Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread

Sooo.

1) There are more than 3 Mafia. 5/6 should be a safe estimate. Can you give more than 3 scum reads?

2) No, I wouldn't. When I asked you why you were voting Lassie, you said it didn't have anything to do with him being scum, but you didn't like his attitude. You said that he would be as good of a lynch as anyone else. This is why I was asking you if that was a scum claim....lol.

Only now when pressured do you say you think he's scum, in your top three (or only three? Not sure).

3) If you realize that, then slow down and explain your thought process.

No I can't identify more mafia. It's like you, Lassie and Visorslash is up to something, and that could be being mafia for all I know. The only other read I have is that xym is town because I always assume he's innocent lol

there's not much more to it really. I can't really make much from what people say, but you three are the ones who by far stick out the most.

I didn't say I voted for Lassie (rather, didn't change vote), that that didn't have anything to do with him being mafia (stupid sentence, but point comes across I hope).
Like there's some way you're trying to read my actions that doesn't like factor into my thought process or something.

like, why would I vote against lassie. Why not? He's acted oddly I think. Nobody seems more like mafia than him

so I'm not sure if I understand what you want?

also you made three "points" in that post but in a way that doesn't make sense to me. It's not like a list, it would have read much better if the 1) 2) and 3) wasn't there
 
I believe in his diceroll story

other than that I'm not sure. I sort of remember him keeping sort of low profile and making various excuses when he has been mafia (NSP3 I guess is what I'm remembering) but too me it doesn't seem like what he's said so far makes him swing either way, so to say

like Visorslash says Arakhor is super mafia-like but I don't see it
 
I think Arakhor is reminding me of NSP where i found him pingy?

but i will have to look at other games I've played with him
 
You now say your vote stays on KingMorgan because he flinched, but I recall you repeatedly insisting that it was random without any further justification. Maybe I missed where you gave a legitimate reason for your vote, in which case can you link it?

It was more that I've caught so much flak for that single vote that given KM also reacted strangely to it, I thought it might be worse to change it. Clearly, that was a bad decision and that's the last time I random-vote! :blush: Vote: Lassie.

I don't know if you're just trying to get people to react to you the same way they did Lassie ("frustrated with attention, ergo town"), but you're being melodramatic. ... How come you didn't make such a big deal about any other case that gained traction? Do you think they were all legitimate claims with a solid foundation?

Your case was actually fairly reasonable, compared to all the stupid ones earlier, but it's somewhat harder to maintain one's composure when the votes are piling up. Given that I've received criticism this game for reacting too calmly to accusations of guilt, I thought I'd actually type what I was thinking, rather than filtering it behind #BritishReserve.

Instead of lashing out at people voting you, make a convincing argument that there's someone better to vote for. Because right now, the case against you seems a lot stronger than anything else out there.

If I had a convincing argument at the time I wrote that post, I'd have been rubbing it in people's faces. As you've already noted, if I think I'm right, I let people know about it.

That was when we lynched you and visorscum had been converted the night before

I would say that that was my finest work that game, but it was almost my only work that game!

Why do you think people listen to visor? I dont. Address why you think it is so important to be so conservative this early.

I assumed that people do listen to Visor, as he's steered the town game more than once. As for why I was being conservative, there are three main reasons: the ridiculous amount of posts earlier on, the fact that I have a useful town power (which I would have liked to have been able to use) and the fact that I really haven't been up to much since the weekend. Anything else, I'm going to ascribe to a chronic misreading of the situation.
 
So I went for an optimistic attempt at keeping total score on all players, based on what impression I get from each posts. But I'm at page 20 now and I just remembered that I also have a life :D

I originally had in mind for it to be a wolf % equity, starting at 25 - but I don't think the numbers as they ended up, really reflects that. But just to clarify, the higher the number, the worse(the higher chance of being scum)

Keep in mind that many players barely wrote anything at the first 20 pages, so obviously this isn't a complete read list, but still something that I believe is worth adding here, as I feel these reads may be made more accurately than on just reading through with a few notes.

