CFC Peace Thread

All we are saying is... give peace a chance!

The poster accepts no responsibility for any deaths by shock among the the Civ3 Demogame community resulting from the reading of the above post.

:D
 
Originally posted by animepornstar
there has been too much of the dark side here on off-topic lately.
That was indeed my inspiration for starting this thread.

However, with the exception of 4 or 5 posts out of the 20+ so far, I am starting to think it was a mistake.

I was also hoping to promote some sense of unity, instead I am poked fun at for expressing some sentimentality.

That'll teach me.
 
Yeah, "Can't we all just be friends?". :D I figured this was pretty much after this morning's antics...
 
Might as well count me in Joe

a war might only inspire terrorism, and itll waste a 100billion bucks that the staggering economy desperately needs. The economy is in such a bad shape he is nearly doing as badly as Hoover (including the Depression). And his "double dividend" tax cuts will only benefit the rich. Now Im not blaming Bush, its just that people need to realize that the economy will not be fine, as Bush is saying...
 
I am all about Peace, Joe, and hold to a greater optimism than most when it comes to the near future. I believe the conflicts will pass without death and destruction.

This thread was a good idea. Discuss, debate, enjoy the Peace. Those of you who enjoy relative peace and tranquility in your homeland be thankful; those who serve in the armed forces or live in troubled places feel our hopes for you.
 
I still hope for Peace I still hope this is all one big bluff or that the UN will shoot it down and the US/UK will repsect that. But more and more I see that it will most likely happen. It is depressing the idea of the USA making a pre-emptive strike. What is a pre-emptive strike? nothing but an excuse for invasion. It's sad how America uses 9/11 as an excuse for violence. One tries to remain optimistic tries to hold to the belief that the world has outgrown things like war for resources and land. I still hope for peace but I fear times to come. I fear that the USA has a lesson in humility to learn. Where are the Ghandis, the Martin Luther Kings and the Christs when you need them? The people who take the more difficult but ultimatly higher ground. It's a sad day when America makes a pre-emptive strike. I hope I don't see it.
 
The War Prayer
by Mark Twain
It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the deepest deeps of their hearts, and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country, and invoked the God of Battles beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpourings of fervid eloquence which moved every listener. It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety's sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way.

Sunday morning came -- next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams -- visions of the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender! Then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win for the flag, or, failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation


*God the all-terrible! Thou who ordainest! Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword!*
Then came the "long" prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was, that an ever-merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory --

An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher's side and stood there waiting. With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued with his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, "Bless our arms, grant us the victory, O Lord our God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!"

The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside -- which the startled minister did -- and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with solemn eyes, in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said:

"I come from the Throne -- bearing a message from Almighty God!" The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. "He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd, and will grant it if such shall be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import -- that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of -- except he pause and think.

"God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two -- one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him Who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this -- keep it in mind. If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor's crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

"You have heard your servant's prayer -- the uttered part of it. I am commissioned of God to put into words the other part of it -- that part which the pastor -- and also you in your hearts -- fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: 'Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!' That is sufficient. the *whole* of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory--*must* follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle -- be Thou near them! With them -- in spirit -- we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

(*After a pause.*) "Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits!"

It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.
 
I support war with Iraq. But other than that I'm a peace-lovin' guy!
 
Love is all we need

:D

EDIT: Here is my anti-war sig, in full size glory!

"There was never been a just one, never an honorable one - on the part of the instigator of the war. I can see a million years ahead, and this rule will never change in so many as half a dozen instances. The loud little handful - as usual - will shout for the war. The pulpit will - warily and cautiously - object, at first; the great, big dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, 'It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it,' Then the handful will shout louder." - Mark Twain
 
Originally posted by puglover
I support war with Iraq. But other than that I'm a peace-lovin' guy!
:lol: I guess we are two peas in a pod then.

Originally posted by Chieftess
"Can't we all just be friends?"
Wow. I cant remember the last time I saw you post in OT. :cool:
 
Originally posted by puglover
I support war with Iraq. But other than that I'm a peace-lovin' guy!
It's pretty much the same here. A person has to be as despicable as Hussain to deserve similar treatment. Others don't ignore resolution after resolution.
 
Great post Andrewgprv. Still pondering it.

My personal prayer is for the last minute intercession miracle we need to avoid spilling a drop of innocent blood. You ask in your first post where the Christs, the Ghandis, the MLKs are at this, our hour of need. They are us. I've seen them marching in the streets of my home town and on tv every day speaking out for peace. Not "caving in to Saddam", but not necessarily "winning peace through struggle" either. Peace. Out.
 
Originally posted by Zarn

It's pretty much the same here. A person has to be as despicable as Hussain to deserve similar treatment. Others don't ignore resolution after resolution.

War threads down the hall, doors 7, 9, 13, 23, and 65. This is the peace thread.
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling
This is like a 'glory of soviet farming teqniques' thread being opened by Rmsharpe.

It does not make sense...
Would this be related to the extremely high-grade radioactive material used in Soviet seed dispensers?

The dispensers are now abandoned and litter farms across the former Soviet Union and would make ideal cheap weapons of mass destruction. I hope their government is now ontop of the issue :)
 
Originally posted by Sultan Bhargash


War threads down the hall, doors 7, 9, 13, 23, and 65. This is the peace thread.

Then, I expect you to not be involved in any pro-justice threads against Hussain, or pro- religous threads, or pro- conservative threads...
 
Originally posted by Zarn

Then, I expect you to not be involved in any pro-justice threads against Hussain, or pro- religous threads, or pro- conservative threads...

I had a great response ready and written but I forgive you your ignorance brother. Peace be upon you. :jesus:
 
Originally posted by Sultan Bhargash


I had a great response ready and written but I forgive you your ignorance brother. Peace be upon you. :jesus:

What I said before was that generally I am AGAINST war. This was an exception, but I really don't like it. I know you are trying to make me look like a fool, but that is fine with me. God will sort all out. I do hope that you have a happy afterlife, though. I am serious about that.
 
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