Boycott Halal

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I never understood why we should be paying for something that we don''t need.
Aussie firms paying inflated price to have Halal certification
POWERFUL Muslim clerics in Jakarta are raising money for Islamic schools and mosques by forcing Australian businesses to pay an inflated religious levy on meat exports.

The Indonesian Council of Ulama (MUI), the top Islamic body which orders Fatwa religious rulings, is dictating how much Australian companies must pay to have their food certified as Halal, or legal under Islamic law.

The MUI has expelled three Australian certifiers of Halal meat - even ordering one to stop doing business because it was charging less than its rivals. The scandal has triggered a boycott by some of Australia's leading meat processors, which are refusing to use more expensive certifiers endorsed by the MUI.

But abattoirs have been unable to export Halal meat to Indonesia as a result, risking a trade dispute with one of Australia's key export markets.

MUI chairman Amidhan Shaberah yesterday said that setting minimum fees for Halal was "just part of our control''.

"We have to standardise the charge to avoid any unfair competition between certifiers,'' he said during an interview in Jakarta.

"If we allow them to charge under the standard (price), other certifiers will (find it) hard to get clients.''

Dr Shaberah said Australian Halal certifiers should donate profits to Islamic mosques and schools.

"They should contribute for mosques, Islamic schools, the Islamic community and other social activities,'' he said.

The MUI has suspended Brisbane-based Australian Halal Food Services (AHFS) for engaging in "unfair competition'' that could "weaken (the) Halal certification movement".

"Descended rate of price and cost of certifying … by AHFS … is an unfair competition and weaken(s) Halal certification movement,'' its suspension letter stated.

One major Queensland meat processor, which did not want to be identified, claimed it had been quoted $27,000 a month in Halal certification fees through another MUI-endorsed certifier - four times more than AHFS had been charging.

Stephen Kelly, the general manager of industry affairs for the Japanese-owned Nippon Meat Packers, said its Queensland abattoirs that had used AHFS could no longer sell Halal meat in Indonesia.

"Indonesia is still an important market and we would be keen to have a resolution of this,'' he said.

JBS Australia - the nation's biggest meat packer and exporter with more than 8500 employees - has also been unable to export beef from Queensland to Indonesia.

"We would like to think there's competition in the market rather than a monopoly in the market,'' JBS director John Berry said.

Dr Shaberah said the Brisbane certifier, AHFS, had been suspended for trying to work interstate, and a Melbourne company, Australian Halal Authority and Advisers (AHAA), had been deregistered for "operating without a permit for more than five years'' - even though it was recognised by AQIS at the time.

But a spokesman for AHAA said it had been banned from operating because its head office was in Victoria - where the rival Global Halal Trade Centre is the sole approved certifier.

Dr Shaberah said the third certifier to be struck off, the Adelaide Mosque Islamic Society of South Australia, had failed to pay its US$1000 membership fee and had been "out of contact'' for more than a year.

Adelaide Mosque Islamic Society refused to comment yesterday.

The federal Department of Agriculture confirmed it had no power over approvals for religious certifiers, but a spokesman said: "The Australian Government values our close relationship with MUI and will continue to work together with MUI to overcome issues that affect the mutually beneficial trade in red meat to Indonesia."

WHAT IS HALAL?

HALAL is an Arabic word meaning "lawful". Foods that are prohibited as non-Halal include alcohol, pig meat and carnivorous animals such as crocodiles.

Muslims can only eat meat that has been prepared according to Islamic law.

Animals must be slaughtered by a "sane adult Muslim'', who invokes the name of Allah before slashing the animal's throat with a razor-sharp knife as it faces Mecca.

It must not see other animals being killed, and must bleed out before processing.

Australian animal welfare regulations require that animals be stunned before slaughter, but Islamic groups insist that stunning is non-Halal.
First off it is enforcing a foreign law upon us, since it part of the Islamic code of Law and not subject to Australian laws. Second their is the animal welfare concerns with Halal
 
First off it is enforcing a foreign law upon us, since it part of the Islamic code of Law and not subject to Australian laws.

Islamic Law is transnational and its execution depends on private actors and states willing to act. You can't really force it, unless you are a country. This is however, not the case.

Second their is the animal welfare concerns with Halal

What about kosher food? Killing animals is killing animals, and going through the jugulars first instead of through the bones hardly makes a difference in terms of animal welfare; in both cases, the animal will die in less than a few seconds.
 
I srongly suggest vegetarian diet...:)

Who is paying? Aussi goverment or companies doing business with muslims?
 
This thread has put me in the mood for a nice bit of kebab.
 
I really don't see how this is enforcing a religious law upon those companies unless your own government is forcing those companies to produce Halal certified products. The companies can always opt out of having anything to do with it, can't they?
 
But I guess Kosher is fine 'ey ch

Anyway why do you hate private enterprise.
 
Wrong use of the word racist. Islam is a religion, not a race. Muslims come in all shapes and sizes and colors.
 
Bigotry then. Or hate or whatever.
 
Wrong use of the word racist. Islam is a religion, not a race. Muslims come in all shapes and sizes and colors.
It's possible to construct a racist position in anti-Islamic terms, much as anti-Irish and anti-Polish racism was historically constructed in anti-Catholic terms.
 
I suppose. It's just one of my pet peeves. People scream racism at every little thing when many times (probably most) that's not the issue. It kinda waters down the allegation overall.
 
Why is it a pet peeve? I don't understand why such a trivial mislabel would bother someone.
 
It's a piss poor technicality to hide behind. Traitorfish's example was a good one. We know what's really bothering a crazy old WASP grandad when he starts frothing at at the mouth about idol worshipping papists. Of course actual racists latch on to this and use it to cover their asses. The EDL in the UK claims to be anti-Islamic extremism. It's a dog whistle thing.
 