Started to note post# and point movement on page 6, so some points from the first pages are not "documented", which can leave some "shadow" points

al sipsclar 24,5 -0,5#337(somehow I like this post a little now, the mention of him being on a specific page)
arakhor 26 +1#126
autolycus 25
backwards logic 25
bsmith 25
cass_ 19 -1#120
choxorn 28,5 +1#129 +0,5#200 +0,5#218 +0,5#299
cuthilius 29,5 +1#139 +2#151 +1#158 -0,5#163 +1#371
edse 26
glossysushi 20 -1#132 -0,5#138 -0,5#181 -0,5#183 +0,5#186 +1#204 -1#233 -0,5#237 -1#241 +1#260(pocketing gut feel lol) -0,5#287 -1#348 -0,5#364
golden1knight 25
jarrema 22,5 +0,5#326 -1#329 -1#355 -0,5#359 -0,5#370
kennigit 20,5 -1#118 -1#127 -1,5#242 -1#256
kingmorgan 26 +1#374
landlubber 26 +1#122 #283(not giving points in either direction, but if Visor is scum, this could be slight TMI for him to pop in say just that)
legato endless 25
lohrenswald 20 -1#185 +0,5#194 -0,5#202 -1#336
mat93 25 -0,5#259 +1#271 +0,5#286 -0,5#344 -0,5#373
murska 24 -1#331
newyn 25
pouter pigeon 22,5 -1,5#325
sooh 21,5 -1#333
takhisis 25 -1,5#198 +1#257 +0,5#314
visorslash 34,5 +1#125 -0,5#133 +0,5#150 -0,5#168 +1#170+#171+#173+#179 +8#210+#214(!!!see#141 - he should had known that already) -0,5#250 +0,5#285 +0,5#315(feels like faked paranoia) +0,5#342
xym 28 +3#272("pressure vote" lol)
zack 21 -0,5#222 -0,5#238 -0,5#243 -0,5#247+#248 -1#253

Glossy+Sushi != W/W
Landlubber+Visor possible W/W based on #283-#307
Cuth+Visor it's mostly a gut feel, but I could see them being W/W based on a few posts, like Cuth's #380

These points are all based on individual posts and what impressions they have given me. Surprisingly Visorslash looks really bad based on my impressions, especially because of 2 posts, which are #214 + #141. It may seem a bit over the top to give it that many + points towards scum, but I really think that is super odd.

Look at them:

#141:
nah this is lenore afaict
This is comment to Cuth, that he thinks Glossy is Lenore(who it in fact is). They proceed to have a good amount of interactions, and Glossy has not corrected Visor in thinking that she is who she is - so obviously he has no reason not to believe it isn't her(since if it wasn't Lenore, she would had most likely had corrected him at the time he said it).

Yet he writes these posts, #210+#214, when Glossy talks about knowing about some of his games:
Alright, GS, who are ya?

What past games have ya been linked?

+

Suddenly he sounds like he's first realizing that she is Lenore, although he sound fairly knowing of it in #141.
Well if you are Lenore it makes sense how you know some things.

What games have you been linked?

Just to prove my point about it being weird, Lenore did also notice it and had same thought as me, that he should already had known that it was her:
I thought you knew this? [emoji14]

Didn't you say my name before?

And why is it so scummy? If he is pretending to not know who she is, while forgetting that he has already expressed knowledge of this, that is a huge scum tell, imo. There would be no reason as town for him to fake not knowing who she is - and as I read those posts, he should had known it at the point he is suddenly asking her.

Surely there will be someone or many who will disagree.

So mainly I'd like to see a lynch of either Visorslash or Cuthalion.

I believe there's a good chance of scums in each one of them, and I could see them as likely scum partners based on some posts too.

Also, Visor has been trending down for me, here at the later part of the game. He has given some bad responses on questions for him.

So vote Visorslash, and I hope to see Cuth as counterwagon
I wouldn't cry if Xym, choxorn or KingMorgan got lynched either, but not feeling as convinced about them as with Visor and Cuth.
 
I thought I might've been wrong. You should really find that scummy, considering you used the same name that another person very often uses.
 
