Oh, so I don't "have the authority to speak on a systemic level, especially when we start talking about countries that aren't your own," - but you, and those on this thread who more or less agree on your broad points of view can? Did you really not proof read that blatant and glaring hypocrisy and double-standard you just typed there. Also, how many South Africans have any you actually spoken to in person who have been candid about affairs back home - I've spoken to five (two White and three Black), and it seems the situation really isn't as simple at all on a "Black" and "White" as you and certain other posters have been going about should be axies of redress, and take into account the finer grained details of affairs - because you're viewing them like how the racial struggles unfold in your own countries and projecting to a country that is not your own. I have not actually stated once that "a pure post-racial culture where all demographics have it equally as bad," exists - if you read my, which you didn't quote, so I'm not even sure you did fully, I used a whole bunch of qualifiers to my terms to say that things were not as they were in '60's, which seemed to the extreme @Cloud_Strife, but I didn't actually say racism was "erased" or not present. But it seems even acknowledging any societal progress in institutional racism seems to be attacked as tantamount to denying racism at all. As for South Africa, all I've said there, which I seem to be constantly attacked for (based on a lack of understanding and education of the situation and assumption certain dynamics must, by default, be the same as in the U.S.), is that, in their case, addressing socio-economic imbalance and injustice on a racial level of just "Black" and "White" is unproductive there, as the situation is more fine-grained and is not the same in it's history, or today, really at all.