Glossysushi
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Some people do this, actually. You're welcome to try.
Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread
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Glossysushi
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Bed time. Good night, folks.
It would probably be very ISTJ'ish of me to organize people accordingly to their personality type
Pouter Pigeon
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Alright, after 8 combined hours of travel plus one extra hour of reading the thread, I'll try to gather my thoughts.
Also Unvote
Activity--
Speaking only for myself, if the thread continues to be like this, I don't know if it will be possible for me to be effective as town. Amount of posts to amount of time I'll have to keep up with/catch up on those posts means it's very possible I'll end up having to vote based on merely skimming the thread, which is not acceptable. Even now, having been able to read everything attentively, many of the details from early on in the day are blurring together.
In my experience and opinion, a small number of high content posts are more valuable to town than a high volume of small posts. This initially makes me want to look at Visor, GS, and Lassie of course. The difference in activity is probably best explained by different playstyles across players and sites. I value a small number of large posts because I learned the game by playing with casual groups among whom it's reasonable to expect players to post 3-4 times during a day phase if there are no extenuating circumstances that require their direct attention. So exceptionally high volume in and of itself is not grounds for a lean. But it does make it easier to form impressions. Of the three, Lassie and Visor read as town to me, and Glossysushi is a slight scumlean. Most of the spam/fluff/filling that's inflating the thread seems to come from Sushi's prompts and Visor's responses to those prompts. Aside from tunneling Visor, I can't recall what other content GS has brought to the table except for a few general assertions about what is scum and a couple of kneejerk town reads and maybe a "this is how I play as town" post, all of which are safe enough as scum and none of which actually give me town vibes. It's very possible that I'm missing some valuable contributions, but it all kind of blurs together. The point is, either GS is a wolf, or he's town and he's making things more difficult for his teammates than they need to be.
Lassie, on the other hand, has put forward some first impression reads and other stuff which I think create more than they distract from the content of the thread.
Visor I can't talk about without mentioning the Visor/Newyn/Cass_/Cuth interaction where they all pretended to be wolves. My money's on at least one of them being maf, because one of them has to be, right?
I don't think it's Visor because IIRC, he was the initiator of the joke and kind of prompted other people into it, which I interpreted as a clever way to get reactions early on. Cuth was the first to break character, which feels a little flinchy to me. I also literally always suspect Cuth at one point or another though (I kept wanting to vote for him in a recent GitP game before remembering he was the host
) so I don't really trust my early reads on him. Newyn and Cass are null reads at this point, but if it's not Cuth, then maybe it;s one of them. Gut says Cass over Newyn.
Nothing else so far gives me any significant impression one way or the other. Or maybe it did, but if so it got lost in my sleepy brain and dissolved. So that's all my thoughts on everything so far, for now. Sorry for the wall of text.
TL;DR: FoS on Cuth and Glossysushi, town lead on Visor and Lassie
Vote:Glossysushi for the time being.
Also Unvote
Activity--
Speaking only for myself, if the thread continues to be like this, I don't know if it will be possible for me to be effective as town. Amount of posts to amount of time I'll have to keep up with/catch up on those posts means it's very possible I'll end up having to vote based on merely skimming the thread, which is not acceptable. Even now, having been able to read everything attentively, many of the details from early on in the day are blurring together.
In my experience and opinion, a small number of high content posts are more valuable to town than a high volume of small posts. This initially makes me want to look at Visor, GS, and Lassie of course. The difference in activity is probably best explained by different playstyles across players and sites. I value a small number of large posts because I learned the game by playing with casual groups among whom it's reasonable to expect players to post 3-4 times during a day phase if there are no extenuating circumstances that require their direct attention. So exceptionally high volume in and of itself is not grounds for a lean. But it does make it easier to form impressions. Of the three, Lassie and Visor read as town to me, and Glossysushi is a slight scumlean. Most of the spam/fluff/filling that's inflating the thread seems to come from Sushi's prompts and Visor's responses to those prompts. Aside from tunneling Visor, I can't recall what other content GS has brought to the table except for a few general assertions about what is scum and a couple of kneejerk town reads and maybe a "this is how I play as town" post, all of which are safe enough as scum and none of which actually give me town vibes. It's very possible that I'm missing some valuable contributions, but it all kind of blurs together. The point is, either GS is a wolf, or he's town and he's making things more difficult for his teammates than they need to be.
Lassie, on the other hand, has put forward some first impression reads and other stuff which I think create more than they distract from the content of the thread.
Visor I can't talk about without mentioning the Visor/Newyn/Cass_/Cuth interaction where they all pretended to be wolves. My money's on at least one of them being maf, because one of them has to be, right?
