Ask A Catholic II

[Holycannoli]

A catholic in the first thread posted... The Reformation was inspired by the devil to break up the RCC, and is not a good thing.
This indicates that Protestant faiths are therefore the product of Satan.

So, my question is, based on that statement, during the Schism of 1054, which faction was the product of Satan? RCC or Orthodoxy?

AH, found it...
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10435771&postcount=918
So, while he denies that he is saying other denoms are evil, he does say they are outside the Holy Spirit... So, was it a neutral force? Because you did mention the devil there Cannoli.

Can another Protestant step in? I have to go...

What? Other demons? What I said was satan is working hard to break apart the church and while there's been some success it has not succumbed. The church divided into east and west, then the protestant reformation splintered christianity, and the most recent attacks are from within.

The protestant reformation was not a good thing. Look at what we've wound up with: Evangelists asking for money on TV, people going around claiming the bible is the sole authority on everything christian, people going around with their own interpretations and claiming the same, people denying the Sacraments especially the Eucharist, and a general christian vs christian attitude.

Oddly enough, it's not catholics who have an anti-protestant attitude, but protestants who have an anti-catholic attitude. I've heard a few people so far say they've grown up with anti-catholic parents, but I don't know one catholic who ever said they grew up with anti-protestant parents. It just doesn't happen. I guess when you're comfortable knowing you're part of true, original church you don't need to attack other churches huh

It is also my belief that christianity will be reunited under the Holy See in the future, when the truth is revealed before the apocalypse. All this protestantism while damaging is ultimately temporary.

 

[civ_king]

Leo X was Pope from 1513 to his death in 1521. He is known primarily for the sale of indulgences to reconstruct St. Peter's Basilica and his challenging of Martin Luther's 95 theses.

Are you saying this was OK? Indulgences were official Church policy, not just one guys behavior...

There's an example NBAFan, of the Pope making bad calls.
I can provide more...

The problem was swines like Tetzel talking out of their arse.
Are Church policy, not were. Indulgences are horribly misunderstood.
There have been a total of four usages of ex cathedra throughout the history of the Church, not exactly common.

So, you are claiming that God is the Church? They are one and the same?

So, how do you explain doctrine that has been overturned? Such as indulgences?
Or will you just ignore that question and hope it goes away?
As you Catholics have done regarding my question about who was wrong, the RCC or the Orthodox... who was the devil's?

No, the Church is the Bride of Christ, the Pope is Jesus's vicar on earth

indulgences haven't been overturned

That split had to do with misunderstandings on both sides

…as you already know I'd win

Spoiler :

self-deprecation

The proper response is "Hey, I resemble that remark!"

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Matthew and John were.

Yes, but the gospels were not written by them.

 

[GamezRule]

Why are you a Catholic?

 

[NBAfan]

Yes, but the gospels were not written by them.

Maybe not hand written.
Let's take John for example. There are several places where the writer says he witnessed what he wrote. Now he seems to firmly believe that Jesus will judge everyone and that he is God. If it wasn't John, he'd be lying, so why would he risk offending the God he wrote about?

Why are you a Catholic?

Because I believe it to have the truth for salvation.

 

[shadowplay]

What do you think about the allegations against Fr. Corapi?

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...ces-him-on-leave-after-misconduct-accusation/

 

[civ_king]

What do you think about the allegations against Fr. Corapi?

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...ces-him-on-leave-after-misconduct-accusation/

Considering the woman physically assaulted two people and pledged to destroy Father Corapi after being fired I think she is probably lying.

 

[Maniacal]

I dunno, he looks quite devilish. I actually did the whole lean back away from the monitor eyes going wide reaction upon seeing his picture. Clearly demons are at work, quick, grab the salt.

 

[civ_king]

I dunno, he looks quite devilish. I actually did the whole lean back away from the monitor eyes going wide reaction upon seeing his picture. Clearly demons are at work, quick, grab the salt.

