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City-state elimination thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Kimiimaro, Jun 10, 2018.

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  1. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 27
    Babylon (Scientific) - 22
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) – 2
    Geneva (Scientific) - 22
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19 (22-3) Can make a different in the early game when you don't have access to iron, which seem to be the most crucial strategic resource. There are other ways to get these, however, including settling spots, conquering a city or by trade. It's for me definitely one of the more useless city states.
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 23 (22+1) Surprised to see it at this low score compared to Buenos Aires. In a direct competition, I prefer this one (I know that I build too many CHs).
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 25
    Toronto (Industrial) – 9
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 25
    Yerevan (Religious) – 25
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 28
     
  2. Maquis

    Maquis King

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    Rochester, MN
    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 27
    Babylon (Scientific) - 22
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) – 2
    Geneva (Scientific) - 22
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 23
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 25
    Toronto (Industrial) – 9 - 3 = 6 (Not as powerful in R&F with production not being as important)
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 25 + 1 = 26 (Enables some great faith buying options for new/conquered cities)
    Yerevan (Religious) – 25
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 28
     
  3. ChocolateShake

    ChocolateShake Prince

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 27
    Babylon (Scientific) - 22
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) – 2
    Geneva (Scientific) - 22
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 23
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 25
    Toronto (Industrial) – 3 (6 - 3) - Think this bonus should've been modified when stacking was removed, too situational now
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 25
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29 (28 + 1) - Cinnamon goes well with pretty much everything! :D
     
  4. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 27
    Babylon (Scientific) - 22
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) – 2
    Geneva (Scientific) - 22
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24 = 23 + 1. Not as good as Zanzibar but amenities are still welcome.
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 25
    Toronto (Industrial) – ELIMINATED = 3 - 3. To get full benefit of this you have to plan the placement of your IZs for it. If you aren't suzerain but planned your IZs out that way, you are losing out on production. If you place your IZs normally but are suzerain you get no benefit. Too hard to get true value out of.
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 25
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  5. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 27+1=28 - Love these loads of bonus production.
    Babylon (Scientific) - 22
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Carthage (Militaristic) – 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - Should have gone before Toronto, IMO. My reasons are same as the last time.
    Geneva (Scientific) - 22
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 25
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 25
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  6. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 28
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19 (22 - 3) I like this conceptually, but the numbers aren't quite there for it to really be impressive.
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 22
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26 (25 + 1) Excellent source of great person points. In the late game, the numbers of extra points get huge, and in the early game, even a few points per turn are enough to net you extra great people.
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 25
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  7. Trav'ling Canuck

    Trav'ling Canuck Deity

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 28
    Babylon (Scientific) - 20 (19 + 1) Really nice for a Culture game if you're being slow in getting your tourists. Helps you keep up with science when you're not ending the game before that matters.
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 17 (20 - 3) It starts to get interesting, now, as all of the remaining City States have circumstances in which they're useful. Playstyle now starts to have a big impact on preferences. Industrial City States are generally of low value to me other than their Suzerain bonus, as I rarely have more than one IZ (if I even build one). And I consider Brussels' the least useful of the remaining Suzerain bonuses, as its only 15% production in a city when you're building a Wonder in that city. Personally, I almost never build a Wonder, as most just slow you down.
    Geneva (Scientific) - 22
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 25
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  8. Leathaface

    Leathaface Emperor

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 28
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 23 (22 + 1) Science is king in Civ VI, an 15% increase is really nice. Plus I like to play peaceful.
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 22 (25 - 3) I very rarely go for religious victory, so if I this city state is nearby it's getting conquered.
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  9. durfal

    durfal The Dutch Daredevil

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 29 (28+1) Great for my Netherlands games and I always play on water maps.
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 23
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19 (22 - 3) Mostly go for Culture or Science and occasional Domination. I dislike the Religious game.
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  10. Maquis

