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Brandenburg votes Vienna
 
We were weighing up the advantages of sending our team to Rio in a similarly apolitical fashion, but the Confederation will vote instead for Vienna.
 
And finally, the most Important nation in this whole wide world votes.

Opsikion votes for Rio de Janeiro
 
Brittany would be the best place for the Olympics to occur in since:
1. We are neutral, and there wouldn't be as much country bashing at the Olympics. We offer this in the interests of the athletes because in other countries, a hostile mob could easily overrun the security due the recent Global War and the populations generally hating each other. In Brittany, the chance of having a mob against a certain group of countries, would be minimal.
2. We will handle as much of the costs as possible if the Olympics come to Brittany.
3. We are the most unlikely country to cause a cancellation of the Olympics since we are neutral and both sides in the recent Global War have agreed on Brittany being neutral.
4. We are a small country, and it would be awesome for us to host the Olympics just this once.
 
Sardinia votes for Brest.
 
After Brittany stormed out of the League of Continental Nations on a whim, the Empire of Scandinavia is not entirely confident that it can handle such a commitment as agreeing to host the Olympics. Would not the Bretons "flake" as the Americans say, and decide that the city of Brest had more important things to be getting on with? Who is to say that the municipal authority might not decide to hold the annual "Brie Festival" at the same time? We do not trust these Bretons and their Maryland-class cheese. :mischief:
 
After Brittany stormed out of the League of Continental Nations on a whim, the Empire of Scandinavia is not entirely confident that it can handle such a commitment as agreeing to host the Olympics. Would not the Bretons "flake" as the Americans say, and decide that the city of Brest had more important things to be getting on with? Who is to say that the municipal authority might not decide to hold the annual "Brie Festival" at the same time? We do not trust these Bretons and their Maryland-class cheese. :mischief:
We left for far more reasons than what we told everyone.
 
Sorry, I'ma drop out. I'll still follow this and will probably join at a later time, but for now I'm out.
 
You dare vote against your ally?

Here's why I voted for Brest:

Brittany would be the best place for the Olympics to occur in since:
1. We are neutral, and there wouldn't be as much country bashing at the Olympics. We offer this in the interests of the athletes because in other countries, a hostile mob could easily overrun the security due the recent Global War and the populations generally hating each other. In Brittany, the chance of having a mob against a certain group of countries, would be minimal.
2. We will handle as much of the costs as possible if the Olympics come to Brittany.
3. We are the least unlikely country to cause a cancellation of the Olympics since we are neutral and both sides in the recent Global War have agreed on Brittany being neutral.
4. We are a small country, and it would be awesome for us to host the Olympics just this once.
 
Austria, of course votes for Vienna. It is a modern, growing true European city, flush with proud Germanic culture.

OOC:

We are also surprised Italy didn't vote for us. :/
 
From: Amadeus Friedman, President of the German Economic League
To: The Papal States
CC: Italian States, Nations Involving Themselves


Ample time has been given, and your hesitance, and complete disinterest in preserving peace in the Italian Peninsula leaves the combined military's of Austria and Brandenburg little choice but to commit to a police action to see that the very fair and reasonable Freidman proposal goes through. You are the only belligerent nation that has refused to give up ground on the matter of Italian Unification, and as such, will experience the prowess of the combined German military. We have informed our policing units to see to it that the proposal go through, and they will assuredly do just that. Should our policing units enter Papal Territory, and find themselves under attack from Partisans, or official Papal forces, they have been given express permission to use any means necessary in protecting themselves, and completing their mission.

At the same time, if our policing units are to enter into Papal Territory, and find an army or government willing to work with us in seeing that fair and honest plebiscites go through, and help administrate said plebiscites, we all may rest easy knowing that blood wasn't unnecessarily spilled. There is no time that is to be viewed as 'too late' for peace. We would much prefer this alternative a thousand times over, yet your silence has been defeaning on the matter, and we are forced to assume. To reiterate, our previous offers for peace without German soldiers still stands, the only difference between then and now is simply time.

We would also like to invite military units from both the Italian Republic and Naples to operate in support of our soldiers, should the need arise. Soldiers from respective governments will be kept in separate theaters of operation, to prevent any possible flare ups that may occur.

Also, we would like to note that as of now, we consider the waters of the Papal States to be blockaded, and the German fleet will treat the area as a war zone.

That is all.

OOC: As has been pointed out to me, Jehoshua hasn't been on the forums for awhile, and I am aware parts of the East Coast have been getting hit with storms fairly bad, so my apologies if that is the cause of the delay. I'm just rushing to figure out what to do with my orders. As I said IC, there is not time that is 'too late'.

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Alas there has been a delay due to unforseen incidents ;)

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To: the Germans
From: The Papal States


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The Papal States has attempted to preserve peace in the Italian peninsula despite your scurrilous claims. It has attempted to create a ceasefire between it and Naples, it has engaged with dialogue with the continental powers over the precise form a division in the Friedman proposal would take.

