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City State Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by God of Kings, Apr 18, 2017.

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  1. Eliminator_Sr

    Eliminator_Sr Prince

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    Auckland 19 - 3 = 16 (It's a good but it requires Viking scenario so automatic downvote because I'll never get to use it.)
    Buenos Aires =13
    Brussels = 13
    Carthage =17 (16 + 1) If this were a civ ability everyone would be talking about how overpowered this civ is.
    Geneva = 10
    Hattusa = 10
    Kumasi = 16
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 15
    Zanzibar = 18
     
  2. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Auckland =16
    Buenos Aires =13
    Brussels = 13
    Carthage =(17+1)=18 Probably the most powerful of the Militaristic CS's bonuses
    Geneva = 10
    Hattusa = 10
    Kumasi = 16
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = (15-3)=12 I don't find this bonus too powerful, and it's another reference to the Nobel Prize awards...
    Zanzibar = 18
     
  3. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Auckland =16
    Buenos Aires =14 (13+1) not the best amenity CS, but still top 5 IMO
    Brussels = 10 (13-3) one of the least useful ones remaining
    Carthage =18
    Geneva = 10
    Hattusa = 10
    Kumasi = 16
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 12
    Zanzibar = 18
     
  4. Forster

    Forster Prince

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    Auckland =16
    Buenos Aires =14
    Brussels = 10
    Carthage =18 - 3 = 15 Can get by without it.
    Geneva = 10
    Hattusa = 10 + 1 = 11 Still think this one is really useful more often then not.
    Kumasi = 16
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 12
    Zanzibar = 18
     
  5. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Auckland =16
    Buenos Aires =14
    Brussels = 10+1=11 - As an enthusiastic wonder builder, I always try to become its suzerain.
    Carthage = 15-3=12 - I'm not going to waste one district just for this bonus. And when some other civ become its suzerain, you have a problem. And it's Militaristic, weakest CS type.
    Geneva = 10
    Hattusa = 11
    Kumasi = 16
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 12
    Zanzibar = 18
     
  6. gettingfat

    gettingfat Emperor

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    Auckland =16
    Buenos Aires =14
    Brussels = 11
    Carthage =12 +1=13 (I can get by without any CS, but this one makes the biggest impact. As a matter of fact, AI builds a lot of encampments, so if you war and capture cities you will have quite a handful even you never build one yourself )
    Geneva = 10
    Hattusa = 11
    Kumasi = 16
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 12
    Zanzibar = 18-3=15(it's great but overrated. 8 amenities can be achieved with a couple of EC and buildings).
     
  7. miaasma

    miaasma Prince

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 11
    Carthage = 13
    Geneva = 10
    Hattusa = 11 - 3 = 8 (one copy of a strategic resource is not very useful when most units require two - and acquiring your own loses you the bonus i think? furthermore, it's really rare that i'm completely unable to find a resource given how beneficial it is to build many cities. it looks good on paper but has proven underwhelming in most games i play)
    Kumasi = 16 + 1 = 17 (i've had my gold/culture influx go completely out of control solely due to this city state in a large number of games. it's one of few scenarios in which i'd get international trade routes over internal trade routes. completely dwarfs every other city state in my opinion)
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 12
    Zanzibar = 15
     
  8. LethalLeigh

    LethalLeigh Prince

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12 ( 11+1) I like this one I seem to start near them a lot.
    Carthage = 13
    Geneva = 10
    Hattusa = 8
    Kumasi = 14 (17-3) Not as good as the others.
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 12
    Zanzibar = 15
     
  9. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 13
    Geneva = 7 (10 - 3) A solid bonus, but one that can easily be lost through circumstances beyond your control.
    Hattusa = 8
    Kumasi = 14
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 13 (12 + 1) Much larger impact on great person generation than Brussels has on wonders.
    Zanzibar = 15
     
  10. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 13
    Geneva = 7
    Hattusa = 5 (8-3) hard to pick one now, but I think this one is the weakest. At least for me and my small and standard maps on which I usually find enough strategic resources or trade for them. Still nice to have.
    Kumasi = 15 (14+1) still the best and as of yet not in the lead.
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 13
    Zanzibar = 15
     
  11. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = (13+1)=14 I should invest more in this CS in my games. Gaining more trade routes by building a specific district is nice.
    Geneva = 7
    Hattusa = 5
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = (13-3)=10 Don't really care much for this Suzerain bonus. More Great Person points are nice, but I'm never aware of how much of a help they are.
    Zanzibar = 15
     
  12. Eliminator_Sr

    Eliminator_Sr Prince

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 14 + 1 = 15 (Best ROI over the course of a game and encampments + trade route are better than any other district. 50 routes may be overkill but how about 10? I can get there much faster with Carthage.)
    Geneva = 7
    Hattusa = 5 - 3 = 2 (Time for this one to go. I just don't find it that useful except in unusual circumstances)
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 10
    Zanzibar = 15
     
  13. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 15 + 1 = 16 Go go trade routes!

    Geneva = 7
    Hattusa = 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED It's not too hard to get strategic resources
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 10
    Zanzibar = 15
     
  14. Lee Williams

    Lee Williams Chieftain

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 16 - 3 = 13 too hard to keep. AI always goes for it.
    Geneva = 7
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 10
    Zanzibar = 15 + 1 = 16 gold plus amenities.
     
  15. Forster

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 13 - 3 = 10Agree with LW, too hard to keep. AI always goes for it.
    Geneva = 7
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 10 + 1 = 11 I like those GPP
    Zanzibar = 16
     
  16. Planas

    Planas Chieftain

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 10 +1 = 11 Go go trade routes!
    Geneva = 7
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 11
    Zanzibar = 16 -3 = 13 Amenities are overrated and boring.
     
  17. gettingfat

    gettingfat Emperor

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 14-3 = 11 (even in terms of amenities, this one provides less than Zanzibar, so how can it have a higher score?)
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 11+1 =12 (never has problem keeping it, just pre-emp the AIs by putting enough envoys early enough... and go go trade routes!!)
    Geneva = 7
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 11
    Zanzibar = 13
     
  18. LethalLeigh

    LethalLeigh Prince

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 12 (11+1) not as good as Zanzibar, but deserves to be higher than a couple of the remaining.
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 12
    Geneva = 4 (7-3) weakest of the remaining.
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17
    Stockholm = 11
    Zanzibar = 13
     
  19. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 12
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 12-3=9 - Carthage and Geneva are both situational, but Geneva doesn't require to waste a district and it's scientific CS, one of the more useful CS types. Carthage is militaristic, the least useful for me. And if you lose suzerain of Carthage, you have a problem, because you have all these useless Encampents on a places for wonder or some better district... I rather send my envoys somewhere else.
    Geneva = 4
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 17+1=18 - It's Commercial, the best CS type. And I always build Commercial Hubs (and Harbours) in all of my cities, because of trade routes and money. +1 free amenitiy in every city... I love Muscat.
    Stockholm = 11
    Zanzibar = 13
     
  20. Hammurabbit

    Hammurabbit Warlord

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    Auckland = 16
    Buenos Aires = 13 (12+1) Great with extra amenity, even when you don't have an amenity problem.
    Brussels = 12
    Carthage = 6 (9-3) It's a great bonus, but if you lose the suzerainship you have a bunch of unused traders. So you really have to throw envoys on this CS.
    Geneva = 4
    Kumasi = 15
    Muscat = 18
    Stockholm = 11
    Zanzibar = 13
     
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