    Maquis King

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 29 + 1 = 30 (Makes all coastal cities good!)
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 23
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 19
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 22 - 3 - 19 (Only good for offensive wars)
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  11. eleven11

    eleven11 Warlord

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 25 (24+1) - Culture and lots of it
    Auckland (Industrial) – 30
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 23
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 16 (19-3) - Decent bonus in theory. In practice it sucks to have suzerainship ripped away and having units unable to heal. Especially in the middle of a war
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 19
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  12. marcopolothefraud

    marcopolothefraud Chieftain

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 25
    Auckland (Industrial) – 30
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 23
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 16
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 15 - 3 = 12 It's sad to downvote my home city, but Industrial city-states are quite weak in R&F, and city projects are mostly useless until the mid and late game.
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 19 + 1 = 20 On high difficulties, you'll virtually be in constant war - and the fast promotions help out so much, even if you don't have Encampments and their associated buildings.
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  13. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 25
    Auckland (Industrial) – 30
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 24 = 23 + 1. Gives the best science for peaceful place.
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 13 = 16 - 3. Its not necessary a lot of the time. Either I'm playing peaceful in the late game and thus don't need a lot of military or I'm conquering everyone, thus have a lot of land and resources.

    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 12
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 20
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  14. Phoenix1595

    Phoenix1595 Lord of the Two Lands

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 25-3= 22 Not a top CS bonus, sorry.
    Auckland (Industrial) – 30
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19+1= 20 Science with my Great Works? Yes, please.
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 24
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 13
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 12
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 20
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  15. SammyKhalifa

    SammyKhalifa Deity

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 22+1=23 Not a top CS bonus, sorry.>>how do you figure? +x% culture is HUUGE.
    Auckland (Industrial) – 30
    Babylon (Scientific) - 19+1= 20
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 20
    Geneva (Scientific) - 24
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 13
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 12
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 20
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 20-3=17--ehh
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  16. Trav'ling Canuck

    Trav'ling Canuck Deity

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    My votes from yesterday seem to have been skipped. Babylon should now be 21, I believe, and Brussels should be 17.
     
  17. eleven11

    eleven11 Warlord

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24 (23+1) - Ok, go get your 30-40 science per turn from Babylon. Agreed, it's a decent CS. Meanwhile, I'll pull 200-300 culture per turn with Antananarivo during the same game period.
    Auckland (Industrial) – 30
    Babylon (Scientific) - 21 - Corrected
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 14 (17-3) - Corrected - Marginally useful and can be abused by France with the policy for production wonder bonus for a huge discount. However, most wonders are chopped if they are important enough.
    Geneva (Scientific) - 24
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 13
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 12
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 20
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 24
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 17
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  18. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Including corrections for @Trav'ling Canuck votes that were missed.

    Edit: cross post, updated.

    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 30
    Babylon (Scientific) - 21
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 14
    Geneva (Scientific) - 24
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 13
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 9 (12-3) Can be nice, but I don't go for super fast victories, so not super exciting.
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 20
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 25 (24+1) with a larger empire, better than Buenos Aires.
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 17
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 19
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  19. Ferocitus

    Ferocitus Deity

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 31 (30+1) I haven't played Australia for quite a while, but it was worth killing any scouts or units that looked like they might find Auckland and start an envoy competition.
    Babylon (Scientific) - 21
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 14
    Geneva (Scientific) - 24
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 13
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 9
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 20
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 25
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 17
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 16 (19-3) Cut your losses and let the other civs fight over it. Forever.
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
  20. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Antananarivo (Cultural) - 24
    Auckland (Industrial) – 31
    Babylon (Scientific) - 21
    Buenos Aires (Industrial) - 25
    Brussels (Industrial) - 14
    Geneva (Scientific) - 24
    Hattusa (Scientific) - 13
    Hong Kong (Industrial) - 9-3=6 - I only build projects when I have nothing to build or when going for Science victory. And since the Royal Society gives me to ability to rush projects with builders, I'm afraid its effect is now weaker than before R&F and simply not very needed.
    Kabul (Militaristic) – 20
    Kumasi (Cultural) – 26
    Muscat (Trade) – 25
    Nan Madol (Cultural) - 26
    Palenque (Scientific) - 17
    Stockholm (Scientific) – 26
    Valetta (Militaristic) - 26
    Yerevan (Religious) – 16+1=17 - Not so soon. This will always be useful for RV, no matter how often you play. And with R&F, religion has become a large part of my game because of the era point stream from spreading the religion to other cities. And having the chance to not have weak apostles with abilities I rarely use is something I really like.
    Zanzibar (Trade) - 29
     
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