However throughout all of this the powers have shown a disgusting lack of respect for the sovereignty of the papal states, and the liberty of the Church. Naples, confirming precisely our worst fears has in blatantly aggressive has not only rejected dialogue and our supposed cease-fire, but in rhetoric has proclaimed that it would depose the pope and put someone it likes in power! This "intervention" furthermore is a blatant violation of the treaty of Tullieres, which thanks to Neapolitan inability to agree to a ceasefire is ongoing.

The German states now think it is acceptable to send in forces as if the papal states was a german province! They think it is acceptable to send in forces in all contradiction to international treaties and international laws. This action is the act of an aggressor, and is tantamount to a declaration of war, if you do not withdraw your forces and return to the way of dialogue, then the Papal States will resist through any means necessary whether that be on the diplomatic table or through armed resistance. We urge you to return to dialogue and to respct the sovereign rights of nations. For if you do not it will not be us who is "disinterested in peace" in Italy, but yourself. For it will be you bringing the sword to italy, and it will be you, and your rabid neapolitan ally who are responsible for any suffering that comes due to your blatant hatred and aggression towards the Holy See, the Papal States, and the divine and Catholic Faith! For it is clear, both from negotiations and now, that the German economic league is not impartial, nor is it interested in an amicable and peaceful resolution to this conflcit. Rather all it cares about is the total subjugation of the Church to itself, and its own dominance over a new italian state.
 
To: The Papal States
From: Naples


We never said we would put someone we like in power, all we said was if the Pope dies during the war they can always be replaced AND if we were in control of the Italian State, which will consume Rome since the Pope is not agreeing to the proposal, then we would allow a new Pope to be elected by normal means of electing a Pope.
 
After Reconsidering Italy has changed its vote to Vienna for the Olympics.
 
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To: the Germans
From: The Papal States


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The Papal States has attempted to preserve peace in the Italian peninsula despite your scurrilous claims. It has attempted to create a ceasefire between it and Naples, it has engaged with dialogue with the continental powers over the precise form a division in the Friedman proposal would take.

However throughout all of this the powers have shown a disgusting lack of respect for the sovereignty of the papal states, and the liberty of the Church. Naples, confirming precisely our worst fears has in blatantly aggressive has not only rejected dialogue and our supposed cease-fire, but in rhetoric has proclaimed that it would depose the pope and put someone it likes in power! This "intervention" furthermore is a blatant violation of the treaty of Tullieres, which thanks to Neapolitan inability to agree to a ceasefire is ongoing.

To Papal States
From Russia


Our "disgusting lack of respect", as you put it, is due to your outrageous demands for monetary compensation for, as we have previously pointed out, a war that you started. And the Pope had no issue coming to the League of Continental Powers when you thought we would help you, which we pointed out very early on, we either could not or would not, so we fail to understand why you are so upset.

Your pathetic mewling disgusts us. You are defeated. Your armies are crushed and the people of Italy have shown, once again, that they care not for heavy-handed Papal rule. Why shouldn't a new Pope be selected? The current one has shown a desire to throw away as many lives as possible in order to maintain it's secular power, flying in the face of all the teachings of Christ. Clearly, the Papacy is run by a madman, as it has been for the last 60 years.

You were offered fair terms and rejected them. Now you are unhappy with the proposed counter offer. How much do you think you will hold on to after a (mainly Protestant) multi-national force occupies your whole nation? We're betting the Holy See itself, and not much more. Had you come to terms before with reasonable requests and not excessive demands for [1000 EP], maybe you would not be in this predicament and maybe you would have some international backing instead of the ambivalence and disgust you have generated.

And the German intervention is not a violation of the Treaty of Tuileries, as neither Austria nor Brandenburg were members of the Continental Powers, thus they can do as they please in Italy. And we can assure you, none of the Continental Powers plan to so much as lift a finger to aid the Pope.
 
To: The Papal States
From: Naples


We never said we would put someone we like in power, all we said was if the Pope dies during the war they can always be replaced AND if we were in control of the Italian State, which will consume Rome since the Pope is not agreeing to the proposal, then we would allow a new Pope to be elected by normal means of electing a Pope.

We are wanting to engage in dialogue on the issue, and this is what we have been attempting to do. Unfortunately other parties are not willing and seem hell bent on subjugating the Holy See.

In the League of Continental nations the Holy See proposed the following alternative arrangement as compared to the disgusting violations of sovereignty the germans seek to engage in.

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:The Papal States is willing to cede the same land in Italy that it would of ceded to the Italian Republic as part of the Treaty of Florence, ergo it retains Latium.

:The Papal States is willing to hold a plebiscite on the above cession in order that the will of the people is followed IF it is run by the papal states. Observors acceptable.

:The New Italian State declares Catholicism as the State Religion.

:The Papal States is also willing to declare Neutrality if above measures are met.


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attached to the first principle was the issue of compensation for lost lands, which several nations appear unwilling to consider, presumably due to hatred for the Holy See and a pre-existing desire to see us destroyed. Originally we proposed 1000g compensation in lieu of the irrevokable (and long term) nature of the territorial loss, but this proposal has been reduced to 500 since then. In light of german aggression we are willing to waive compensation discussions for now in light of the above alteration to whatever that proposal is called that Naples insists is fulfilled.
 
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