His life has been quite a rollercoaster

Corapi was born in Hudson, New York. In high school he was a football player and considered a career in professional sports.[citation needed] He joined the US Army, taking the oath April 16th 1967, desiring to become a Green Beret, but suffered a shoulder injury during the Special Forces Qualification Course, medically disqualifing him. He later recounted his entire team being sent over to Vietnam and later all killed in combat operations. He served the army in Heidelberg, Germany as a clerk and typist during that same era.
After his discharge, he received a Bachelor of Business Administration degree from Pace University in 1973. Corapi became a financial advisor to Tropicana in Las Vegas, then moved to Los Angeles and became a real estate agent. At the height of his "success" in California, Corapi lived in a house in Malibu, drove a Ferrari, and owned a personal yacht. During this time, he began to attend parties involving illegal drug use and sex. After being introduced to cocaine, however, he developed a substance abuse problem and his success dwindled; he sometimes spent $10,000 per week on illegal drugs. He also had several encounters with police, including a time where after a high speed police chase, he was stopped by a roadblock with enough cocaine in his trunk to get him up to forty years in prison.[citation needed] Corapi would later refer to his drug use of this time as an encounter with a demon, and his lifestyle eventually led to a mental breakdown and homelessness following a stay at a VA psychiatric hospital.

At this point, Corapi spent three years wandering the streets as a vagrant. His mother sent him a prayer card with the Hail Mary prayer and asked him to pray it once a day. He eventually changed his life, escaping homelessness and illicit sex and drugs. At this point, his mother sent him a one-way airline ticket back to New York. He then lived with his mother for some time, coming to God on June 24, 1984. He then entered the seminary, and on 26 May 1990, was ordained a deacon, by the Bishop of the Diocese of Corpus Christi, Texas.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Maybe not hand written.
Let's take John for example. There are several places where the writer says he witnessed what he wrote. Now he seems to firmly believe that Jesus will judge everyone and that he is God. If it wasn't John, he'd be lying, so why would he risk offending the God he wrote about?

The author drew from at least three sources we know of: some writings that were probably by the actual Matthew, a source for all the canonical gospels known as "Q," and the Gospel of Mark, as the other gospels also do.

 

[NBAfan]

The author drew from at least three sources we know of: some writings that were probably by the actual Matthew, a source for all the canonical gospels known as "Q," and the Gospel of Mark, as the other gospels also do.

So what are you saying?

What do you think about the allegations against Fr. Corapi?

It's just an investigation. There is also nothing illegal involved.
They really need to change the investigation protocol. Priests are the only profession that has your entire reputation ruined because they have to go public for an investigation. Do they should do it in private.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

So what are you saying?

That the author of the Gospel of Matthew, like all the other gospels, was a non-eyewitness to the events he describes. We have no way of knowing that anyone ever said or did anything the gospels say. Hell, that's true for huge parts of the Bible; much of it was written tens, if not hundreds of years after the events supposedly occurred. Arguing about "he said, she said, which all means x" is useful only from a scholarly point of view concerning the book itself, it's completely useless for determining what God supposedly wants, intends, or means. Or, indeed, if there even is a God and what his nature might be.

The Bible is best used as a rough moral outline, as a great tome of proverbs and sayings. It's pretty useless from the metaphysical standpoint.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

The protestant reformation was not a good thing.

Oddly enough, it's not catholics who have an anti-protestant attitude, but protestants who have an anti-catholic attitude.

All this protestantism while damaging is ultimately temporary.

What do you think "anti-protestant" means?

 

[Leoreth]

I'm not against Protestants, but they're against me, that's why I'm against them

 

[classical_hero]

I hvave a few questions for you about the Matthew Passage you put in the Protestant question. I have to ask this, where are the gates of hell and where are the keys to the kingdom of heaven?

 

[civ_king]

What do you think "anti-protestant" means?

Protestants believe far crazier things about Catholics than vice versa, eg the Jesuits founded Islam in a bid to make world world fall under Catholic dominion or [insert something Jack Chick said about Catholics]

I hvave a few questions for you about the Matthew Passage you put in the Protestant question. I have to ask this, where are the gates of hell and where are the keys to the kingdom of heaven?

They aren't physical things, what kind of question is that?

 

[Arakhor]

That frothing-at-the-mouth fundamentalist cartoonist is Jack Chick, not Tom Chick.

 

[Leoreth]

Protestants believe far crazier things about Catholics than vice versa, eg the Jesuits founded Islam in a bid to make world world fall under Catholic dominion or [insert something Tom Chick said about Catholics]

Strawmanning and perception bias much?

 

[civ_king]

That frothing-at-the-mouth fundamentalist cartoonist is Jack Chick, not Tom Chick.

ARGHH! Why do I keep doing this

Strawmanning and perception bias much?

I've met tons of people like that

 

[Arakhor]

To be fair, Leoreth, Jack Chick believes a hell of a lot of impossibly paranoid stuff and has spent many years writing and illustrating tracts to share his own biases.