Al Zan
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most of us do respect and treat women.Originally posted by The Yankee
I've found many a Muslim who respect and treat women as equals.
That is yet another generalization that sets back progress.
most of us do respect and treat women.Originally posted by The Yankee
I've found many a Muslim who respect and treat women as equals.
That is yet another generalization that sets back progress.
Originally posted by Al Zan
most of us do respect and treat women.
Originally posted by Pontiuth Pilate
a muslim atheist?
Why not, I'm a Jewish agnostic!
I think his point was that it is possible to be culturally Islamic [or Arabic I guess is the better term, unless he's Bangladeshi or Turkish or something like that] while still refraining from believing in the particular god attached to that culture.
EDIT: Knowing that he's French, it's far more likely that he's North African, eh? slipped my mind, sorry.
Originally posted by HannibalBarka
Yes I am North African, from Tunisia (that is why the Hannibal Barka), and I define myself as being a Muslim Atheist, culturally muslim, but I do not believe in Allah or any other God for that matter.
Originally posted by Stapel
I find that an interesting point of view! I have never even thought of defining myself christian atheist, or culturally christian.
Originally posted by HannibalBarka
Do you celebrate Chrismas, hide eggs for Passover, marry in a Church, won't change your WE days for Friday or Monday ?
Originally posted by Stapel
About the WE days: yes of course that is here by christian culture! But that doesn't make me a cultural christian, I think!
Yea but that against religoin in general, god in general, and the bible, not angainst Cristyanity as a religion; arguement against it here are arguing that christyanity has its facts of the univerce wrong, not that it is bad for society.Originally posted by bobgote
Start? that's been going on the whole time i've been here
Originally posted by Stapel
I find that an interesting point of view! I have never even thought of defining myself christian atheist, or culturally christian.
Okay, let's try a couple of real-world examples: Iran, and Saudi Arabia.Originally posted by The Yankee
Exactly. And most of them, when given the chance to speak, do not endorse the laws that demean women.
Originally posted by Mopheo
In any case, I'm wondering how you feel about the constant criticisms of Islam in this forum
Everyone celebrates christmas, they've made it nothing to do with christianity now. Who's going to turn down presents and a holiday? And I'll take Friday and Monday as a day offOriginally posted by HannibalBarka
Do you celebrate Chrismas, hide eggs for Passover, marry in a Church, won't change your WE days for Friday or Monday ?
We must be on different forumsOriginally posted by Souron
Yea but that against religoin in general, god in general, and the bible, not angainst Cristyanity as a religion; arguement against it here are arguing that christyanity has its facts of the univerce wrong, not that it is bad for society.
Seconded. this is what irritates me.Originally posted by Peri
Islam like all religions has its faults. However there is a growing tendency amongst people to make Muslims, Arabs and Terrorists synonymous. Also people wish to blame Islam for the faults of the governments of Arab countries. These sentiments are just borne from sheer ignorance.
Originally posted by FearlessLeader2
Also, can someone remind us all of where it was that those teenage Muslim girls were forced to die of smoke inhalation rather than escape the burning school because they didn't have their burkas on?
Originally posted by FearlessLeader2
Okay, let's try a couple of real-world examples: Iran, and Saudi Arabia.
Iran is, if memory serves, primarily Shi'a, whilst S.A. is mainly Sunnite. S.A. has numerous oppressive laws governing what women can and cannot do, as evidenced by the restrictions placed on US servicewomen stationed there: must wear burkas, must follow men, cannot drive or even sit in front seat of a vehicle, etc...
Do similar restrictions exist for women in Iran? I must confess that I do not have any information on the Shi'a branch of Islam.
Also, can someone remind us all of where it was that those teenage Muslim girls were forced to die of smoke inhalation rather than escape the burning school because they didn't have their burkas on?
Originally posted by FearlessLeader2
Okay, let's try a couple of real-world examples: Iran, and Saudi Arabia.
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Originally posted by FearlessLeader2
HannibalBArka-
Nice try but...
A) I'm not a Catholic, and despise the sect pretty much completely for its perversions of faith and decency,