I found an interesting Halal food website called Halal Focus. It not only has "fair and balanced" coverage of this particular issue, it also has a number of other quite interesting related stories:

Australia: Aussie Muslims Denounce Anti-Halal Stickers

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) – A new sticker campaign linking halal food to terrorism has angered Australian Muslims, accusing rightist groups of spreading baseless misconceptions about a peaceful Muslim community.

“We are speechless, what do we say about this,” Islamic Council of Queensland president Mohammed Yusuf told 7News on Wednesday, July 24.

“There is so much misconception about Halal… it is a simple question of us meeting our religious rights, just like the Jewish community.”

The Muslim uproar has been sparked by the discovery of a jar of coffee with its seal broken at a Woolworths supermarket at Underwood, south of Brisbane, earlier this month.

The jar had a sticker saying ‘‘Beware! Halal food funds terrorists’’.

After search, the stickers were found to be sold by Restore Australia, Restore Australia whose CEO is Mike Holt, the One Nation Party’s candidate for the federal seat of Fairfax.

Holt, who co-founded the organization, says on the company website that Restore Australia is a non-political organization wanting to restore power to the people.

He added that he stood by his website and that Muslims were “forcing a Halal tax on us” through certification which raised money for terrorism.

“The Australian people should be able to vote in a referendum on whether we want to pay a Halal tax or not,” according to the Restore Australia website.

“Plaster the anti-Halal stickers everywhere and help educate Aussies about the creeping attack on our food supply.”

The police investigation ended up in the arrest of a 27-year-old Kingston woman who will front the Beenleigh Magistrates Court on Friday charged with one count of product contamination.

After her arrest, Restore Australia posted an appeal on Facebook asking for the name of lawyers who might help her for free.

“Nestle has decided to fight back against our anti-halal sticker campaign by having a 19-year-old girl in Brisbane arrested for ‘product tampering’. Alleging that she put an anti-Halal sticker on one of their jars of coffee and then opened it,”
Restore Australia said.

“Nestle has just… shot themselves in the foot. Instead of doing the right thing and stop selling us out to Islam, they have decided to pick on a young woman and take her to court.”

UAE: Australian Food Festival At Lulu Hypermarket

H.E. the Australian Ambassador, Mr Pablo Kang, will be launching the Australian food festival 2013, which will run from the 18th until the 21st April. This will feature Australian grocery, meat, dairy, deli, frozen foods, fish and bakery, as well as Australian foods served on the hot food counters.

With food imports currently valued at AS$642 million, the UAE is Australia’s largest trading partner in the region. Food imports mainly focus on Australian meat, with meat trade figures alone worth AS$368 million.

Halal-certified food is also of growing importance to trade between the UAE and Australia, leading to the launch of specialized halal-certification bodies in Australia. These specialised governing bodies have been created to monitor, supervise and certify all products imported to the Middle East. Australian halal exports are estimated at around AS$4 billion of total agricultural exports of around AS$35 billion according to the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics.

Australia: Halal expert earns processing industry’s highest honour

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The managing director of the Wodonga abattoir in northern Victoria, Jon Hayes, earned the meat processing industry’s highest honour last night when he joined a select group of industry stakeholders named as Distinguished Australians of the Year.

Wodonga’s Jon Hayes, centre, is inducted as one of AMIC’s Distinguished Australians by Maersk Line’s Nicholas Long and AMIC processor chairman David Larkin.

As part of his long-standing responsibilities as an AMIC processor board member, Mr Hayes has taken a key role in representing Australia’s interests in the field of Halal certification, allowing Australian exports to access a growing number of Halal-dependent markets around the world. He has chaired AMIC’s Halal committee for more than a decade, and has represented Australia numerous times at World Halal forums. Because of his integrity and commitment to the Halal cause, Mr Hayes has been one of the few non-Muslim representatives asked to speak at the forum events.

There is no doubt that Australia’s reputation as a reputable and committed Halal beef and sheepmeat supplier has been greatly strengthened as a result of Mr Hayes’ contribution to industry.

He was also large responsible for the formation of the former AQIS Halal Consultative Committee (as of yesterday renamed simply Department of Agriculture).

The committee comprises all Australian Halal stakeholders, including the 15 Islamic certifiers operating in Australia, individual processors, AMIC, AQIS and other government agencies. The committee’s focus is to ensure that Australia’s Halal systems and processes carry the highest integrity in international customers’ eyes.

Rise in Australian red meat exports to Saudi Arabia

Australian red meat exports to Saudi Arabia have soared so far this year with analysts predicting further growth in the market.

Australia: Halal food dishing out radical change in society

HALAL food is now sold at a dozen McDonald’s restaurants and bacon is off the menu at some KFC outlets to accommodate the religious sensitivities of Australia’s growing Muslim population.

The Muslim population has soared by 40 per cent to 476,291 in just five years – paving the way for a building program of schools, mosques and prayer rooms in the suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne.

Even the country’s biggest sports stadiums, including ANZ Stadium and the MCG, have moved to offer multi-faith prayer rooms for devout Muslims.

A KFC spokesman yesterday said three of its restaurants, including two at Bankstown and Punchbowl, are certified to sell halal food prepared in a way that is acceptable to Muslims.
 
Second their is the animal welfare concerns with Halal

This is a common misconception among many Non-Muslims who think that the Muslim 'Zabiha method' for slaughtering animals is barbaric & extremly painful for the animal. In fact it is not only less painful for the animal but it is also more hygienic than than the standard method of stunning & decapitation used in the West.

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