No, it's an expansion. It says so
Any guess as to how many new civs. We should create a thread to speculate which ones are missing. Also, I bet there will be some that have not been in civ before.
Civ V - One World Speculation Thread!
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Any guess as to how many new civs. We should create a thread to speculate which ones are missing. Also, I bet there will be some that have not been in civ before.
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Ok, here's a list (based on Wikipedia) of civs that have been in previous titles, but not yet in V.
Hittites (III 2nd expansion)- estimated likelihood: middling
Holy Roman (IV 2nd xpac)- est. likelihood: very unlikely due to Landsknecht being a German UU
Khmer (IV 2nd xpac)- est. likelihood: unlikely due to many cities being in Siam's city list with the same spellings as Khmer's city list
Mali (IV)- est. likelihood: middling, cities have different spellings than the Songhai city list, so there's that
Native American (IV)- est. likelihood: very unlikely due to Iroquois being a specific of this generic
Portugal (III 2nd xpac & IV 2nd xpac)- very likely
Sioux (II)- somewhat likely, it could relate to the vestigial Civil War scenario
Sumer (III 2nd xpac & IV 2nd xpac)- likely
Vikings (II, III xpac, & IV xpac)- very unlikely due to Denmark & Sweden being specifics of this generic
Zulu (I, II, III, & IV xpac)- very likely
daveydave8
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Id be interested in the goths or visigoths but that might boarder on the german swede dane civs
seasnake
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If was wagering I'd bet six (even forty) with the Inca thrown in for those who didn't buy that DLC.
I'd further wager Zulu and Portugal are two locks. The other four will probably be dependent on what scenarios are included (I'm looking at you Huns, you'd never have been added without Fall of Rome scenario).
For a new one I'd bet on Kongo: Great for Scenario with the Portuguese, "One World" implies greater diversity, Central Africa and Africa as a whole are grossly unrepresented.
The unfinished Civil War scenario may actually be finished and if that's so there may be a Native American Civilization, maybe two (one sympathetic to the Union, One to the Confederacy). In light of that I'd say the Cherokee were the most likely new Native American civilization, maybe with the Iroquois on the side of the Union and the Cherokee with the Confederacy. The Cherokee are a highly prominent tribe that a hundred years existence as the Cherokee Nation.
I'd further wager Zulu and Portugal are two locks. The other four will probably be dependent on what scenarios are included (I'm looking at you Huns, you'd never have been added without Fall of Rome scenario).
For a new one I'd bet on Kongo: Great for Scenario with the Portuguese, "One World" implies greater diversity, Central Africa and Africa as a whole are grossly unrepresented.
The unfinished Civil War scenario may actually be finished and if that's so there may be a Native American Civilization, maybe two (one sympathetic to the Union, One to the Confederacy). In light of that I'd say the Cherokee were the most likely new Native American civilization, maybe with the Iroquois on the side of the Union and the Cherokee with the Confederacy. The Cherokee are a highly prominent tribe that a hundred years existence as the Cherokee Nation.
Morningcalm
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I think the Sioux, Assyrians, Goths and other not-seen-before civs would be excellent for "One World" since they really add to the flavor. Also notice how the obscure civ (relatively speaking) like Polynesia got really interesting and flexible unique abilities, units and such, and were a big hit with fans (whereas Denmark was ok, but so very vanilla for Vikings). I also think the Holy Roman Empire and other "empires of various countries" are likely, because of the title.
The Landknecht is a German UU already but that doesn't rule out the Holy Roman Empire. Charlemagne was famous for his use of cavalry even though his use of cavalry is overstated and likely his knights were not anything close to the paladins/cavaliers we're all used to imagining from French romance tales of Arthur and suchlike. Charlemagne did popularize the idea of knighthood though, and is one of the Worthies, so something like this would work:
Holy Roman Empire
Charlemagne, warlike and religious-flavored but not excessively so, and won't backstab. Also likes to install castles in all his cities (historically was accurate for most Frankish rulers).
Missi Domini UA, protective/religious/cultural bonuses, maybe religion spreads faster on roads/lower unhappiness in annexed/puppeted cities/culture creates increased defense in cities,
Scara Cavalry UU—fast horseman replacement with extra LOS and defensive bonuses in cities and forts;
Rathaus UB, maybe like a courthouse that can be built by puppeted cities as well? Charlemagne's own palace is popular today as a rathaus of sorts (Google "Charlemagne Rathaus" and you will see what I mean).