I don't think it's Visor because IIRC, he was the initiator of the joke and kind of prompted other people into it, which I interpreted as a clever way to get reactions early on. Cuth was the first to break character, which feels a little flinchy to me. I also literally always suspect Cuth at one point or another though (I kept wanting to vote for him in a recent GitP game before remembering he was the host
) so I don't really trust my early reads on him. Newyn and Cass are null reads at this point, but if it's not Cuth, then maybe it;s one of them. Gut says Cass over Newyn.Nothing else so far gives me any significant impression one way or the other. Or maybe it did, but if so it got lost in my sleepy brain and dissolved. So that's all my thoughts on everything so far, for now. Sorry for the wall of text.
TL;DR: FoS on Cuth and Glossysushi, town lead on Visor and Lassie
Vote:Glossysushi for the time being.
Anyway, after reading 16+ pages of fluff, I think that is too much.
I will now seriously vote: Visorslash. For two reasons. First, he is generating too much noise. I am not against activity, but such activity is not helpful. Lassie, you are second in the line.
Second (and it is reason why I choose Visor from among high posters), it is not typical Visor style. I dont know what is happening to him.
I will now seriously vote: Visorslash. For two reasons. First, he is generating too much noise. I am not against activity, but such activity is not helpful. Lassie, you are second in the line.
Second (and it is reason why I choose Visor from among high posters), it is not typical Visor style. I dont know what is happening to him.
Visorslash
Deity
You have been wrong on me basically every game lately.
Al Sipsclar
Prince
Wow, 17 pages already. Is Majiffy back?
Anyhow, until I have a chance to read the thread, vote: Kenning.
Anyhow, until I have a chance to read the thread, vote: Kenning.
"Come join my game" Pizza says.
"Will be low activity" Pizza says.
*bangs head against wall*
I have read through the thread really quickly, but I have to go to work now and won't be able to compose any of my thoughts until I get home today. I'll see you guys then.
"Will be low activity" Pizza says.
*bangs head against wall*
I have read through the thread really quickly, but I have to go to work now and won't be able to compose any of my thoughts until I get home today. I'll see you guys then.
even if so, it does not mean that I am wrong again.
and even if I am wrong again, it does not invalidate my first argument.
Visorslash
Deity
Your first argument comes from such an inherently flawed position I'm not going to bother debating it.
If you are consistently wrong on me, it might be a problem with your reads, and certainly something you will need to adjust in the future.
Lohrenswald
世界的 bottom ranked physicist
Regarding all the talk about day 1 reads:
Being tossed into the situation where we have to lynch someone (day 1), is problematic, because there is nothing that has happened to go on, so you can't really make any good case. But this also means there's no real reason to post, since nothing has led to any suspicion. So people aren't left with any option but to make "useless" posts, but then might as well make them entertaining and funny.
From there talk about meta gradually arises, though I think that's weaker than analysing night phases.
So I've been thinking that if I ever were to host a game I would begin the game with a night phase rather than a day one.
Speaking of this game though I'm not sure if the new guys are genuinely experiencing a "culture shock" or if it's a sort of cover.
Being tossed into the situation where we have to lynch someone (day 1), is problematic, because there is nothing that has happened to go on, so you can't really make any good case. But this also means there's no real reason to post, since nothing has led to any suspicion. So people aren't left with any option but to make "useless" posts, but then might as well make them entertaining and funny.
From there talk about meta gradually arises, though I think that's weaker than analysing night phases.
So I've been thinking that if I ever were to host a game I would begin the game with a night phase rather than a day one.
Speaking of this game though I'm not sure if the new guys are genuinely experiencing a "culture shock" or if it's a sort of cover.
Al Sipsclar
Prince
On page 7 now. I have a scumtell for Visor. When he jokes he's scum - he is.
Vote: Visorslash
Vote: Visorslash
Visorslash
Deity
Visorslash
Deity
Tally:
7 Visor (Cuth, Newyn, KingMorgan, GlossySushi, landlubber, Jarrema, Al Sips)
3 Glossy (Visor, Takhisis, Pouter)
2 Lassie (Lohrens, Cass)
2 Edse (Backwards, choxorn)
2 Arakhor (Kennigit, Xym)
1 Murska (Lassie)
1 Zack (edse)
1 Choxorn (Murska)
Probably mistakes in there somewhere.
7 Visor (Cuth, Newyn, KingMorgan, GlossySushi, landlubber, Jarrema, Al Sips)
3 Glossy (Visor, Takhisis, Pouter)
2 Lassie (Lohrens, Cass)
2 Edse (Backwards, choxorn)
2 Arakhor (Kennigit, Xym)
1 Murska (Lassie)
1 Zack (edse)
1 Choxorn (Murska)
Probably mistakes in there somewhere.
edse
King
About 80% probability I would say.
Time for some better music:
Spoiler :
A lot of information is good, but at this rate we just skim through it which doesn't help much.
