City State Elimination Thread

[Eliminator_Sr]

Auckland 19 - 3 = 16 (It's a good but it requires Viking scenario so automatic downvote because I'll never get to use it.)
Buenos Aires =13
Brussels = 13
Carthage =17 (16 + 1) If this were a civ ability everyone would be talking about how overpowered this civ is.
Geneva = 10
Hattusa = 10
Kumasi = 16
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 15
Zanzibar = 18

 

[Guandao]

Auckland =16
Buenos Aires =13
Brussels = 13
Carthage =(17+1)=18 Probably the most powerful of the Militaristic CS's bonuses
Geneva = 10
Hattusa = 10
Kumasi = 16
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = (15-3)=12 I don't find this bonus too powerful, and it's another reference to the Nobel Prize awards...
Zanzibar = 18

 

[WillowBrook]

Auckland =16
Buenos Aires =14 (13+1) not the best amenity CS, but still top 5 IMO
Brussels = 10 (13-3) one of the least useful ones remaining
Carthage =18
Geneva = 10
Hattusa = 10
Kumasi = 16
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 12
Zanzibar = 18

 

[Forster]

Auckland =16
Buenos Aires =14
Brussels = 10
Carthage =18 - 3 = 15 Can get by without it.
Geneva = 10
Hattusa = 10 + 1 = 11 Still think this one is really useful more often then not.
Kumasi = 16
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 12
Zanzibar = 18

 

[Kimiimaro]

Auckland =16
Buenos Aires =14
Brussels = 10+1=11 - As an enthusiastic wonder builder, I always try to become its suzerain.
Carthage = 15-3=12 - I'm not going to waste one district just for this bonus. And when some other civ become its suzerain, you have a problem. And it's Militaristic, weakest CS type.
Geneva = 10
Hattusa = 11
Kumasi = 16
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 12
Zanzibar = 18

 

[gettingfat]

Auckland =16
Buenos Aires =14
Brussels = 11
Carthage =12 +1=13 (I can get by without any CS, but this one makes the biggest impact. As a matter of fact, AI builds a lot of encampments, so if you war and capture cities you will have quite a handful even you never build one yourself )
Geneva = 10
Hattusa = 11
Kumasi = 16
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 12
Zanzibar = 18-3=15(it's great but overrated. 8 amenities can be achieved with a couple of EC and buildings).

 

[miaasma]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 11
Carthage = 13
Geneva = 10
Hattusa = 11 - 3 = 8 (one copy of a strategic resource is not very useful when most units require two - and acquiring your own loses you the bonus i think? furthermore, it's really rare that i'm completely unable to find a resource given how beneficial it is to build many cities. it looks good on paper but has proven underwhelming in most games i play)
Kumasi = 16 + 1 = 17 (i've had my gold/culture influx go completely out of control solely due to this city state in a large number of games. it's one of few scenarios in which i'd get international trade routes over internal trade routes. completely dwarfs every other city state in my opinion)
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 12
Zanzibar = 15

 

[LethalLeigh]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12 ( 11+1) I like this one I seem to start near them a lot.
Carthage = 13
Geneva = 10
Hattusa = 8
Kumasi = 14 (17-3) Not as good as the others.
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 12
Zanzibar = 15

 

[Amrunril]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 13
Geneva = 7 (10 - 3) A solid bonus, but one that can easily be lost through circumstances beyond your control.
Hattusa = 8
Kumasi = 14
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 13 (12 + 1) Much larger impact on great person generation than Brussels has on wonders.
Zanzibar = 15

 

[Siptah]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 13
Geneva = 7
Hattusa = 5 (8-3) hard to pick one now, but I think this one is the weakest. At least for me and my small and standard maps on which I usually find enough strategic resources or trade for them. Still nice to have.
Kumasi = 15 (14+1) still the best and as of yet not in the lead.
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 13
Zanzibar = 15

 

[Guandao]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12
Carthage = (13+1)=14 I should invest more in this CS in my games. Gaining more trade routes by building a specific district is nice.
Geneva = 7
Hattusa = 5
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = (13-3)=10 Don't really care much for this Suzerain bonus. More Great Person points are nice, but I'm never aware of how much of a help they are.
Zanzibar = 15

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 14 + 1 = 15 (Best ROI over the course of a game and encampments + trade route are better than any other district. 50 routes may be overkill but how about 10? I can get there much faster with Carthage.)
Geneva = 7
Hattusa = 5 - 3 = 2 (Time for this one to go. I just don't find it that useful except in unusual circumstances)
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 10
Zanzibar = 15

 

[God of Kings]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 15 + 1 = 16 Go go trade routes!
Geneva = 7
Hattusa = 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED It's not too hard to get strategic resources
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 10
Zanzibar = 15

 

[Lee Williams]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 16 - 3 = 13 too hard to keep. AI always goes for it.
Geneva = 7
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 10
Zanzibar = 15 + 1 = 16 gold plus amenities.

 

[Forster]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 13 - 3 = 10Agree with LW, too hard to keep. AI always goes for it.
Geneva = 7
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 10 + 1 = 11 I like those GPP
Zanzibar = 16

 

[Planas]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 10 +1 = 11 Go go trade routes!
Geneva = 7
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 11
Zanzibar = 16 -3 = 13 Amenities are overrated and boring.

 

[gettingfat]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 14-3 = 11 (even in terms of amenities, this one provides less than Zanzibar, so how can it have a higher score?)
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 11+1 =12 (never has problem keeping it, just pre-emp the AIs by putting enough envoys early enough... and go go trade routes!!)
Geneva = 7
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 11
Zanzibar = 13

 

[LethalLeigh]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 12 (11+1) not as good as Zanzibar, but deserves to be higher than a couple of the remaining.
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 12
Geneva = 4 (7-3) weakest of the remaining.
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17
Stockholm = 11
Zanzibar = 13

 

[Kimiimaro]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 12
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 12-3=9 - Carthage and Geneva are both situational, but Geneva doesn't require to waste a district and it's scientific CS, one of the more useful CS types. Carthage is militaristic, the least useful for me. And if you lose suzerain of Carthage, you have a problem, because you have all these useless Encampents on a places for wonder or some better district... I rather send my envoys somewhere else.
Geneva = 4
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 17+1=18 - It's Commercial, the best CS type. And I always build Commercial Hubs (and Harbours) in all of my cities, because of trade routes and money. +1 free amenitiy in every city... I love Muscat.
Stockholm = 11
Zanzibar = 13

 

[Hammurabbit]

Auckland = 16
Buenos Aires = 13 (12+1) Great with extra amenity, even when you don't have an amenity problem.
Brussels = 12
Carthage = 6 (9-3) It's a great bonus, but if you lose the suzerainship you have a bunch of unused traders. So you really have to throw envoys on this CS.
Geneva = 4
Kumasi = 15
Muscat = 18
Stockholm = 11
Zanzibar = 13