Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread

I lean choxorn town because i refuse to believe Cuthillius, glossy, and al sipsclar are all town and I believe they were on chinese fire drill on choxorn end day 1

I doubt they were gungho enough to encourage a CFD on another wolf, if choxorn is a wolf
 
I lean choxorn town because i refuse to believe Cuthillius, glossy, and al sipsclar are all town and I believe they were on chinese fire drill on choxorn end day 1

I doubt they were gungho enough to encourage a CFD on another wolf, if choxorn is a wolf

The attempt at Choxorn CFD happened after Arakhor claimed PR and when the lynch was coming down to Arakhor/Lassie. If Choxorn is Town, what would have been the point of Scum CFDing from one Town to another? Especially away from a claimed PR?
 
This vote is bad, imo.

I've updated my reads. My problem is that I'm reading most as town, so I sorted the list in the order of relative towness.

Town:
Newyn-enhanced Kennigit - newyn wanted to lynch lassie for attitude ,Kennigit misunderstanding glossy's timeout and arakhor's role seem towny
Glossysushi - for the effort
Zack - tone and thread presence
Cass_ - tone, early efforts

Slight Town:
Cuthillius - (only because of the CFD D1, scum didn't have to do it), though last vote on Kennigit is bad
Xym.KingMorgan - Xym seemed similarly frustrated in Jarrema's Sissy Heros game, where he was town

Neutral:
Lohrenswald - seems usual Lohrens
BSmith1068 - attempts at analyzing Arakhor's lynch
Backwards Logic - liked his posts, though he's cunning bugger
Legato Endless - liked the tone, explaining cuth and murska meta
choxorn - lynched Visor by calling PIS in clearing townies and his push on BL, lynched Arakhor for his hesitation in unvoting
Murska - pushed to lynch Arakhor, keeps saying he's town, but says he's not concerned about looking towny

Slight Scum:
landlubber - his interaction with Zack seemed fairly v/v, tunneling on Lassie
edse - for the firs time produced a colored reads list on D1

Unresolved:
Autolycus

I'm going to Vote: landlubber, because most everyone seems more towny.

Al Sips, here you call me Town for 'tone and early efforts'. Which early efforts, considering when you came in late D1 you voted me over everyone else?
 
Really? It looks pretty good to save a power role ya know

Particularly since arakhor said it may be ineffective in some sense anyways. And say the mafia knew a doctor existed, well a doctor can't protect himself, and if you choose someone totally random cgances are you can avoid the dictor's protection

And, of course, arakhor still was actually lynched.

You can show all the good townie efforts without actually having any positive result for the town



Anyways i dont know what to read of Zack pointing out day 2 how no one followed up on choxorn from day 1. It could be town *why aren't you all pressuring again?) or scum (let folks lynch choxorn because who cares [if choxorn town])
 
Al Sips, here you call me Town for 'tone and early efforts'. Which early efforts, considering when you came in late D1 you voted me over everyone else?

Well, not THAT early. :) Efforts you had before your absence. When I voted you, I only read some 300+ messages, and you didn't show your usual restraint when voting someone, so I wanted to clear that out.
 
I lean choxorn town because i refuse to believe Cuthillius, glossy, and al sipsclar are all town and I believe they were on chinese fire drill on choxorn end day 1

I doubt they were gungho enough to encourage a CFD on another wolf, if choxorn is a wolf

We were all concerned townies, clearly understanding that neither Arakhor nor Lassie were scum. And Choxorn was (and remains!) useless as a townie, so it appeared to be the lesser loss.
 
Zack, do you have any other adjectives that don't end in '-less'? Basically, the whole game you're shutting down everyone ideas by saying they are meaningless or pointless.
That is not true at all. I've shut down ideas that are dumb. I've been supportive of good ideas - look at my reaction to Murska's read list, for example, or choxorn's case on you. You are just mad that I don't agree with you, but it does not make me scum.

For what exactly I was trying to achieve, see Visor's "Rise of the Snake Cult" game on The .Org. That game was also without private communications, and there Winston was a tracker, and he was instrumental in lynching at least one scum and clearing at least one townie.
And I'm sure Winston only revealed because some townie publicly pleaded for a power role to reveal themselves, right?

And there's nothing wrong with rolefishing. As Snerk likes to say, it's the name of the game. I've been always rolefishing, see Red Dwarf and NSP3, for example.
I already explained my thought process behind why I take issue with it in this particular game. Those two games you referenced were role-heavy games, this one is mostly vanilla. Apples and oranges.

Zack is trending scummier for me. I have had him town most of the game, but his potentially defensive response to my Arakhor list combined with the fact that he is still alive even after most of the players have considered him town for a lot of the game is certainly worrisome. I would have expected the mafia to have attempted to kill him by now, and that hasn’t happened.
I was pointing out what a silly way to tunnel that is.

Why is it such a surprise I'm still alive? I've been wrong at every turn. Mafia probably love me. It certainly wouldn't be the first time I was left alive because I was having a bad game.

Zack, i think it was weirder you specifically left out pouter's suspicions of glossy/cass when you responded to glossysushi beginning day 2, especially since he voted glossy at least (i quoted that a few posts ago)
I really only looked closely at his more recent posts, in which he didn't indicate suspicion of those two. I don't have any agenda to protect glossy and cass, especially in such a transparent lie that would easily be found out.

