Capto Iugulum

[Crezth]

To: Guangxi
From: The United Kingdom

We do not understand why the number of students need be limited to 20. In the interests of uplifting Guangxi culturally and scientifically, we will institute for a special scholarship to see to it that some of Guangxi's best and brightest may get a chance to study in Britain.

As for the English language question, we are unsure how we could help.

 

[m.t.cicero]

To: The United Kingdom
From: Guangxi

We are most grateful for this opportunity, and are sure that our students will be excited and up to the task, ready to bring their nation into the modern world!

 

[Grandkhan]

with edited map. All travel is probably going to go by sea anyway.

Treaty of Tripoli
The undersigned, being the Kingdom of Italy and the Empire of Spain, hereby agree that;
i) the territory of Libya, as shown below, is to be sold to the Kingdom of Italy for a sum of 500EP, to be paid over five years.
ii) the Kingdom of Italy agrees that for the duration of the Spanish Civil War, Italy will agree to protect Spain's coasts until the conclusion of the conflict.

Signed, Phillip X, by the Grace of God Emperor of Spain, and Jose Mola, Prime Minister of the Empire of Spain

 

[Nailix]

with edited map. All travel is probably going to go by sea anyway.



Signed, Phillip X, by the Grace of God Emperor of Spain, and Jose Mola, Prime Minister of the Empire of Spain

Signed, Ferdinand II, King of Italy.

 

[TheLizardKing]

Germany would like to note that we will be maintaining the sanctity of the Spanish Monarch's territorial claims, and any nation infringing on them, be it colonial or European, without the express consent of the Spanish Monarch will find itself in a state of war with the German nation.

 

[ZeletDude]

with edited map. All travel is probably going to go by sea anyway.



Signed, Phillip X, by the Grace of God Emperor of Spain, and Jose Mola, Prime Minister of the Empire of Spain

Just do Libya's current borders , it would look much nicer.

 

[Jason The King]

To The Wrongful Usurpers
From Speaker Olof Thörnell of the Imperial Rikstag

We refuse any reconciliation agreement that does not include the return of the Imperial Rikstag to Scandinavia and the end of all proletariat activity.

To Vinland
From Emperor Harald II

Ambassador Swedlund has unfortunately suffered a stroke while visiting relatives in Haraldsholm. Please contact our embassy in Nya Stockholm to follow up on your inquiry.

At Everyone

Please feel free to PM me or contact me on aim (yosemitehker) to let me know any history/current deals/negotiations between your nation and Kongo.

 

[Lord of Elves]

From: Workers Commonwealth
To: Kongo Society
This is irrelevant. You must understand (as we have made clear many times before) that the Manniskorstag operates on the exact same principle and with the exact same procedure as the Imperial Rikstag had. You additionally understand that reversing the Revolution is something we could not do if we wanted. There are elements of the Revolutionary Government and its Manniskorstag that would prefer we not negotiate entirely. We do so under duress, and out of our profound love for the Fatherland. The compromises we have already proposed are regarded universally in our nation as extravagant and extremely generous. We can do no more.

@Jason the King, the head of the Imperial Rikstag has been referred to as Chancellor since its establishment.

 

[SamSniped]

EQ...still waiting for a response from Turkey.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: Kurdistan
From: Turkey

Turkey was not part of the negotiations with the now ended state of Chaldea. We do not recognize those claims, as the territory was Turkish long before your oppression began. We will not give up our lands.

 

[Luckymoose]

Germany would like to note that we will be maintaining the sanctity of the Spanish Monarch's territorial claims, and any nation infringing on them, be it colonial or European, without the express consent of the Spanish Monarch will find itself in a state of war with the German nation.

 

[Gem Hound]

To: All
From: Brittany
Bretagne Arms presents the strongest tank in the world! The Cawr Arfogedig 2!
The most heavily armored tank in existence!
This tank's design is on sale for 100 EP per country with a previous tank design. Contact our government for further details.

OOC:
Cawr Arfogedig 2 (Cawr-2)
Designer: Brittany
Design Year: 1916
Construction Rights: Occitania
Cost: 60 EP, 1 Manpower per brigade
Firepower: 2
Armor: 2
Engines: 2

Restating this deal, as many people obviously skipped over it because it's Brittany.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

To The Wrongful Usurpers
From Speaker Olof Thörnell of the Imperial Rikstag

We refuse any reconciliation agreement that does not include the return of the Imperial Rikstag to Scandinavia and the end of all proletariat activity.

To Vinland
From Emperor Harald II

Ambassador Swedlund has unfortunately suffered a stroke while visiting relatives in Haraldsholm. Please contact our embassy in Nya Stockholm to follow up on your inquiry.

At Everyone

Please feel free to PM me or contact me on aim (yosemitehker) to let me know any history/current deals/negotiations between your nation and Kongo.

To: Kongo Society
From: Vinland

Certainly. We have a duplicate of our message right here:

To: Kongo Society
From: Vinland

As we have for several years in the past, we implore you to accept these extremely generous terms offered by the Stockholm Government.

