Cassini map (poles on the equator)

[apenpaap]

After reading this article about what the world would look like if the poles were flipped to the equator, I started to wonder about what it would be like to play DoC on this map. To discover, I loaded up a 3000BC start and fired up Worldbuilder, using the linked article as instructions.

Here's some screenshots of the map:













The poles now lie a little to the west of Equador and in the Bay of Bengal, leaving those areas frozen. To find out more, download the save from the attachment. I'm on 1.11, so it might not work with SVN.

Be warned the map is likely to be very unbalanced and that I may have made some mistakes. Spawning resources and changing tiles will behave as if they are on normal Earth, causing the frozen Indus valley to become desert flood plains at some point, for example.

 

[yurisusuki]

So work fine with 1.11?

Very nice..poor native americans

 

[Sanguivorant]

That looks like an exciting map to play on. The Inca, Khmer, Thailand, Chola, Aztec and India suffer the most from this map. Europe appears to be unaffected, but there's more grasslands in Spain. Northwest Africa looks like absolute heaven; Any civs there would be overpowered. Arab peninsula as well.

 

[apenpaap]

Yeah, it should work with 1.11. Also, don't get too excited about Europe and the Sahara; they're equatorial and mostly covered in jungle. Arabia is very nice, though.

 

[Sanguivorant]

Russia is almost like a second Egypt. Northern Canada as well. Are resource locations changed as well?

 

[Leoreth]

I remember the xkcd article, but I never thought of making a civ map out of it! That's a really cool idea!

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

Beautiful work, and original concept, apenpaap.

This is something I can definitely get behind.

 

[apenpaap]

I've improved the save a bit. Mali no longer has flood plain grasslands, a bunch of resources were places in approppriate locations, the jungles in Europe no longer form walls that separate parts of the continent, and every civ has at least one spot they can actually settle.

Russia is almost like a second Egypt. Northern Canada as well. Are resource locations changed as well?

I removed most of the resources that are now clearly inapproppriate (like bananas in the arctic wastes of India), but I probably missed a bunch. I also added new resources.

I remember the xkcd article, but I never thought of making a civ map out of it! That's a really cool idea!

Beautiful work, and original concept, apenpaap.

This is something I can definitely get behind.

Thank you!

Also, some screenshots from a game the AI ran on its own until 1505:



Europe looks a little odd, and is less advanced than usual for the most part. They reached the Americas very early though, because of the ice around Greenland melting; I'll add in some capes.



Lush west Africa makes the Moors and Mali quite strong.



Ethiopia and Arabia (before its collapse) also did unusually well thanks to good land.



City placement in the Russian desert.



Southeast Asia is frozen solid, and the three Indian civilisations all did incredibly poorly with just a tiny settlement on the west coast. Khmer and Thailand just wandered around before eventually disappearing. The Indonesians mainly inhabit the east of their frigid archipelago.



The Mayas and Aztecs just wandered around for a while and didn't settle, while the Incans migrated to the south.

 

[Sanguivorant]

Allright, I'm hooked. SVN please.

 

[sebzilla]

Very neat. Of course, the actual poles in terms of how the map works are still in the normal place unfortunately. But fixing that would be a crazy effort.

 

[The Diocletian]

Now this is something I want to play. I eagerly await (hopefully) an SVN version.

Nicely done, this looks really fun.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

May I propose a title? DoCC.

Dawn of Cassini Civilization.

 

[apenpaap]

Well, it might work for the SVN version; but it might not. No harm in trying. However, it would be a lot of work to make this map again for the SVN version, so I'm not going to do it.

I've updated the map again, by the way, making Russia more barren (Moscow is on flood plains now), the area around Lake Aral and Balkhash moister, and South-America a lot more pleasant. This all matches the world described in the XKCD article better.

 

[citis]

Load failed... Please do the following modification in order to be universally playable:
*Enter worldbuilder.
*Erase every human (cities, units, everything).
*Save the worldbuilder save.
At this point you can upload the map and I can do the rest. Else do it your self:
*Open the map with a text editor (notepad++ is the best option).
*Open the 3000BC map with the text editor.
*Replace the first lines (from the start until ###Plot info###) from the Cassini map with the corresponding lines from the 3000BC map.
*Save the Cassini map
*Upload the file and...

Voila: The new 3000BC-Cassini scenario is ready and fully playable!

 

[apenpaap]

Thanks, I've done all you asked and it seems to work! I'll replace the save in the first post with it.

I've also updated it further, mainly focussing on resource placement.

 

[apenpaap]

Here's some more screenshots:

Spoiler :

Tropical Europe



The middle-East, including fertile Arabia and cold Persia.





Jungles in west Africa, desert in east Africa





The Amazon rainforest is now a taiga and eastern south-America is very fertile.



Frozen Mexico.





Tropical Alaska, Kamchatka, and Greenland.

 

[ales_]

Can you use spoilers, please?

 

[Sanguivorant]

Mali is overpowered with those four wheat resources. It's a heaven there.

 

[BenZL43]

So.. why the area of Mesopotamia is a desert while the surrounding (Levant, Persia, Syria, Armenia, Arab) is a lush green?

 

[Leoreth]

Actually, it would be even cooler to play on this map. It's a lot more work, course.