Ask A Catholic II

[Takhisis]

Well, given that you haven't even explained either what the position is supposed to be or what it is on, plus the fact that you claim to be at once both a Protestant and a Roman Catholic, then, no…

 

[Jehoshua]

Well, given that you haven't even explained either what the position is supposed to be or what it is on, plus the fact that you claim to be at once both a Protestant and a Roman Catholic, then, no…

what he said, not to mention is is impossible to be both a catholic and a protestant. One cannot serve two masters in any manner whatsoever.

 

[GhostWriter16]

what he said, not to mention is is impossible to be both a catholic and a protestant. One cannot serve two masters in any manner whatsoever.

Actually, the two masters are God and money

(Yeah, Protestants serve God and Catholics serve money)

But on a non-totally joking note, I think Timtofly's point was that the term "catholic" was around long before the RCC. In fact, the term originally in fact referred to any and all Christians. Now, it refers particularly to Roman Catholicism and Eastern Catholicism. I think Timtofly was trying to make a philosophical point that you guys are specifically Roman Catholics, not just catholic. But that's a pointless argument.

I just call myself Evangelical Protestant and be done with it

 

[Arakhor]

God and Mammon, not money.

 

[GhostWriter16]

God and Mammon, not money.

Depends on translation

And Mammon is another word for money.

 

[timtofly]

My intuition says that the RCC is in the same position the Jewish Sanhedrin was in when Jesus was alive. I am not trying to start a debate, and hope not to keep having to ask questions in this line of thought. I just would like to see what kind of defense (more than a few sentences) that would persuade me otherwise. So I am asking, can someone humor me? Thanks.

Well, given that you haven't even explained either what the position is supposed to be or what it is on, plus the fact that you claim to be at once both a Protestant and a Roman Catholic, then, no…

To clarify: The Sanhedrin had lawers who interpreted the law so people would know exactly what they were disobeying and how to take care of the situation. In other words, they had the letter of the "law" down firm, but not the "spirit" of the law. They did not even recognize Jesus as the Son of God, but thought he was trying to "overthrow" their belief system. BTW, He did not overthrow it, He finished and completed it by dying as GOD to fulfill the law once and for all.

RCC claims to have the "spirit" and the "law" down firm, but do they? Is it time for Jesus to return and "clean house"? I am not trolling, nor being funny. To me it is serious business, that the masses of people may not be getting the "spirit" of the Church as much as they are getting the "letter" of the Church. I would say Protestants are not any better, but then no one has asked this over in their thread. I am asking it here though, to see what your answer would be. Silence is ok also, if you prefer not to answer.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

The meaning of Mammon is slightly broader than money. It usually refers to riches in general, but is thought to literally mean 'things in which one trusts."

 

[civ_king]

Actually, the two masters are God and money

(Yeah, Protestants serve God and Catholics serve money)

But on a non-totally joking note, I think Timtofly's point was that the term "catholic" was around long before the RCC. In fact, the term originally in fact referred to any and all Christians. Now, it refers particularly to Roman Catholicism and Eastern Catholicism. I think Timtofly was trying to make a philosophical point that you guys are specifically Roman Catholics, not just catholic. But that's a pointless argument.

I just call myself Evangelical Protestant and be done with it

Yes, the term Catholic did apply to Christians long before the "Roman" Catholic Church, but that is because Roman was a pejorative by Anglicans, but in reality the Catholic Church (the holy union of the Catholic Churches with the Vicar of Christ as its head) was the original use for catholic, because it is a universal Church.

Depends on translation

And Mammon is another word for money.

no, no it isn't. Mammon is rather distinct from money

To clarify: The Sanhedrin had lawers who interpreted the law so people would know exactly what they were disobeying and how to take care of the situation. In other words, they had the letter of the "law" down firm, but not the "spirit" of the law. They did not even recognize Jesus as the Son of God, but thought he was trying to "overthrow" their belief system. BTW, He did not overthrow it, He finished and completed it by dying as GOD to fulfill the law once and for all.

RCC claims to have the "spirit" and the "law" down firm, but do they? Is it time for Jesus to return and "clean house"? I am not trolling, nor being funny. To me it is serious business, that the masses of people may not be getting the "spirit" of the Church as much as they are getting the "letter" of the Church. I would say Protestants are not any better, but then no one has asked this over in their thread. I am asking it here though, to see what your answer would be. Silence is ok also, if you prefer not to answer.

The Catholic Church understands both the letter and spirit of the law, but sadly many Catholics do not

 

[Arakhor]

Mammon descends from Late Latin, then Greek and finally Aramaic, meaning material wealth or possessions, usually with a debasing element. It's not simply money.

 

[civ_king]

Mammon descends from Late Latin, then Greek and finally Aramaic, meaning material wealth or possessions, usually with a debasing element. It's not simply money.

Mammonism is love of money to the point of idolatry, Mammon is the personification of avarice.

 

[Takhisis]

Yes, but not the love of just money, it can be any material possession.

 

[timtofly]

Didn't it just say that "the love of money" is "the root of all evil"?

Spoiler :

Loving money is not evil, but can lead you toward evil. Money is not evil, but if you trust in it it will lead you toward evil.

Some people serve neither God nor mammon. Those who are luke warm.

Spoiler :

What Jehoshua said about masters is we cannot serve the pope and God at the same time I think. The pope is God on earth and Protestants believe God is in heaven, unless he wants to clearify the term master for us?

I am just hearing definitions, where is the spirit?

 

[Takhisis]

Who's said that the Pope is God on Earth?

 

[timtofly]

Would there be two masters otherwise?

 

[Takhisis]

You assume that the Pope is the opposite of God. Clearly you don't understand what Catholicism is.

 

[timtofly]

Then it also would not make sense that I am accused of not being able to serve two master?

If my master is God, who else would I assume a RCC's is?

Now if one thinks all heretics serve evil or something to that effect, I would say most RCC's would also assume themselves to be delussional now wouldn't I?

Protesatants do not serve another master than Catholics, they just differ in how they serve?

 

[civ_king]

Didn't it just say that "the love of money" is "the root of all evil"?

Spoiler :

Loving money is not evil, but can lead you toward evil. Money is not evil, but if you trust in it it will lead you toward evil.

Some people serve neither God nor mammon. Those who are luke warm.

Spoiler :

What Jehoshua said about masters is we cannot serve the pope and God at the same time I think. The pope is God on earth and Protestants believe God is in heaven, unless he wants to clearify the term master for us?

I am just hearing definitions, where is the spirit?

What the crap? Now I might not have eaten in a day or sleep, but my mind is functioning enough to recognizing this is incredibly wrong, only someone who has an extremely warped view of Catholicism would think that. The Pope is Christ's vicar on Earth, the Pope is a human, entirely human, he makes mistakes as people do, the apostles weren't perfect either

 

[timtofly]

Have you ever heard of curiosity killed the cat?

If I had buried it deeper would it have still confused you?

 

[civ_king]

Have you ever heard of curiosity killed the cat?

If I had buried it deeper would it have still confused you?

The confusing part is that it seems to have no bearing on reality

 

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How many rosaries would I need to say as penance for stealing a rosary?