We say so with the hope that there will be reconciliation within the Scandinavian polity. However, if you are unwilling to change your stance on this matter, then we will move onto a next step, of recognizing the independence of multiple nations with Scandinavian heritage, and working to establish friendly and functional relations between our respective governments.

OOC: Your leader is Emperor Harald II of the house of Holstein-Gottorp, who is the cousin of the King of Vinland, Ingvar. The House of Bernadotte, which ruled OTL Sweden at this time, never arose due to Scandinavia never losing Finland and the lack of a certain Corsican Corporal in this timeline.

For a bit of Royal History, Harald I reigned until 1852, and as he had no sons was succeeded by his daughter Kristina II. Late in Kristina's reign in 1892, Vinland's domestic autonomy, which had grown throughout her reign, advanced to full independence. Preferring to establish a native monarchy (and perhaps wanting to avoid having a senile head of state), a cadet branch of the Scandinavian Royal Family was established as the Royal House of Vinland, adopting the name 'Gyllensvärd'. Thus did Ingvar I Gyllensvärd (the firstborn son of Kristina's younger sister, whose name I unfortunately do not know, or possibly hasn't been written in the NES yet) become the first Monarch to reign from Nya Stockholm.

Meanwhile, Kristina II passed away some time between 1892 and 1900, whereupon she was succeeded by Harald II, Ingvar's cousin. Harald reigned in Stockholm until the Proletarist Revolution, and which point he and his government fled to the Scandinavian Kongo. Ingvar remains a close friend of Harald, and you can read some of their written correspondence here. Both of them were born in the Scandinavian capital, and have been close friends throughout their lives. Harald may be a decade or so older, but I am not certain of his exact birthdate.

Lord of Elves, if you could provide some timelines of Scandinavian Royal History, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll ask for permission to make something up and have you check it over to make sure it contradicts nothing in the canon of updates predating 1900.

At any rate, I'm confident in writing about my own royal family. Our general timeline goes as such:

Ingvar (born 1869) married Lilian (born 1877) in 1896. Their children are Margareta (born 1896), Hendrika (born 1898) and Markus (born 1902). Markus is the Crown Prince of Vinland and heir apparent to the throne, but at age 47 Ingvar's likely still got a few decades left in him.

 

[Blue Bacon 3]

To: World Nations
From: Peru

Peru will construct and deliver the King Juan Battleship to any nation for 85 (10 over cost) EPs, or license the design at 25 EPs.

 

[Grandkhan]

Actually, interesting question; what are the ruling dynasties of the various nations of Europe and America?

We know that Brazil's is 'do Brasil', because they specifically changed it away from the Portuguese dynastic title of 'de Braganca.' We can assume that that hasn't changed much.

So who is ruling Britain? Paris-Burgundy? Spain? Germany? Italy? We can't even be sure of Russia.

 

[Lord of Elves]

OOC: Your leader is Emperor Harald II of the house of Holstein-Gottorp, who is the cousin of the King of Vinland, Ingvar. The House of Bernadotte, which ruled OTL Sweden at this time, never arose due to Scandinavia never losing Finland and the lack of a certain Corsican Corporal in this timeline.

For a bit of Royal History, Harald I reigned until 1852, and as he had no sons was succeeded by his daughter Kristina II. Late in Kristina's reign in 1892, Vinland's domestic autonomy, which had grown throughout her reign, advanced to full independence. Preferring to establish a native monarchy (and perhaps wanting to avoid having a senile head of state), a cadet branch of the Scandinavian Royal Family was established as the Royal House of Vinland, adopting the name 'Gyllensvärd'. Thus did Ingvar I Gyllensvärd (the firstborn son of Kristina's younger sister, whose name I unfortunately do not know, or possibly hasn't been written in the NES yet) become the first Monarch to reign from Nya Stockholm.

Meanwhile, Kristina II passed away some time between 1892 and 1900, whereupon she was succeeded by Harald II, Ingvar's cousin. Harald reigned in Stockholm until the Proletarist Revolution, and which point he and his government fled to the Scandinavian Kongo. Ingvar remains a close friend of Harald, and you can read some of their written correspondence here. Both of them were born in the Scandinavian capital, and have been close friends throughout their lives. Harald may be a decade or so older, but I am not certain of his exact birthdate.

Lord of Elves, if you could provide some timelines of Scandinavian Royal History, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll ask for permission to make something up and have you check it over to make sure it contradicts nothing in the canon of updates predating 1900.

At any rate, I'm confident in writing about my own royal family. Our general timeline goes as such:

Ingvar (born 1869) married Lilian (born 1877) in 1896. Their children are Margareta (born 1896), Hendrika (born 1898) and Markus (born 1902). Markus is the Crown Prince of Vinland and heir apparent to the throne, but at age 47 Ingvar's likely still got a few decades left in him.