The Landknecht is a German UU already but that doesn't rule out the Holy Roman Empire. Charlemagne was famous for his use of cavalry even though his use of cavalry is overstated and likely his knights were not anything close to the paladins/cavaliers we're all used to imagining from French romance tales of Arthur and suchlike. Charlemagne did popularize the idea of knighthood though, and is one of the Worthies, so something like this would work:
Holy Roman Empire
Charlemagne, warlike and religious-flavored but not excessively so, and won't backstab. Also likes to install castles in all his cities (historically was accurate for most Frankish rulers).
Missi Domini UA, protective/religious/cultural bonuses, maybe religion spreads faster on roads/lower unhappiness in annexed/puppeted cities/culture creates increased defense in cities,
Scara Cavalry UU—fast horseman replacement with extra LOS and defensive bonuses in cities and forts;
Rathaus UB, maybe like a courthouse that can be built by puppeted cities as well? Charlemagne's own palace is popular today as a rathaus of sorts (Google "Charlemagne Rathaus" and you will see what I mean).
Tsuchinoko
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I just wish that 2k would go ahead and make a formal announcement already. Even if they can't give a date for its release yet, it'd be nice to have a couple of screenshots that we could pick apart for information. I'm looking foward to which civs will be included - having some new AI opponents to beat up will freshen up the game a bit.
anandus
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They'll probably come with some nice teaser screenshots.
I had a great time tearing apart the screenshots and info for G&K. It's almost a game in itself
I had a great time tearing apart the screenshots and info for G&K. It's almost a game in itself
TheMarshmallowBear
Benelovent Chieftain of the Ursu Kingdom
They'll probably come with some nice teaser screenshots.
I had a great time tearing apart the screenshots and info for G&K. It's almost a game in itself
Yeah, that was really fun.
AbsintheRed
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I'm not sure if anybody's said this yet, as I haven't really participated in this thread, but One World - if it is indeed the title, and if there will be an expansion - seems more representative of modern history, especially globalization, than of pre-Renaissance times. G&K was artistically Baroque, and somewhat thematically about the Renaissance. It would seem logical that the next expansion would be about the next phase/s in human history - industrialization and globalization.
So yeah, that's my 1/2 cent.
So yeah, that's my 1/2 cent.
Heinage
Khan
I hope they choose February as the month in which they either announce it or at least give us more to speculate about 
fuzzatron717
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I feel these civs should be included.
Portugal
Zulu
Poland
Armenian Empire
Bulgaria
Khiva
Kazahstan or Khazak Khanate
Majahipit
Sumeria
Mughals
Portugal
Zulu
Poland
Armenian Empire
Bulgaria
Khiva
Kazahstan or Khazak Khanate
Majahipit
Sumeria
Mughals
I'm sorry, but we have way too many European civs already. Portugal has a slot IMO, but only because they were a massive colonial power and important in that era. But I would hate to see Poland, Armenia, Bulgaria or any of those in the place of another more deserving civilization
AbsintheRed
Deity
Armenia is a middle eastern civilization though
But at the same time I highly doubt an expansion would ship without any European Civs. Especially if the number is ~9, like G&K. Of course that could just mean Portugal.
I think Portugal, Zulu, and another North American Civ is likely. After that, I have no idea. Goths would be neat, and I think stand a chance at getting in if only for giving Rome Hell. Much like how the Huns are included, yet no real cities or anything.
I think Portugal, Zulu, and another North American Civ is likely. After that, I have no idea. Goths would be neat, and I think stand a chance at getting in if only for giving Rome Hell. Much like how the Huns are included, yet no real cities or anything.
AbsintheRed
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Actually, Armenia is a quite interesting and deserving civ IMO
I can easily imagine them included with Tigranes the Great
From Middle Eastern civs, it would be in my top 5 choices (along with Sumer, Phoenicia, the Hittites, and Assyria)
Back to Europe: There are 3 great states missing from the medieval/renaissance period:
Portugal, Hungary and Poland.
Anyway, I agree with you, and I don't think more than 2 civs will be from Europe.
Portugal is kinda given, there may be another one, but that's not sure either
I would love to see Armenia if they're going to include another "Ethiopia"; a small civ with focus on defense, culture and/or religion. Armenia looks so unique, I bet they could translate that into an interesting civ.
Probably there are more deserving civs, but once Portugal gets in, it's all about regional powers and peculiar civs.
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