote. i guess republicans don't like that when it goes against them.
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So you are beginning to understand that Obama was nothing more than a democratic party staffer for those years and nothing noble. Good. About six months late, but progress
Now, please explain how voter regestration campaigns (which are good, even if it is a party hack doing it) equates in any way with actively heading an executive government organization. Go.
Here is some info:
On Obama specifically:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg
On Community Organization from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizer
As I said, a Democratic party staffer. Again, please explain how that in any way equates to experiance in governing in any capacity? Sounds like he would be an excellent campagin manager though
From the Barack Obama wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Hussein_Obama
Director is an executive position - no? I don't see anything about the Democratic Party or politics either...
It looks like he didn't get into voter registration until much later:
So you are beginning to understand that Obama was nothing more than a democratic party staffer for those years and nothing noble. Good. About six months late, but progress
Now, please explain how voter regestration campaigns (which are good, even if it is a party hack doing it) equates in any way with actively heading an executive government organization. Go.
registering voters is a non partisan act. try harder.
The community organizer thing is a red herring about experience. No one is touting that as executive experience, only that Obama is in touch with the little people and is in touch with them as a candidate and a person. He has worked with all types and groups of people in that role and it's provided keen insight. Republicans know that and that's why they aren't even attempting to find their own voice. They just mock him.
On the flip side explain to me how being a mayor of a town of 8500 gives any insight to running the national government (or how her mayoral experience is indicative of good executive management?) We can do this dance all day long but the thing that is most relevant is the highest level of experience and Obama simply has more, not only being a Senator at the state and Federal level, but in being part of the process and understanding it's nuances. If you really think that Palin has more relevant experience to Washington and the Federal Government then theres no use in talking to you. End of discussion.
Just an interestingly bland choice. I thought you would have done better.
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