Bachmann is concerned about the rise of the SOVIET UNION

[nonconformist]

Religion is apolitical.

Tell the Quakers that.

Or indeed the Church of England.

 

[Dachs]

or alternatively tell the entire history of the world that

because frankly that'd just be faster than listing every instance that disproves what he said

 

[Arakhor]

I would hazard a guess that religion is only "apolitical" to people who agree with that politician's religious views.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Obama is. Obama and Michelle Bachmann are both actually fairly close to center. Kim Il Jung, Qadaffi, and Assad are far-right wingnuts; Bachmann is not a radical wingnut. Far-left folks simply see her that way.

Michelle Bachmann is so far right and says so many wacky things that even Fox News' Chris Wallace asked her "Are you a flake"?

Anybody who wants to reinstitute DADT and thinks that DOMA is the most important political issue, while being so obsessed about gays is about as ultraconservative as you can possibly get in this country, never mind trying to revive the Cold War.

 

[IglooDame]

My missus is not Jewish and I don't live in Derry.


what the hell are you talking about?

I thought you had Jewish family?

I don't know where you live, Derry was a good enough choice, if I were trolling, I'dha called it "londonderry"

Hey, wait, I live in Derry (or Londonderry, depending on who I'm talking to).

 

[nonconformist]

Let's just call it Derry-slash-Londonderry for old times' sake

 

[GhostWriter16]

Anybody who wants to reinstitute DADT and thinks that DOMA is the most important political issue, while being so obsessed about gays is about as ultraconservative as you can possibly get in this country, never mind trying to revive the Cold War.

Well, to be fair, a lot of people support DADT. You don't have to be THAT conservative to support that.

That said, DOMA being the biggest political issue in the county is simply dumb.

 

[nonconformist]

A lot of people support gay marriage too bro

 

[Formaldehyde]

Well, to be fair, a lot of people support DADT. You don't have to be THAT conservative to support that.

Gallup found 67 percent don't support DADT and only 28% do support it, with most opposition coming from conservative Republicans:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/145130/support-repealing-dont-ask-dont-tell.aspx

Among people who responded to CNN polls, the disparity was even greater.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...78-percent-favor-repealing-dont-ask-dont-tell

A full 78 percent of respondents said that "people who are openly gay or homosexual" should be able to serve in the armed forces. The results are similar to what CNN found in December of 2008 (81 percent) and May of 2007 (79 percent).

It appears to be a very polar issue based on how conservative the people are, which is not much of a surprise. Even non-conservative Republicans oppose it, as well as a healthy percentage of conservative Republicans.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Even if its 67%, you aren't THAT radical to be in the 33% of the most conservative population. Personally, I'm somewhat undecided but it isn't that radical...

 

[Formaldehyde]

Nope. It's only 28% who support it, and the vast majority of those are conservative Republicans. Once again, non-conservative Republicans don't even support it, even slightly more than the national average. And 39% of the conservative Republicans think it is a bad idea. Only 57% of that group even support it anymore.

In another 10-20 years hardly anybody will support it, just like any other form of discrimination which eventually died.

 

[Quackers]

If religion is apolitical, why is there such a thing as the "Religious Right"?

..and why is there such a thing as the Christian left?

 

[GhostWriter16]

..and why is there such a thing as the Christian left?

My point wasn't that religion CAN'T influence politics, but that it doesn't HAVE too. That there's no such thing as "Your religious views are right wing."

Nope. It's only 28% who support it, and the vast majority of those are conservative Republicans. Once again, non-conservative Republicans don't even support it, even slightly more than the national average. And 39% of the conservative Republicans think it is a bad idea. Only 57% of that group even support it anymore.

In another 10-20 years hardly anybody will support it, just like any other form of discrimination which eventually died.

I honestly don't know what to think. On the one hand, being gay doesn't necessarily influence your ability in the military. On the other hand, being in a foxhole with a gay man could be equally uncomfortable as being in a foxhole with a woman...

I don't know. I say let the military make whatever decision it feels would be the most safe. But I'm sure there's middle ground somewhere between DADT and no restriction at all...

 

[nonconformist]

I honestly don't know what to think. On the one hand, being gay doesn't necessarily influence your ability in the military. On the other hand, being in a foxhole with a gay man could be equally uncomfortable as being in a foxhole with a woman...

Uh yeah...you know most soldiers don't have a problem with being in "foxholes with women"

Also the fact that foxholes haven't been used since, you know, then 70s?

 

[Traitorfish]

My point wasn't that religion CAN'T influence politics, but that it doesn't HAVE too. That there's no such thing as "Your religious views are right wing."

Of course there is. Bachmann believes that her religion compels her to implement right-wing policies, ergo, her religious beliefs are right-wing. Trying to introduced some semantic insulation between the one and the other doesn't serve any other purpose than apologising for her kind of politics, her kind of religion, or both.

I honestly don't know what to think. On the one hand, being gay doesn't necessarily influence your ability in the military. On the other hand, being in a foxhole with a gay man could be equally uncomfortable as being in a foxhole with a woman...

You're aware that the military was at one point segregated by race, yes? Do you believe that this was justified?

 

[Theige]

I honestly don't know what to think. On the one hand, being gay doesn't necessarily influence your ability in the military. On the other hand, being in a foxhole with a gay man could be equally uncomfortable as being in a foxhole with a woman...

So do you want to kick women out of the army now too?

 

[Mise]

Just heard that Michelle Bachmann is calling the 5.8 quake on the East Coast today "The Obama Earthquake".

"The question needs to be asked: Why didn't Barack Obama do anything to prevent the earthquake?" said Bachmann in a radio interview earlier today.

 

[GamezRule]

LOLWUT! That woman is borderline ********.

 

[Traitorfish]

What was all that was being said about folk slagging her just because she was a Republican? I want to hear that again.

Edit: Damn, my irony receptors seem to have been offline, there.

 

[Arakhor]

Since she seems to be saying that Barack Obama is second only to God, with power over tectonic plates, I can only assume that she is either completely mad, crap-stirring to an insane degree or is so jealous of the President's near-divine power that she is blaming him for everything that goes wrong in the natural world.