strijder20
Wallowing in irony
Capitalism doesn't agree with you. And you've never struck me as a socialist.
Offer and demand.
Boycott Halal
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Capitalism doesn't agree with you. And you've never struck me as a socialist.
Offer and demand.
There is a contradiction in the human beliefs, that is all. Obviously I happen to think they are wrong, but they think the same of me. I am a Unitarian, you are, IIRC, a Trinitarian. That is a contradiction, so does that mean we do not worship the same God? God is God, the same God that made a covenant with Abraham. That his children are fractured in how they worship him does not mean he's different Gods.
You just had to say it and make me spend way too much time looking for an ancient post I knew I wrote...
I couldn't find it, but it was basically saying the same thing. We seem to get more offended at people who believe 'close' to what we do, but are off in critical areas than we do someone whose beliefs are totally foreign. Hindus? Okay, a little weird with their beef thing but okay whatever. Catholics? BURN 'EM, BURN 'EM ALL!! (That was just an example, folks. I don't really want to burn those heretic Catholics.)
strijder20
Wallowing in irony
According to the Qu'ran, Allah's son hasn't been born yet. According to the OT, Allah's son is yet to be born. I thought you were the religious expert here?
Sorry, but I don't see what you mean by this. Could you please expand on your point?
That could just mean that the Koran is wrong. or the bible (one but not the other).
Yeah, it's best to leave before sleeping is the activity.
Nick Carpathia
Unleash the HAARP
Another day, another idiotic Classical Hero post.
FriendlyFire
Codex WMDicanious
Indonesia is a mix of first world with mostly undeveloped third world and looking at an issue of bribes / corruption.
i.e Fiber optic cable was broken in Indonesian waters by illegal fishing, Indonesia passed a law stating that ONLY Indonesian company will be allowed to repair the cable in Indonesian waters. Even though 2 months later NO Indonesian company exist that can repair the broken cable.
Resolution: Pay stupid
EDIT: Thats 27k per MONTH or 324k per year x 3 meat packing companies = 972k per year
That's a chunk of money, no doubt that certification company is looking to keep this good deal, especially if someone can certify for less than 1/4 the cost.
Wut?
No. Seriously, I don't get it.
Fruits and vegetables are pretty much all halal.
I guess you could eat raw fish or whatever, that's probably not halal.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
That was one company, not 3. And it was due to the Indonesians requiring their own Halal inspectors on top of the other existing inspections.
Again, we really have no idea what part of the $4B per year industry this particular company was responsible.
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FriendlyFire
Codex WMDicanious
I would assume at a minimal that all three certifiers would not be working for the same meat packing company. Plus the article make it clear to price fixing or setting a minimal price for the certifications. The main issue seems to be the cost being four fold which is a pretty big price difference.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Well, they clearly weren't. But there is no reason to assume that all of the companies which they did work also had exactly the same increase in costs, much less that it would be limited to only 3 other companies.
All we do know is that one company claims that the cost of certification had increased fourfold to $27K. And that it was at least partly due to them apparently having to have another different certification which would satisfy MUI.
And as the other article I posted makes quite clear, this wasn't the only issue that the MUI had with at least one of these certifiers. There is far more to this matter than simply disagreeing with one of the companies undercutting the pricing of certification. This same certification company was trying to expand into states where they were prohibited from operating based on the rules that the MUI had set.
All we do know is that one company claims that the cost of certification had increased fourfold to $27K. And that it was at least partly due to them apparently having to have another different certification which would satisfy MUI.
And as the other article I posted makes quite clear, this wasn't the only issue that the MUI had with at least one of these certifiers. There is far more to this matter than simply disagreeing with one of the companies undercutting the pricing of certification. This same certification company was trying to expand into states where they were prohibited from operating based on the rules that the MUI had set.
According To Quran, Allah has no son at all, and He will never have a biological son. End of story. Reference : Surah Ikhlas. And just to clarify, Islam & Judaism have similarities because both holy books were revealed by Allah. The difference is that with time Old & New Testament were changed by the people so there might be contradictions & mistakes in them, but Quran has remained unchanged over the 1400 years.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
Just read the above p0st for the Muslim view.
This is what the Bible says.
Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Isaiah 9:6,7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
Matthew 3:16,17 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
strijder20
Wallowing in irony
Yes, because all Muslim copiers were geniuses who made zero mistakes in copying while the christian monks were a bunch of clumsy novices to the art of copying.
Mise
isle of lucy
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