The_Tyrant
Values Guardian
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- Sep 21, 2010
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@EQ: When will I regain the lost economic points from this
Capto Iugulum: Empires and Nations
- Thread starter EQandcivfanatic
- Start date
Trade takes time to rebuild, won't all come back overnight. Plus people are likely to want to make sure you aren't going to eat their hearts.
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
To Paris
From Normandy
Playing the stock market is for financial advisors, the wealthy and the bourgeois, and not a fit hobby or occupation for kings. I hear you are trying to open the Seine to Parisian interests with your little trading company: Its not going to work, although you are free to keep trying.
To Prussia
From Normandy
This trade is very beneficial to both of us. Do you wish to negotiate a trading agreement to increase the flow of commerce between us?
To Brittany
From Normandy
We didn't do anything and you can't prove that we did. And as long as you play nice at our construction sites over here, we will note interfere over there.
(To EQ: So basically my economy didn't change despite the global and regional recessions? Nice.)
From Normandy
Playing the stock market is for financial advisors, the wealthy and the bourgeois, and not a fit hobby or occupation for kings. I hear you are trying to open the Seine to Parisian interests with your little trading company: Its not going to work, although you are free to keep trying.
To Prussia
From Normandy
This trade is very beneficial to both of us. Do you wish to negotiate a trading agreement to increase the flow of commerce between us?
To Brittany
From Normandy
We didn't do anything and you can't prove that we did. And as long as you play nice at our construction sites over here, we will note interfere over there.
(To EQ: So basically my economy didn't change despite the global and regional recessions? Nice.)
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
To Austria
From Milan
You said previously that had your armies been beaten on the field of battle, you would listen to our demands. Well, your armies were forced to retreat from Milano, and have been fought to draws elsewhere, so we are willing to continue discussions for peace, our terms remain the same, free Venice, keeping only a corridor to the sea for yourself and peace shall reign between us.
From Milan
You said previously that had your armies been beaten on the field of battle, you would listen to our demands. Well, your armies were forced to retreat from Milano, and have been fought to draws elsewhere, so we are willing to continue discussions for peace, our terms remain the same, free Venice, keeping only a corridor to the sea for yourself and peace shall reign between us.
Ninja Dude
Sorry, I wasn't listening...
Removing tariffs on imports actually helped Chinese income? Hmmm... Anyways, good update.
From: Kiev
To: The Roman Empire
Your problem with maintaining your empire in the face of many separatist groups is indeed troubling. If it would provide some relief, we would be willing to purchase your Crimean lands. They are full of men of Rus and Kiev, and would be much more eager to cooperate with our government. In addition to any payment we give the Romans, we are willing to assist them in resolving any matters involving separatists within their nation.
From: Kiev
To: Poland
It is good to see that even though you are members of the Catholic Church, you treat your Orthodox subjects with respect. Continue, and Poland will always have friends in Kiev.
From: Kiev
To: The Roman Empire
Your problem with maintaining your empire in the face of many separatist groups is indeed troubling. If it would provide some relief, we would be willing to purchase your Crimean lands. They are full of men of Rus and Kiev, and would be much more eager to cooperate with our government. In addition to any payment we give the Romans, we are willing to assist them in resolving any matters involving separatists within their nation.
From: Kiev
To: Poland
It is good to see that even though you are members of the Catholic Church, you treat your Orthodox subjects with respect. Continue, and Poland will always have friends in Kiev.
thomas.berubeg
Wandering the World
Damn, EQ, no matter what I do, I get negative results... 
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
TO: Venezuela and New Granada
FROM: Empire of Brazil
Your war has gone on for far too long, with too many lives being lost to pointless warfare. I, Pedro, Emperor of Brazil, demand a conference be held with delegates of both sides meeting in Rio de Janerio in the next year to draw up peace terms. Brazilians will not stand for continued warfare on the continent, heed my warnings, peace can be enforced.
FROM: Empire of Brazil
Your war has gone on for far too long, with too many lives being lost to pointless warfare. I, Pedro, Emperor of Brazil, demand a conference be held with delegates of both sides meeting in Rio de Janerio in the next year to draw up peace terms. Brazilians will not stand for continued warfare on the continent, heed my warnings, peace can be enforced.
To: Empire of Brazil, Venezuela, Ecuador
From: Republic of New Granada
We'd graciously accept the Empire of Brazil's offer for peace and will offer the following terms:
1. Peace at borders set before the war between Venezuela and New Granada
2. Independence garuanteed for Ecuador.
3. Non-aggression pact between Venezuela and New Granada for a period of at least ten years.
From: Republic of New Granada
We'd graciously accept the Empire of Brazil's offer for peace and will offer the following terms:
1. Peace at borders set before the war between Venezuela and New Granada
2. Independence garuanteed for Ecuador.
3. Non-aggression pact between Venezuela and New Granada for a period of at least ten years.
No news is good news, mostly.
AUSTRIA MISSES EXPENSE PAYMENTS. Vienna, Austria. The Austrian monarchy, consumed with the need to provide arms and training for fresh forces to fight in the Second Venetian War, missed several key payments for the administration of national territories. This has led to an uneasy situation in Venice, where payoffs where expected and provided, as well as in Austrian Croatia. The move has also caused lending and other markets in Vienna to tremble and the economic situation to teeter a bit with the failure of the monarch to pay his bills. (-2 EP, -1 Stability)
I find this incredibly wrong as the very first thing in my spending orders is to appropriate funds for the necessary domestic spending. In fact here is a quote of my spending orders
At the very least the word mandatory would suggest that it is the "other" spending which I would be deducted from.
Especially in light of this:
@Those concerned in Italy: Your external source of EP did not send the promised amounts. Therefore I have done what I could with your orders, and did not spend into deficit. Whatever orders came first were the ones which received priority when it comes to spending.