Thus far I'm willing to go with what you've said, as we've discussed the difficulty in establishing a historically-plausible royal house for Scandinavia. Empress Christine II's reign technically preceded Emperor Harald's, when she was crowned Queen-Empress (that being the title prior to the political integration of Norway and the Act of Union) after her father Gustavus Adolphus' death. Gustavus Adolphus' reign was troubled chiefly by the First Pomeranian Crisis, when Sweden had delegated the oversight of the Pomeranian provinces to its ally Prussia, and Prussia had betrayed Sweden and used its newly-acquired resources to foment disorder in Swedish Livonia. While the First Pomeranian Crisis was easily resolved by the complete annihilation of Prussia as an existing state, that clearly did not resolve the Pomeranian issue once and for all. Gustavus Adolphus' increasingly-frail and potentially senile state was blamed for Sweden's lack of success in the War of the Catholic League, which he and military royalists always maintained was a victory for Sweden over the Papists of Spain and Rome, but many always felt differently.

When Gustavus Adolphus died, Christine II ascended to the throne. In order to cement Sweden's relations with Poland, who had been its ally in the war against Prussia, Christine was married to the Polish crown prince. The monarchy remained static for some time thereafter, until the Norwegian Union Crisis. Emperor Harald I of Scandinavia was regarded by Norwegian nationalists as the rightful king of an independent Norway, and during the Union Crisis, Christine interceded to keep Norway in the nation and arranged to marry Harald I. Until Harald I's death, Harald and Christine ruled as cogency monarchs, "Emperor Harald I and Empress Christine II, King of Norway and Queen of Sweden".

Up to and after Harald I's death, Empress Christine's reign was marked with the transition of Sweden from an absolute monarchy with all power resting in the hands of the monarchy and a set group of landed and military aristocrats to a parliamentary monarchy, and a unitary, democratic state with the inclusion of Norway. She is revered as a figure of modernization and liberalization, and her separation from the events of recent history makes her similarly beloved by Scandinavian proletarists, who regard her as an example of a "good monarch" as opposed to Tsarist tyrants.

It occurs to me that it is entirely possible, Lord Iggy, that the sister you're talking about was the subject of a failed royal marriage between Sweden and Portugal sometime in the late-1840's/1850's. It's additionally entirely possible that she is an offshoot of the same branch that would later be made the royal family of Pomerania.

EDIT: The liberalizations and the Act of Union made, as I recall, Scandinavia the first parliamentary monarchy in Europe to the exception of Britain.

 

[spryllino]

OOC: Holstein-Gottorp is just as silly as Bernadotte because there's no way that Holstein-Gottorp could possibly have had any importance in the eighteenth century in the absence of Russia.

As for Paris and Burgundy, as far as I can see the throne has descended in the direct male line of the House of Paris ever since 1830, with one other member of the family at any given time holding the throne of Piedmont at the appointment of the King of Paris and Burgundy.

 

[Grandkhan]

Right, so the official name of the ruling family of the FBC is the House of Paris.

I'm kind of tossing up between Spain's ruling family being the Hapsburgs or a native Spanish family. See, in 1830, Spain was officially the Empire of Holy Spain, with some sort of title granted by the Pope himself (considering he took it away after Spain refused to join in the Italian revolution.) This makes me think that the Empire of Holy Spain was some kind of analogue to the Holy Roman Empire. Its possible that the kings of Spain ended up inheriting the title of Holy Roman Emperor, but it slowly faded into insignificance because the Spanish were the premier world power and the only remnant is the papal dispensation of the title 'Holy' and the title 'Emperor.'

Thus, it seems like the Emperors of Spain are Hapsburgs in this timeline. Or am I misunderstanding something.

Honestly, we can kind of choose whoever we want to be royal families. If we want the Avesnes or something to be the royal family of Germany, there isn't a lot to say we can't. History diverged very early here, its near impossible to say with any certainty what could have or would have happened between the POD and 1830. I just like trying to be thorough and I don't like the 'butterfly effect so whatever I want goes' approach.

 

[Milarqui]

Right, so the official name of the ruling family of the FBC is the House of Paris.

I'm kind of tossing up between Spain's ruling family being the Hapsburgs or a native Spanish family. See, in 1830, Spain was officially the Empire of Holy Spain, with some sort of title granted by the Pope himself (considering he took it away after Spain refused to join in the Italian revolution.) This makes me think that the Empire of Holy Spain was some kind of analogue to the Holy Roman Empire. Its possible that the kings of Spain ended up inheriting the title of Holy Roman Emperor, but it slowly faded into insignificance because the Spanish were the premier world power and the only remnant is the papal dispensation of the title 'Holy' and the title 'Emperor.'

Thus, it seems like the Emperors of Spain are Hapsburgs in this timeline. Or am I misunderstanding something.

Honestly, we can kind of choose whoever we want to be royal families. If we want the Avesnes or something to be the royal family of Germany, there isn't a lot to say we can't. History diverged very early here, its near impossible to say with any certainty what could have or would have happened between the POD and 1830. I just like trying to be thorough and I don't like the 'butterfly effect so whatever I want goes' approach.

The Emperor of Spain is fron the family of the Trastámara, direct descendants of the Catholic Kings through their son Juan.

 

[Jason The King]

Thanks Lord of Elves and Lord Iggy, any background helps for someone who is joining an NES on its 175th page.