Thank you for your kind advice.
Capto Iugulum: Empires and Nations
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Thank you for your kind advice.
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
To Paris
CC: Other French States, ESP Merchant Class
From Normandy
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CC: Other French States, ESP Merchant Class
From Normandy
On another note, we have unique goods fresh from Prussia and the east! There are no other markets available yet in Brittany, Flanders or Netherlands; Normandy is the way to go! Speak to your local Liason, Ambassador or Merchant to receive exclusive Prussian contacts and low low prices with high high profits!
Lord of Elves
Suede-Denim Secret Police
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From: Swedish Empire
To: Spain
We thank you, for the continued wisdom and grace of your leadership. Any and all Swedish ports in Madagascar (once due process prevails, and they are granted) will remain open to trade, Spanish or otherwise.
From: Swedish Empire
To: Madagascar
We are not unfair. Our demands remain the same, but we are willing to lessen them, should Madagascar come to the table to negotiate, rather than try to twist our arm.
To: Spain
We thank you, for the continued wisdom and grace of your leadership. Any and all Swedish ports in Madagascar (once due process prevails, and they are granted) will remain open to trade, Spanish or otherwise.
From: Swedish Empire
To: Madagascar
We are not unfair. Our demands remain the same, but we are willing to lessen them, should Madagascar come to the table to negotiate, rather than try to twist our arm.
Quisani
Gaming Person
To the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
From Abyssinia
Excellent. We look forward to trading with you. On another note, Would you be willing to construct and sell us a Fifth Rate Warship?
To Oman
From Abyssinia
We cannot help but notice your recent expansion into Africa. Perhaps you need a way station to stock up on goods for your new colony?
From Abyssinia
Excellent. We look forward to trading with you. On another note, Would you be willing to construct and sell us a Fifth Rate Warship?
To Oman
From Abyssinia
We cannot help but notice your recent expansion into Africa. Perhaps you need a way station to stock up on goods for your new colony?
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
I guess it turned out I don't have time for this or any NES. Sorry for wasting your time EQ.
I'm out.
I'm out.
From Venezuela
5 ep does not even come close to cover the loss of life your invasion has caused the Venezuelan people.
And your concessions to Ecuador are concessions for your treatment of the Ecuadoran people, not the assault upon the Venezuelan people. That's the trouble when you fight more than one nation you have to pay for the damages you caused to both.
To Brazil, Ecuador, and New Granada
CC: Anyone else interested
Firstly we had already offered them a fair treaty and they continued the war. Secondly if you want to propose a treaty that justly punishes New Granada as they deserve since they are the aggressors in this war. 5 ep is not acceptable as it does not even come close to paying for the death of valiant soldiers in the defense of our homeland.
We propose they hand over a good portion of the northern coast to pay for the lives and damage they have caused to Venezuela. They also have to release Ecuador, and New Granada needs to remove any claims over those lands in perpetuity. Then we will sign a 10 year peace treaty between all parties involved.
If they refuse to pay via land concessions then they need to pay for the losses they have caused Venezuela, which at cost is 38 ep for all the units lost since the beginning of this conflict. They would of course have to pay at least 40 ep since simply paying cost of damage is not enough, anything they pay above the 38 however would be given as a fund to support the families in Venezuela who have lost members due to this conflict and not go into the coffers of Venezuela proper.
5 ep does not even come close to cover the loss of life your invasion has caused the Venezuelan people.
And your concessions to Ecuador are concessions for your treatment of the Ecuadoran people, not the assault upon the Venezuelan people. That's the trouble when you fight more than one nation you have to pay for the damages you caused to both.
To Brazil, Ecuador, and New Granada
CC: Anyone else interested
Firstly we had already offered them a fair treaty and they continued the war. Secondly if you want to propose a treaty that justly punishes New Granada as they deserve since they are the aggressors in this war. 5 ep is not acceptable as it does not even come close to paying for the death of valiant soldiers in the defense of our homeland.
We propose they hand over a good portion of the northern coast to pay for the lives and damage they have caused to Venezuela. They also have to release Ecuador, and New Granada needs to remove any claims over those lands in perpetuity. Then we will sign a 10 year peace treaty between all parties involved.
If they refuse to pay via land concessions then they need to pay for the losses they have caused Venezuela, which at cost is 38 ep for all the units lost since the beginning of this conflict. They would of course have to pay at least 40 ep since simply paying cost of damage is not enough, anything they pay above the 38 however would be given as a fund to support the families in Venezuela who have lost members due to this conflict and not go into the coffers of Venezuela proper.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Brazil would back up a treaty giving part of the Caribbean coast to Venezuela under the circumstances that a treaty be signed with all parties involved, including Brazil, stating that further aggression by either side would be punished by a declaration of war from Brazil on the offending party.
From: Portugal
To: The World
CC: The Catholic League
With the recent wars and the direction the pope has been heading, Portugal does not see the Catholic League going in the way that we had hoped. We believe it is straying from the true path that God has tried to put us on and therefore can not continue to remain in such a group, Portugal is hereby leaving the Catholic League.
From: Portugal
To: Madagascar
CC: Sweden
We back Sweden in this affair and believe Madagascar's actions are completely unfair and unneeded. Portugal is hereby condemning Madagascar by refusing trade as well as suggesting to other nations around the world to do the same, until they open their ports to trade with Sweden once more.
