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Would you please be specific about the term that is supposedly offensive in Australia? Cause right now you're being rather diffuse about it.
I've stated my reasons for not posting the word. You're welcome to look it up, though. Renee O'Connor (Gabrielle) talked about it during a behind-the-scenes interview (subsequently published in print; I don't recall if I read it in a magazine or one of the "making of" books) when she was discussing how fight scenes are set up. She used a word that is completely inoffensive in North America but which caused some confusion and embarrassment to the Australian cast and crew.
 
I don't care enough for your claim to look it up.

I will, however, inform you that I take a lot of offense from you first presenting the existence of such a term, and then refusing to even mention it. I already find it insanely stupid that certain Internet forums will ban some assorted terms from even being written out in a discussion about those very words, but for you to go as far as to refusing to name some word that you assume some hypothetical people might find offensive, is pure hysteria.
 
Now I understand where Roseanne is coming from a little. I had no idea what Valerie Jarret looks like but I finally looked her up on Wikipedia and she looks just a little like Helen Bonham Carter’s character in one of the remakes of Planet of the Apes. I wouldn’t have thought that without Roseanne pointing it out and after a google search of the character she doesn’t look much like her but I can kind of see it.

Also I would not have guessed she is black from the photo and especially if she was born in Iran. I’m guessing her parents were Americans who were working there.

The Muslim Brotherhood thing seems more deliberately offensive to me, as if she’s a Muslim fanatic for having been born in Iran.

I’m guessing the word in the Xena controversy is fanny. I also confused an Australian and British person by using the word fanny pack not thinking of the different association.
 
"Fanny" is a word used in Ireland and in the UK to mean the female genitalia. Where I come from, it's pretty tame. I think there are worse words to get worked up over.
 
"Fanny" is a word used in Ireland and in the UK to mean the female genitalia. Where I come from, it's pretty tame. I think there are worse words to get worked up over.

TIL something that I probably have no use for, but it's still interesting. No wonder some people get so weirded out about men wearing fanny packs.
 
It could cause a pretty embarrassing situation depending on how it’s used in a sentence if someone didn’t know that.
 
TIL something that I probably have no use for, but it's still interesting. No wonder some people get so weirded out about men wearing fanny packs.

I can't speak for the rest of the "fanny is a kids word for vagina" anglosphere but just to complete the circle, we call those things bum bags. Which I suppose in the US is a term that might evoke a kind of bindle given the usual meaning of bum.
 
I can't speak for the rest of the "fanny is a kids word for vagina" anglosphere but just to complete the circle, we call those things bum bags. Which I suppose in the US is a term that might evoke a kind of bindle given the usual meaning of bum.
It Depends....:mischief:
 
Now I understand where Roseanne is coming from a little. I had no idea what Valerie Jarret looks like but I finally looked her up on Wikipedia and she looks just a little like Helen Bonham Carter’s character in one of the remakes of Planet of the Apes. I wouldn’t have thought that without Roseanne pointing it out and after a google search of the character she doesn’t look much like her but I can kind of see it.

Also I would not have guessed she is black from the photo and especially if she was born in Iran. I’m guessing her parents were Americans who were working there.

The Muslim Brotherhood thing seems more deliberately offensive to me, as if she’s a Muslim fanatic for having been born in Iran.

I’m guessing the word in the Xena controversy is fanny. I also confused an Australian and British person by using the word fanny pack not thinking of the different association.

I didn't even consider the remake with HB Carter. I figured since Barr's older she would have been talking about the original. But maybe not.
 
I don't care enough for your claim to look it up.
Now you know how I feel when told to "google it yourself because I'm not going to tell you."

So don't bother. It doesn't alter the fact that the situation happened.

I will, however, inform you that I take a lot of offense from you first presenting the existence of such a term, and then refusing to even mention it. I already find it insanely stupid that certain Internet forums will ban some assorted terms from even being written out in a discussion about those very words, but for you to go as far as to refusing to name some word that you assume some hypothetical people might find offensive, is pure hysteria.
Then be offended. At least you're offended over my refusal to post a word that I've been given to understand is a problem in certain situations.

That's pretty tame in comparison to all the people here telling me it's perfectly okay to post a word that IS offensive to a lot of women (and men), and is in fact part of the autocensor list here.

