Can a typeface be racist?

[aelf]

You have access to knowledge of my intentions?

Clearly there is a need to find out (and police) people's intentions.

PS: RUN IT'S THE THOUGHT POLICE!!!

 

[ParkCungHee]

As a human being, I find Comic Sans offensive.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Really? I'd never heard of the guy, will take a look. But which of his books exactly did you meant?

Inventing Eastern Europe.

What an Asian-American might object to in the use of Chop Suey is the flattening of an entire world culture down to a series of vulgar clichés, and the associated flattening of actual Asian people down to the walking embodiment of these clichés.

Is flattening the whole Soviet culture any better? I can see someone making the argument of:

The ruling circles of the USA deliberately stereotyped the Soviet civilization down. The Americans don't know about great authors like Sholokov or Tvardovsky, they don't know about our great struggle on the WWII eastern front, but they surely know about commie villains in one-dimensional films.

 

[luiz]

I'm not going to tell you. You should simply know my intentions, if you're going to judge me by those, and not by my content.

Yeah, and I know your intentions. That was a rhetorical question, kid.

What I'm saying all along is that we should judge what is said by the intentional message, not the form. And that's what I said about your insult: your intention was to insult, your form was composed of regular, non-taboo words.

Also it is you who are talking of "content". I am discerning the intention from the form.

What's all this about content? At any rate, I did mainly out of concern for the moderation staff, but if you really want to hear it, your also a filthy wog from a third world ********, full of blood. If you want anything else, I'm afraid I charge 15 bucks an hour to say degrading in private chat.

See?
Your intention didn't change because you used "bad" words. What is written above, in this context, is no worse than what you wrote before, in that context. It's the same garbage.

This is what I am saying all along, and you keep on proving my point.

You're not the brightest crayon in the box, are you?

You have access to knowledge of my intentions? Then tell me what my intention is by not addressing this point.

I have "access" to your intentions when you make them clear by, for instance, writing an insulting post. When you don't make them clear I have no idea what they are.

You don't communicate much, do you?

 

[ParkCungHee]

Inventing Eastern Europe.

My god, it's full of trolls!

The ruling circles of the USA deliberately stereotyped the Soviet civilization down. The Americans don't know about great authors like Sholokov or Tvardovsky, they don't know about our great struggle on the WWII eastern front, but they surely know about commie villains in one-dimensional films.

While this is a serious problem, turning Russian culture into an inhuman other, there is a key difference between that situation and that of Asians. While Americans do not know Sholokov or Tvardovsky, they know Asimov, Stravinksy and Prokofiev. We even know terrible authors like Rand. "The Soviets" were a distant, alien threat, but Soviet Americans never were an isolated, persecuted group. They were always regarded as Americans. The problem of Asian Americans was that no matter how long they resided in they were regarded as still the same flat, inhuman aliens. Therefor the problem of Asian Americans is more sensitive in America, for the same reason the problem of Caucasians is more sensitive in Russia than America.

 

[Traitorfish]

Is flattening the whole Soviet culture any better? I can see someone making the argument of:

The ruling circles of the USA deliberately stereotyped the Soviet civilization down. The Americans don't know about great authors like Sholokov or Tvardovsky, they don't know about our great struggle on the WWII eastern front, but they surely know about commie villains in one-dimensional films.

That's true enough, and I can see a Russian getting pissed off about that. However, flattening a culture down to a series of clichés does not necessarily mean flattening actual human beings down to those clichés. That's something that a Russian-American is quite unlikely to experience, but that many Asian-Americans have to deal with on what I'm sure is a frustratingly regular basis.


(Edit: ...Or what Park said, basically.)

 

[ParkCungHee]

Yeah, and I know your intentions. That was a rhetorical question, kid.

No, you think you know my intentions. Feel free to ask other posters for the answer. I'm willing to bet one of them will get it.

What I'm saying all along is that we should judge what is said by the intentional message, not the form. And that's what I said about your insult: your intention was to insult,

Prove it.

Also it is you who are talking of "content". I am discerning the intention from the form.

Ah, so form is irrelevant. We're having fun with synonyms.

I have "access" to your intentions when you make them clear by, for instance, writing an insulting post.

So what your saying is, is that because you feel insulted by the post, therefor you know my intentions, and this is what I should be judged by. Yes, I can see how you have a problem with "Political Correctness"

When you don't make them clear I have no idea what they are.

Why? I didn't put on any tin foil hats, nothing is blocking your mental link. Here I'm going to demonstrate the same intention again, to make myself clearly understood.

 

[luiz]

You're an imbecile.

 

[ParkCungHee]

When an imbecile can argue and think more clearly then you, what are you?

 

[Tee Kay]

It's rather amusing, really, that a thread that is essentially about some random guy ranting about a bad font descended into blood sport and Nazi accusations after only a few hours.

 

[Farm Boy]

I think some of us did a little better. I think some of us didn't want to do any better.

 

[luiz]

When an imbecile can argue and think more clearly then you, what are you?

The fact you think your argument even came close to mine only highlights your imbecility.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

It's rather amusing, really, that a thread that is essentially about some random guy ranting about a bad font descended into blood sport and Nazi accusations after only a few hours.

Yeah. I was amused too that it took so long.

 

[Traitorfish]

The fact you think your argument even came close to mine only highlights your imbecility.

Did you actually have an argument? From where I'm standing, you just kept asserting "intent is all that matters", over and over, while repeatedly contradicting yourself.

 

[luiz]

Did you actually have an argument? From where I'm standing, you just kept asserting "intent is all that matters", over and over, while repeatedly contradicting yourself.

Point to a single contradiction.

And when I look at an exchange like the one in post #84, really, there's no doubt in my mind who is right and who is wrong (and an imbecile).

 

[ParkCungHee]

The fact you think your argument even came close to mine only highlights your imbecility.

Well that wasn't my intent, so I think it's rather PC of you to feel that way.

 

[luiz]

As I said, imbecile.

 

[azzaman333]

Racists fonts. Now I've seen everything.

 

[Tee Kay]

I wonder if this thread has already checked all eight points on this list.

 

[Traitorfish]

Only seven and eight, as far as I can tell, and eight only rhetorically.