To: The World
CC: The Catholic League
With the recent wars and the direction the pope has been heading, Portugal does not see the Catholic League going in the way that we had hoped. We believe it is straying from the true path that God has tried to put us on and therefore can not continue to remain in such a group, Portugal is hereby leaving the Catholic League.
From: Portugal
To: Madagascar
CC: Sweden
We back Sweden in this affair and believe Madagascar's actions are completely unfair and unneeded. Portugal is hereby condemning Madagascar by refusing trade as well as suggesting to other nations around the world to do the same, until they open their ports to trade with Sweden once more.
Circuit
Writing Letters
To: Kiev
From: Roman Empire
The Imperator is intrigued by your offer. The Roman Empire will sell these troublesome lands to Kiev for [200 EP] to be paid over the course of five years. We would also desire that a treaty be signed that would guarantee Kiev's support of the Roman Empire in the event of war with an unholy enemy. [See map for territories to be sold]
To: Hungary
From: Roman Empire
Aside from defeat on the battlefield (and Roman soldiers are far superior to Hungarians, take note), the Imperator will sell Serbia to Hungary for [300 EP] to be paid over the course of five years. [See map for territories to be sold]
To: Mamluk Caliphate
From: Roman Empire
We wish to assure the Cairo government that the Roman Empire has no aggressive territorial intent towards the Caliphate with the construction of our border fortifications. They are merely a defensive precaution. We hope that peace will continue between the Roman Empire and the Mamluk Caliphate.
From: Roman Empire
The Imperator is intrigued by your offer. The Roman Empire will sell these troublesome lands to Kiev for [200 EP] to be paid over the course of five years. We would also desire that a treaty be signed that would guarantee Kiev's support of the Roman Empire in the event of war with an unholy enemy. [See map for territories to be sold]
To: Hungary
From: Roman Empire
Aside from defeat on the battlefield (and Roman soldiers are far superior to Hungarians, take note), the Imperator will sell Serbia to Hungary for [300 EP] to be paid over the course of five years. [See map for territories to be sold]
To: Mamluk Caliphate
From: Roman Empire
We wish to assure the Cairo government that the Roman Empire has no aggressive territorial intent towards the Caliphate with the construction of our border fortifications. They are merely a defensive precaution. We hope that peace will continue between the Roman Empire and the Mamluk Caliphate.
To: Empire of Holy Spain
From: Papal States
We thank you for your support in this dark hour.
To: Empire of Holy Spain
From: Madagascar
Let the trade flow between us then!
To: Portugal and Sweden
From: Madagascar
We haven't actually closed our ports to anyone. Sweden is simply insisting upon taking our land for their own purposes, which we will not abide. We have constantly offered to continue trade and commerce, but their insistence on something they do not deserve is making a simple process into a complex one.
From: Papal States
We thank you for your support in this dark hour.
To: Empire of Holy Spain
From: Madagascar
Let the trade flow between us then!
To: Portugal and Sweden
From: Madagascar
We haven't actually closed our ports to anyone. Sweden is simply insisting upon taking our land for their own purposes, which we will not abide. We have constantly offered to continue trade and commerce, but their insistence on something they do not deserve is making a simple process into a complex one.
Lord of Elves
Suede-Denim Secret Police
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From: Swedish Empire
To: Madagascar
We can only respect your... Immutability. In the interest of peace and good will, we offer the following compromise:
1. The Malagasy monarch and her court will guarantee safe harbor to all Swedish ships, their crews, and all goods, produce or other luggage within.
2. The Malagasy monarch and her court will guarantee the use of Malagasy harbors for trade and commerce by Swedish merchants.
3. The Malagasy monarch and her court will guarantee freedom of trade by Swedish merchants, in equality to their Spanish, Portugese, British (etc.) counterparts.
If your intentions are as pure and honest as you continuously exhort, we believe you will find this compromise perfectly acceptable.
To: Madagascar
We can only respect your... Immutability. In the interest of peace and good will, we offer the following compromise:
1. The Malagasy monarch and her court will guarantee safe harbor to all Swedish ships, their crews, and all goods, produce or other luggage within.
2. The Malagasy monarch and her court will guarantee the use of Malagasy harbors for trade and commerce by Swedish merchants.
3. The Malagasy monarch and her court will guarantee freedom of trade by Swedish merchants, in equality to their Spanish, Portugese, British (etc.) counterparts.
If your intentions are as pure and honest as you continuously exhort, we believe you will find this compromise perfectly acceptable.
To: Sweden
From: Madagascar
We accept your proposal, especially since it so mirrors the one we started with, and are glad you have agreed with us.
To: Roman Empire
From: Hungary
The price for Serbian independence has already been paid by the brave fighters cruelly cut down by your armies. Our terms are the same, let them go or face the consequences.
From: Madagascar
We accept your proposal, especially since it so mirrors the one we started with, and are glad you have agreed with us.
To: Roman Empire
From: Hungary
The price for Serbian independence has already been paid by the brave fighters cruelly cut down by your armies. Our terms are the same, let them go or face the consequences.
From: Portugal
To: Madagascar
Seeing as Madagascar and Sweden have come to terms with their problem(s) we see it fit to resume trade with Madagascar and retract our former statement towards the rest of the world, however is something else occurs we will still be backing Sweden.
To: Madagascar
Seeing as Madagascar and Sweden have come to terms with their problem(s) we see it fit to resume trade with Madagascar and retract our former statement towards the rest of the world, however is something else occurs we will still be backing Sweden.
OOC: Even if Sweden goes onto the baby-eating economic standard?
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
OOC: Too bad babies aren't very fungible.