I thought I might've been wrong. You should really find that scummy, considering you used the same name that another person very often uses.

I can't really see how what I did is connected with that. Also, even if I'm wrong on that part, you are still towards scummy based on points(you'd be on 26,5 then), while I also feel you have been trending now later in the game(long past page 20), based on your response to some of my questions to you(felt a bit unnatural for you to be "whiny" when I simply asked for your top 3 scum and top 3 town, at some point). For D1, this is where I'm at, and I feel good on these reads.
 
You get fixated on such trivial stuff.

I've had a correct vote on D1 7/11 of my town games on MU(non-turbos), so while I may not be correct every time, I still feel confident in listening to myself more than others.

You can do your own reads, if you disagree.
 
I've had a correct vote on D1 7/11 of my town games on MU(non-turbos), so while I may not be correct every time, I still feel confident in listening to myself more than others.

You can do your own reads, if you disagree.
I don't think you're town so I don't care about your town record. Not that I would care anyway.

glossy posting 200 times - lock town
me posting 200 times - not lock town

lol

ok

:lol:
 
glossy posting 200 times - lock town
me posting 200 times - not lock town

lol

ok

Glossy isn't exactly "lock town"(even though I used that term), but yeah, she looks very good from what I can tell right now, and this new analysis didn't change that. And main reason I've had you heavily towards town, is that you have seemed highly active and somewhat solvy - but on this analysis, your posts wasn't very convincing for me, and I also got reminded of the amount of fluff posts you have. And from what impression I got, you're a high poster in both alignments. So while that usually is a big plus in my book, I'd say it's null in this case on you.
 
I dont think so.

Or rather, it depends. (on number of town-aligned power roles).

I am sure Pizza hosted games of this size with 3 mafia players (and I am not sure if there wasnt game of this size with only 2 mafia). Therefore, I would not expect more than 4
I'm not going to WIFOM over the number... But what?
 
I don't have a lot of time today, as I'm at work.



Charmander is cute ^.^



The pressure is normal for you, but I don't know, I remember usually seeing you with a wider set of targets to pressure (esp through questions and statements) rather than this hopping around and the assertions that x, y or z are mafia; lynch them!

It's looking rather strange to me.
But, since I last got to read the thread you've listed some mafia leans. Sushi, Edse. (I forgot the others) Have they changed? Do you have any others?

If anything, one thing that's not sitting well with me is you seem to be tunneling one person at a time, but then I don't think I've played a game with you in months. Is this sort of thing more normal for Cuth?



Unvote; Vote: Arakhor
This seems like a really kneejerk reaction and for little.
Have you had time to catch up yet?

I don't actually see the random vote as a mafia or town tell. I'd think considering the general vibe then from a lot of people that were posting at the time were that they (I think me to) were overwhelmed then it's fine.



It was explained earlier, but one can also roll two different coloured D10s and designate one as the 10s die.

Xym, I really like the points that you made about Cuth and Arak. Would you be willing to vote Cuth?
 
No I can't identify more mafia. It's like you, Lassie and Visorslash is up to something, and that could be being mafia for all I know. The only other read I have is that xym is town because I always assume he's innocent lol

there's not much more to it really. I can't really make much from what people say, but you three are the ones who by far stick out the most.

I didn't say I voted for Lassie (rather, didn't change vote), that that didn't have anything to do with him being mafia (stupid sentence, but point comes across I hope).
Like there's some way you're trying to read my actions that doesn't like factor into my thought process or something.

like, why would I vote against lassie. Why not? He's acted oddly I think. Nobody seems more like mafia than him

so I'm not sure if I understand what you want?

also you made three "points" in that post but in a way that doesn't make sense to me. It's not like a list, it would have read much better if the 1) 2) and 3) wasn't there

Us being up to something...
That could be being Mafia for all I know...

So you can't give anything more solid than this? Can anyone tell me if this behavior is normal for Lohrenswald?

But I do agree with your Xym read.

The numbering was so that I could reply to the bits of your post that I separated as 1), 2), 3), and 4.
*addressed specific person
 
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