In which I clearly place my domestic spending first.
I find this incredibly wrong as the very first thing in my spending orders is to appropriate funds for the necessary domestic spending. In fact here is a quote of my spending orders
At the very least the word mandatory would suggest that it is the "other" spending which I would be deducted from.
Especially in light of this:
@Those concerned in Italy: Your external source of EP did not send the promised amounts. Therefore I have done what I could with your orders, and did not spend into deficit. Whatever orders came first were the ones which received priority when it comes to spending.
In which I clearly place my domestic spending first.
Your fleets have been sunk to the bottom of the sea and Spanish armies are sure to arrive soon. Our armies have been pushed back from the petty defenses of your capital, but they are far from defeated.
@warman17: when I did the math, your total spending for last update came up to only 85, not 95. Yes I did labor over the possible hypocrisy when involving the Italian states, in your case it was an internal error, while the Italians had a rather confusing set up involving routing things from someone through someone else. Was rather irritating, since portions of their orders conflicted with other orders and statements.
Your stats from last turn:
Austria: Warman17
Absolute Monarchy: King Francis (Conservative)
Capital: Vienna
Education: Aristocracy Only
Religion: Catholic Christianity
Manpower: 2,097 (+21)
Economic Points 0 (+85)
Domestic Policies: -10
-Education: -2
-Imperial Administration: -5
-Patron of the Arts: -3
Stability: 8
Issues of Concern:
-Religion in Government (40%)
Army: 24 Infantry Brigades, 11 Cavalry Brigades, 5 Artillery Brigades
Army Quality: 8
Army Organization Style: European Standard 1820
Navy: None
Navy Quality: 3
Your stats from last turn:
Austria: Warman17
Absolute Monarchy: King Francis (Conservative)
Capital: Vienna
Education: Aristocracy Only
Religion: Catholic Christianity
Manpower: 2,097 (+21)
Economic Points 0 (+85)
Domestic Policies: -10
-Education: -2
-Imperial Administration: -5
-Patron of the Arts: -3
Stability: 8
Issues of Concern:
-Religion in Government (40%)
Army: 24 Infantry Brigades, 11 Cavalry Brigades, 5 Artillery Brigades
Army Quality: 8
Army Organization Style: European Standard 1820
Navy: None
Navy Quality: 3
From Venezuela
We agree to recognition of Ecuador and a peace treaty after that, but the Granadans must pay a price to Venezuela for their completely unprovoked and malicious assault upon Venezuela. We demand significant land concessions (though certainly not all the land we control) as reparations for their vicious assault.
We do not feel Brazil needs to get involved as we had already sent a peace offer but were rebuffed by the Granadans. Venezuela was already trying to end this conflict and prevent another.
We agree to recognition of Ecuador and a peace treaty after that, but the Granadans must pay a price to Venezuela for their completely unprovoked and malicious assault upon Venezuela. We demand significant land concessions (though certainly not all the land we control) as reparations for their vicious assault.
We do not feel Brazil needs to get involved as we had already sent a peace offer but were rebuffed by the Granadans. Venezuela was already trying to end this conflict and prevent another.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
FROM: Brazil
Do not think for a moment you can shove Brazil to the side in this issue. We are attempting to bring peace and will step in if a cease fire is not signed.
To: Venezuela and Empire of Brazil
From: Republic of New Granada
We fully support Brazil assisting in the creation of a fair treaty. We will not cede any of our land to Venezuela, as we are already ceding enough by allowing Ecuador its current independence. We would be willing to pay 5 EP in reparations however.
From: Republic of New Granada
We fully support Brazil assisting in the creation of a fair treaty. We will not cede any of our land to Venezuela, as we are already ceding enough by allowing Ecuador its current independence. We would be willing to pay 5 EP in reparations however.
Quisani
Gaming Person
To: The World
From: Abyssinia
We seek to trade with nations abroad and perhaps to serve as a port of call for any naval fleets. Are there any who are interested?
From: Abyssinia
We seek to trade with nations abroad and perhaps to serve as a port of call for any naval fleets. Are there any who are interested?
Milarqui
Deity
To: Maya Republic, United States of New Spain
From: Empire of Holy Spain
Your illegal rebellions must come to an end. The land where you stand is legally owned by the Spanish colony of New Spain, and through it to the Emperor of Holy Spain. You have a chance to choose: either you surrender and be welcomed into the arms of the empire like a prodigal son, or you will be punished like a disobedient son. Either way, you will return to us.
To: All nations in the world
From: Empire of Holy Spain
Any that aids the rebels on the lands of the Spanish colony of New Spain will be considered an enemy of the Empire of Holy Spain.
To: Papal States
From: Empire of Holy Spain
You shall not fear, Your Holiness. This coming year, Spain will help liberate your lands from those that have invaded them.
To: Madagascar
From: Empire of Holy Spain
We are willing to trade with you, but we will not tie ourselves to a potential war for you.
From: Empire of Holy Spain
Your illegal rebellions must come to an end. The land where you stand is legally owned by the Spanish colony of New Spain, and through it to the Emperor of Holy Spain. You have a chance to choose: either you surrender and be welcomed into the arms of the empire like a prodigal son, or you will be punished like a disobedient son. Either way, you will return to us.
To: All nations in the world
From: Empire of Holy Spain
Any that aids the rebels on the lands of the Spanish colony of New Spain will be considered an enemy of the Empire of Holy Spain.
To: Papal States
From: Empire of Holy Spain
You shall not fear, Your Holiness. This coming year, Spain will help liberate your lands from those that have invaded them.
To: Madagascar
From: Empire of Holy Spain
We are willing to trade with you, but we will not tie ourselves to a potential war for you.
