Are you falling asleep correctly?

Anyone on 40mg of amphetamine and a gram of caffeine a day should supplement with l-theanine. Or at any dose.
 
Anyone on 40mg of amphetamine and a gram of caffeine a day should supplement with l-theanine. Or at any dose.

..or just drink a truckload of green tea and drop the cawfefe. maybe GABA tea is best.
 
Some somewhat obvious tips for a good night's sleep:

Alcohol. Not enough to be drunk, enough to fall asleep once you hit the bed. Been working for me for 20 years (before that it was, collapse at 4am, wake up when you have to, half-doze through the day).
 
Anyone on 40mg of amphetamine and a gram of caffeine a day should supplement with l-theanine. Or at any dose.

The European Food Safety Authority EFSA advised negatively on health claims related to L-theanine and cognitive function, alleviation of psychological stress, maintenance of normal sleep, and reduction of menstrual discomfort. Therefore, health claims for L-theanine are prohibited in the European Union.

Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it! :)
 
Exercise is key. Couple hours of vigorous exercise per day and you'll have no trouble sleeping.

I need almost 8 to function best, but I hear some people live on 6.

They're liars. Possibly to themselves.

IThread count is life.
Buy maximum thread count sheets and pillows.

No. My favourite sheets at any price or thread count are Cuddledown 400 thread count sateen sheets.

Try blue light blockers, flux on comp, twilight on phone.

Twilight is kinda trash. Any iOS/Android phone from the last couple years includes automatic screen temp feature built in to the OS. As do macOS and Windows. (macOS night shift is good, but the Windows equivalent is trash, use f.lux if you're on Windows.)

I'd also suggest being careful of lighting. I use programmable white ambiance Hue Lights that go to 6500K in the morning and 2200K in the evening by my bedside.

It is in particular the blue light emitted by most electronic screens that messes with people's circadian rhythms. You can avoid this by using the blue filter feature that most devices have. What I do with my phone is I only read my ebooks on it for an hour or so before I go to bed, and I keep the ereading apps I have on night mode so the screen is black with white letters.

Phones are pretty terrible for books. Just get an ereader, they're cheap and backlight temperature automatically adjusts for time of day.
 
Anyone on 40mg of amphetamine and a gram of caffeine a day should supplement with l-theanine. Or at any dose.

The European Food Safety Authority EFSA advised negatively on health claims related to L-theanine and cognitive function, alleviation of psychological stress, maintenance of normal sleep, and reduction of menstrual discomfort. Therefore, health claims for L-theanine are prohibited in the European Union.

Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it! :)

I've taken L-theanine on caffeine and found it may have a mild effect, but slight enough that I'm not confident it's more than a placebo for me.

As for studies on supplements generally, and pronouncements by regulatory bodies, I tend to take them with the same grain of salt that I take studies or pronouncements on nutrition. Almost nothing besides "eat a moderate amount of food containing sufficient amounts of nutrients, include plenty of fruits and vegetables, and minimize processed food intake" actually replicates consistently in studies. Yet people report all sorts of large effects by changing their diets in various ways, and they are probably not totally deluding themselves, even though very few nutrition findings actually replicate consistently except the most basic stuff. Different human bodies are really different when it comes to the effects of various interventions, which is part of why pharmaceutical studies are so difficult.

Given the amounts of funding for studies on pharmaceuticals vs. supplements, and (less importantly) institutional biases in favor of pharmaceutical drugs and against supplements, I doubt most pharmaceuticals that are known to be effective in real life would be found to be effective if they had first popped up as supplements rather than being developed in an industry lab. This is not to dispute that most supplements are placebos. But some probably do work as more than placebos for some people, even when studies are inconclusive at best overall.
 
They're liars. Possibly to themselves.
So you're saying that people who say they make do with 6 hours of sleep are liars? :huh:

Thanks a lot.

In recent months I've had to break up my sleeping into two parts... 4-6 hours here, and another few later. Unless I'm exhausted from staying up for a couple of days at a stretch (something that happened several weeks ago when an extremely stressful thing happened; I was shocked to realize I hadn't slept in over 48 hours) or I take sleeping medication, an 8-hour sleep isn't something I've been able to manage for a long time now.

So here's FYI: Some of the time when I come across as angry here, it's more likely that I'm just very tired and cranky in general.
 
How is twilight "trash"? Seems exactly the same as flux

Colours are bad, performance is bad, and resource (i.e. battery) consumption is high - Android (unless rooted) doesn't have the APIs available (like a desktop OS has) for a non-system/OS-level app to accurately or efficiently control screen output. And you get random other annoying side-effects, like any screenshots being all off-colour due to the overlay being drawn on the screen.

Must be exhausting knowing it all, no wonder you need so much sleep. :ack:

The number of people claiming to be good with six hours of sleep simply is not remotely credible. It's like if every amateur basketball player you knew was claiming to have NBA all-star levels of skill.

So you're saying that people who say they make do with 6 hours of sleep are liars? :huh:

People who say they're good with six hours of sleep aren't credible.
 
I function perfectly fine on 6 hours of sleep, then I catch up on weekends. Now, I'm better off with 7-8 usually, but 6 or less is how I live.
 
I dunno, I seem to pretty naturally wake up feeling well-rested after about six and a half, the exception being if I've gotten less than that recently. Like, last night I slept for a solid eight hours but only because I slept for less than four the night before.
 
:rolleyes:

Let's see your sources for this claim. If you've already linked them somewhere, please provide that link.

http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Why-We-Sleep/Matthew-Walker/9781501144325

I function perfectly fine on 6 hours of sleep, then I catch up on weekends. Now, I'm better off with 7-8 usually, but 6 or less is how I live.

You can "function fine" with a huge daily calorie surplus too, but either is going to cause you problems eventually, and sleep is less bankable than calories.
 
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I suggest reading the book. Your local library can probably help you out. (The Calgary public library has 15 copies, fwiw.)



Don't recall.
Since you can't remember, that's not much of an inducement to read this book.
 
The number of people claiming to be good with six hours of sleep simply is not remotely credible. It's like if every amateur basketball player you knew was claiming to have NBA all-star levels of skill.
People who are claiming they don't like chocolate are ridiculous liars because Mount Everest is tall
 
I got Twilight after reading this thread. Seems pretty good to me. Can't find anything similar in the Android settings themselves.
 
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