But seeing as I was Kennigit 1.0 i can say with confidence i purposefully limited my scum reads, besides my mostly joke about 26 scum leans (though i will rarely clear people as town)
OOC: I think this is crossing a line revealing Kennigit v1's thoughts. Kennigit v1 is dead, he shouldn't be talking at all.

Vote: Zack. Here's why.
:popcorn:

Expanding on what BSmith said, you've been pushing to lynch townies,
So has everyone else lol. I'm no stranger to bussing my teammates in any case. I'm also no stranger to being wrong as town.

tunneling on Lassie,
Me and half of the players in the game.

and sabotaging any scumhunting effort by town. This is all evident in the thread.
What bull. How have I sabotaged anything? I pushed forward my own (incorrect) cases that people liked and jumped on. I've voiced some disagreements with people's reads and arguments, just as I've voiced agreements with people's reads and arguments. That is not sabotage, that is discussion.

The part that is not in the thread is what I was doing every night. I am the 2nd Doctor (though I prefer the 10th Doctor more). I have been protecting Zack every night, N1-N4. I got very excited when there was only one kill on N2 - maybe I saved a consensus townie from a kill! However, that excitement quickly faded away after Mat93 was lynched.
Is this a joke? TWO doctors? ATPG of all people should know how utterly broken a double-doctor setup is. I don't buy your claim for even a second. You are trying to flash your get out of jail free card, but it is an obvious counterfeit.

If there was a failed attempt on Zack's life on N2, would the scum try again and kill him after they learned that a Doctor was lynched? However, they decided they needed to kill KM, Tak, G1K, and Sooh instead. Zack was never their choice! This is why I'm convinced Zack is scum.
Like I said earlier, why would the mafia kill me? I've been able to convince people to join me on my incorrect wagons every day of the game, and they know I am inevitably going to catch flak for it.

I just want to get this straight. You (allegedly) protected me on a night with a missing kill, and as far as we know there is no other explanation for the lack of kill, and your conclusion is that I must be scum. Oh, and this all came out after I happened to vote for you. Give me a break.

Zack - I have some issue with his increase in aggression, explanation of switch to Mat and Lassie push gave me slightly bad vibes. I don't think there's been a reads for quite a while? Just get the feeling he's pushing everyone down?
Well what am I supposed to do, bury my head in the sand? Not give my opinions? Write a self-help book and distribute it? I am trying to find scum the only way I know how.
 
I just want to get this straight. You (allegedly) protected me on a night with a missing kill, and as far as we know there is no other explanation for the lack of kill, and your conclusion is that I must be scum.
Oh, but there's another explanation for the lack of kill. Mat93 protected someone else.

Oh, and this all came out after I happened to vote for you. Give me a break.
All this came out since I'm going to hang today, and there's no point for me not to reveal. I've been thinking that I'm wasting the protection on you since the day after Mat's lynch.

Is this a joke? TWO doctors? ATPG of all people should know how utterly broken a double-doctor setup is. I don't buy your claim for even a second. You are trying to flash your get out of jail free card, but it is an obvious counterfeit.

We'll see in a couple of hours, right? :lol:

'If I leave here tomorrow
Would you still remember me
For I must be travelin' on now
There's too many places I got to see'
 
Only 1.5 hours left, btw, so better get your votes in soon. If there's a sudden rush to lynch me out of nowhere at the last second because of some bogus second doctor claim, you know who to go after next.
 
I just can't reconcile how a game advertised as vanilla could have TWO doctors in it. Total nonsense.
 
Vote: Zack. Here's why.

Expanding on what BSmith said, you've been pushing to lynch townies, tunneling on Lassie, and sabotaging any scumhunting effort by town. This is all evident in the thread.

The part that is not in the thread is what I was doing every night. I am the 2nd Doctor (though I prefer the 10th Doctor more). I have been protecting Zack every night, N1-N4. I got very excited when there was only one kill on N2 - maybe I saved a consensus townie from a kill! However, that excitement quickly faded away after Mat93 was lynched.

If there was a failed attempt on Zack's life on N2, would the scum try again and kill him after they learned that a Doctor was lynched? However, they decided they needed to kill KM, Tak, G1K, and Sooh instead. Zack was never their choice! This is why I'm convinced Zack is scum.

This actually sounds like it could be promisisng.

Vote: Zack
 
Oh, but there's another explanation for the lack of kill. Mat93 protected someone else.
Sure, that's a potential explanation, but it's not really what I was getting at. My point is that the following line of reasoning:

1. I'm a doctor and protected Zack on the only night there was a missing kill.
2. Zack is scum because he was apparently not attacked again.

is unnatural. It's a strange line of thought for a town doctor to have.
 
Al are you claiming you know cuthilliys and glossy have to be town too?

Iirc mat93 was "limited doctor" so if there any stipulations you have you gotta clear that al sipsckar
 
Sure, that's a potential explanation, but it's not really what I was getting at. My point is that the following line of reasoning:

1. I'm a doctor and protected Zack on the only night there was a missing kill.
2. Zack is scum because he was apparently not attacked again.

is unnatural. It's a strange line of thought for a town doctor to have.

If Mat93 was still alive, I would never doubted you.
 
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