Just as you don't care if I'm offended (over a word that is legitimately something to be offended about), I don't care if you're offended (over a word that some have said is a problem, I have no reason to call them liars even though I find it amusing, and so I will not post it).

We're done with this.

I’m guessing the word in the Xena controversy is fanny. I also confused an Australian and British person by using the word fanny pack not thinking of the different association.
It's not fanny. I already stated this.
 
Let's play GUESS THE SWEARWORD! Today's contestants include a Norwegian Wildcat and a curmudgeonly Canadian! Aaaaaaand here's your host, ...
 
Wiki has a very complete and interesting article on the c word. It even includes a reference to Ms. bee and her recent use of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****
 
Let's play GUESS THE SWEARWORD! Today's contestants include a Norwegian Wildcat and a curmudgeonly Canadian! Aaaaaaand here's your host, ...

Reminds me, if you want to give your kid a Scandinavian name, Knut is best avoided, especially the Anglicized spelling.
 
As vile as that word is, it's always frustrating to see white bourgeoisie feminism co-opt actual feminist talking points and ideas to protect abuses against marginalized poorer women. While y'all are debating the offensiveness of the word, hundreds of non-white women are held by the ICE, and hundreds of families are torn apart, while Ivanka Trump, hiding under the guise of benevolent motherhood, participates and enforces the system which perpetuates injustice against poor and non-white women. So yeah, Ivanka is a ****.

Here is a short opinion piece written by an immigrant woman of color: Listen Up, ****.
****” can be a vile slur, but context is everything. It is understandable why some may have heard Bee’s comments as in line with those meanings. Ivanka is a powerful woman, and Sex And The City assures us that there hordes of powerful white women whose ascension from the 10% to the 1% was hindered by the terrible sexism evident in words like “****.” But Bee’s comments weren’t about Ivanka’s competence or ability to exist in a “man’s world” politics and careerism— Bee began with the assumption that Ivanka wielded every bit the power and responsibility as the men around her.
Moreover, her critique of Trump wasn’t because she broke traditional gender roles; it was quite the opposite. Bee criticizes Ivanka for the way that she hides within traditional gender roles (here, motherhood), carefully cultivating an innocent image that makes her more difficult to critique than her father. Ivanka’s innocence is being leveraged in this very conversation, as she escapes into a linguistic history of women’s persecution while the most vulnerable women in our nation die at the hands of our government. #Feminism.
Bee flipped the script. She blasts Ivanka for actions carried out from a place of power, but never suggests she is out of place. Indeed, Ivanka is perfectly in her place as a champion of the systems of whiteness and wealth that created her. Here, “****” doesn’t mean “a woman with too much power in an otherwise good system.” It means, “a woman with too much power in a system that privileges the powerful; a woman who uses power to destroy others.”


And this is how free speech loses ground... The left gets outraged about a joke and the right counters with outrage about a joke - both are outraged based on partisan politics. Just looks like hypocrisy to me.

I like Bee, I dont like Barr... Both should keep their shows.
The left isn't outraged about Bee and doesn't particularly care about Roseanne, but the right has already made Roseanne a martyr and a hero, and is using Bee to distract from things like this: Leaked photo reveals 'mass trial' of immigrants in Texas.

The only adult person in Trump's "family" who I would somewhat sympathize with is Melania. I feel like she married Donald for money, and then he decided to run for president, and now she has do to all this bullcrap that first ladies have to do. Every time I watch her, her face has the expression "I DID NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS SOMEONE HELP ME GET OUT".

I also wonder how she, an immigrant woman from a poor Eastern European country, feels when her hubby talks about people from "********" coming to America. Or that locker room talk... or the Stormy case.

Like I legit feel bad for Melania sometimes.

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OK I thought this was the case but not totally sure — Samantha Bee said this about Ivanka because she tweeted a photo with her son.

I get she’s involved with her father’s administration but they’re not the same people and this does have the effect of distracting from the real issue because someone on the left did something deliberately controversial.
 
Ivanka Trump is literally a senior advisor to Trump. Everything she does has an effect in this administration. She is basically a second-degree politician.
 
Ivanka Trump is literally a senior advisor to Trump. Everything she does has an effect in this administration. She is basically a second-degree politician.
I'm still not convinced she isn't an advisor simply because daddy has the hots for her.
 
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