Ask one who has been to Nirvana

[Tee Kay]

In the tradition of the ancient philosophies, the teacher never lectures, the student asks.

I applaud you on your success, but I'm pretty sure that this is not true. Such a statement is more likely part of TV and movie scripts.

In Buddhist tradition monks still require an invitation before giving sermons

It's mostly a formality but it's still done

/tangent

 

[yung.carl.jung]

Most certainly. Though good and evil in the end really just means beautiful or ugly patterns in the physical world. Patterns on all levels. Emotions are like felt patterns I would say. Just as any song is only a pattern, isn't it. And the beauty needs the ugly to shine. We all know this from our own art. Our own expierence. Our own little dramas and stories.

The separation of the picture and the observer of the picture.

The picture is lost in time. But its image is imprinted on the eye of the observer. The observer is eternal. Divine.

Yes.
Basically - when it comes to "real" world and "dream" world, we seem to have it backwards. On the other hand. A dream is also real in your head, isn't. Still, may be good to know it is just a dream, anyhow, I suppose. I certainly had dreams where this little piece of information would have been helpful.

with all that wisdom you should become a yoga-instructor or motivational speaker on YouTube. I bet new-age dullards all over the world will fall for that.

Buddhism is born out of Hinduism. Hinduism is born out of psychedelics, as are all religions on this planet.

stoned ape theory is sooooo old my man. @Birdjaguar was 100% spot on. you're recycling timothy leary surface level bs. this is the kind of stuff I thought was mindblowing when I was 16.

your take on hinduism and buddhism is bad history. soma, as @Birdjaguar said, is today mostly beliefed to be some form of ephedrine, not a psychedelic drug.

the only thing I see in your theories and enlightenment is an insane amount of hubris.

Not sure. In Germany you can just legally order LSD online, very reliable, two days and you got it, in all quantities you want. It is a legal version of LSD which your body transforms into the real deal. That already goes on since years.
But I want to stress that psychedelics alone are not a magic cure. One needs philosophical development, to prepare and to integrate the experience. And that it is not without dangers or pitfalls. It is not to be taken lightly.
It is rather unique what happened to me with them.

1P-LSD is not the same as LSD, and while it does somewhat synergyze to acid in the body, they are still meaningfully different.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

I am sad we get hung up on psychedelics like that. My previous post is a lot more central to this thread than this topic but oh well...

I do not know Timothy Leary and I don't care about him. Nor do I care what you want to label me. You are welcome to disagree.
Now, the historic psychedelic influence on religion seems to only grow bigger and more substantiated, as time goes on. And since the full scope of it seems to only surface slowly, this is hardly old news. If you know about Hinduism as well psychedelics a connection seems almost like an absolute no-brainer. Not least also because almost every dame corner on earth seems to get psychedelic religious use but not India? India of all places? Which is perhaps the most psychedelic-seeming religion I ever heard of. Yeah right.
I did not even mention or reference the stoned ape theory. (though I do find it interesting)
But it never ceases to amaze me how absolutely bend people of all sorts of walks are on not seeing psychedelics for what they actually are. Which are plainly speaking little miracles, on all fronts. Well as already mentioned science is actually growing wiser (because the data is so brutally clear), so only a matter of time.

At last "Arrogance" only is arrogance if the wish to be sth triumphs over ones ability to be sth.
And you do not even know the beginning of how I came to know the things I know. So I don't think you have any grounds for that call. Moreover, I never even chose this path and place where I am at now, nor did I wish for it. Was entirely chosen for me.

1P-LSD is not the same as LSD, and while it does somewhat synergyze to acid in the body, they are still meaningfully different.

Hm ok. 1P-LSD is already illegal though. Goes by a different name now.
I never noticed a fundamental difference, however I was also usually preoccupied with other things then getting a feel for the kind of lsd I am using.
To me it just was plain old LSD and that was it. And it did all the things lsd is supposed to do.

 

[AdamCrock]

Thanks for answering. It's always interesting to see various perspectives ? I hope You would not mind another few ? I got so many :O
Are there any "higher" beings in the universe, which we may perceive as gods ? Is universe finite ? If so are the number of "souls" finite ? If "we are all one" how come we are also individual ? Do You believe in any religion ?

 

[H4run]

Tell me your worst bad trip, have you ever encounter the infamous evil jester?

 

[Narz]

This is a fun conversation, I dont think you've reached nirvana tho but I only know my own experience so who knows

 

[amadeus]

In the simplest of terms, what separates you—here at this Nirvana state—from me?

Bearing in mind I have near-zero knowledge of Buddhist philosophy.

 

[Lexicus]

two guys, seen here achieving Nirvana:

 

[amadeus]

Being in a constant state of tranquility sounds really stressful.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I see them less as persons and more as ... beings. Strange, and wonderful, and tragically beautiful and kinda off-putting creatures on the one hand. A piece of dramatic art, really. And spirits on the other, with the potential for all the melodies and dances imaginable within them, with the spark of the divine in each of them. I can see it, shining in the very center of their eyes. If you know where to look, it will blink back at you, while the face of the person may communicate "Who, me?".
But I also reognize the devil in them. Since any good story needs a devil.
I wish they knew. Then they all could make a bight sigh of relieve. Deep from within. And whish will never leave. But I know I can not just tell them. This is kinda a weird situation. But I just go with the flow.

Have you considered this may be a symptom of mental illness of some sort rather than Nirvana?

 

[H4run]

Have you considered this may be a symptom of mental illness of some sort rather than Nirvana?

Why must everything have to be mental illness, the man can just miss-understood everything sanely. Or it must be a heck of a trip

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

However - this whole affair always is tinted by personal circumstances, so I don't propose to have obtained the ONE truth. However, I do very much claim to have obtained A fundamental and universal truth about - literally everything.

In the first sentence you seem to acknowledge your experience as being subjective. It is tinted by personal circumstances.

In your conclusion you claim to have obtained a fundamental and universal truth about literally everything. Do you mean literally everything you experience, or the actual literally everything? Because if it's the second, I'm afraid I have to call shenanigan's on that until you present some scientific evidence which you don't have. If it's the first, how do you deal with other people's claim to have found a fundamental and universal truth about - literally everything which differ from yours?

 

[amadeus]

Have you considered this may be a symptom of mental illness of some sort rather than Nirvana?

Sincere question—how would one be able to tell the difference? Would it not look like mental illness to the ordinary observer?

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Sincere question—how would one be able to tell the difference? Would it not look like mental illness to the ordinary observer?

Hence "have you considered it might be".

 

[H4run]

Sincere question—how would one be able to tell the difference? Would it not look like mental illness to the ordinary observer?

A projection perhaps?

Nothing conspire humanity more than self-projection!

 

[amadeus]

Hence "have you considered it might be".

I mean from our point of view, could we tell the difference?

A projection perhaps?

Nothing conspire humanity more than self-projection!

Sorry, I’m going to have to ask you to clarify.

Self-projection?

 

[H4run]

Sorry, I’m going to have to ask you to clarify.

Self-projection?

This is not my place to answer, even-though I know the answer (obviously) but let us remember that this is a thread where @Terxpahseyton answer all questions.

Terx bro, can you please use your divinity power and answer Amadeus' question for me?

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I mean from our point of view, could we tell the difference?

Probably not, but balance of probability would definitely indicate one option over the other

But that's not really the question that I was interested in.

 

[aelf]

There may be truth in the subjective, but can the subjective be a universal truth?

 

[H4run]

This website is almost complete, now we even have our own oracle.