You're right, they may only be revealed and not given a FL, but for now we don't know for sure as only at the end of this week we will get the usual what to expect next week. But you're probably right.
If we see 4 or 5 civs in the livestream they will likely want to confirm the additional civs before Tuesday to maximise marketing value? So this next week should hopefully be busy in addition to the livestream. Presumably America and Mexico are there but that still leaves 2 maybe 3 slots.
The Steam news blurb indicated Mexico is the only guide we are getting this week. Thursday is the Main Theme reveal.
The only thing of consequence that I read into any of this is that we will be fairly certain that Franklin will be leading America in the livestream. Mexico is likely to be present as well. And there will probably be several other civs.
And one of the non-America civs will have the mystery leader.
Also, keep in mind that Friedrich and Catherine are not officially announced yet, and Himiko has only been revealed by Nintendo, so this could be any of them.
Only if they were born within the territory of the U.S. Not sure if any other country has ever had such a restriction, but it was a pretty important one for the Americans. Only way to prevent the British from infiltrating and undermining their democracy. I presume this will be hard-coded into Civ 7.
Only if they were born within the territory of the U.S. Not sure if any other country has ever had such a restriction, but it was a pretty important one for the Americans. Only way to prevent the British from infiltrating and undermining their democracy. I presume this will be hard-coded into Civ 7.
Only if they were born within the territory of the U.S. Not sure if any other country has ever had such a restriction, but it was a pretty important one for the Americans. Only way to prevent the British from infiltrating and undermining their democracy. I presume this will be hard-coded into Civ 7.
It would be very weird if America were the only civ in the game with an attached leader. There's no reason to assume American leaders don't work like every other civ/leader dynamic in the game. Which means we're back to Himiko can lead America if you want her to.
Only if they were born within the territory of the U.S. Not sure if any other country has ever had such a restriction, but it was a pretty important one for the Americans. Only way to prevent the British from infiltrating and undermining their democracy. I presume this will be hard-coded into Civ 7.
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I'm aware I'm a bit late on the trend, but if I had to predict Attributes for the civs that are mostly confirmed, I'd go with the following:
America: Expansionist, Economic
- It's an accepted fact by now that the Modern Age is focusing less on the contemporary incarnations of states, so I expect a more isolationist, industrial America instead of the "Leader of the Free World" global interventionist that it became in the 20th century. The Unique Quarter looks like an industrial hub and early America is known for doing a lot of settling, so Economic/Expansionist fits with what we've seen. I'd personally be very happy with this as a different direction from the last game, as the generic government bonus in VI wasn't very interesting.
Meiji: Militaristic, Scientific
- If I was forced to stake my life on a single guess here, it would be this one. The Switch trailer describes Meiji as known for these traits, which really reads as them describing the given attributes.
France: Cultural, Scientific
- It's likely that France is Militaristic, but there's a nagging feeling inside me that the civ is going to have at least some bonuses related to the civic and scientific development driven by the revolution. The "democratization of science" and all that.
Buganda: Economic, Militaristic
- I think Economic is pretty likely here, as the natural wealth of Buganda and the kingdom's presence as a trade hub are pretty notable. Militaristic is due to the state's presence as a military power in the region before colonization.
Mughal: Cultural, Militaristic
- The Mughal Empire did a lot of conquering, so Militaristic is probably in. I'd bet on the other aspect of the civ being a focus on building wonders, tied to Cultural, or a bonus towards incorporating territories, which would probably be through Happiness and thus Diplomatic. I'm leaning more towards a Cultural wonder builder, especially considering it's got two Wonders that could be Associated in the game already. Heck, maybe it's got two! Unique bonus!
Siam: Diplomatic, Economic
- Siam's last appearance in Civ was as a diplomatic power, so in my limited knowledge of its history, I'll stick with that. Economic is because I know that the floating markets are pretty famous, and are likely a contender for the UI. Not very confident, though.
Qing: Expansionist, Cultural
- I'm somewhat confident in Expansionist for Qing. It expanded to the basis for China's modern borders, and China is currently notable as one of the world's largest populations. There are a couple of directions they could take the civ, but personally I would be focused on avoiding the grievances many have with it. Thus, I'm tossing out Economic and Diplomatic, where it eventually failed. A Cultural civ focused on Traditions (synergy with previous dynasty) to highlight the connection with previous dynasties over the connection to the Machu dynasty or with bonuses to great works feels more fitting, so I'll predict something to that end.
The stream's a lot earlier than I expected, so I think we can make some educated guesses about what we'll see.
Devs will almost certainly play as Ben Franklin's America, so we'll see both Civ guide and First Look for them. The mystery leader, IMO, is probably going to be with a civ already revealed or completely unaffiliated. Double ups (like say, Abraham Lincoln) probably won't be on launch so I think that narrows the options if they're civ-affiliated. I don't really know too much about Mexican history, but the thread seems to think Porfirio Diaz is a notable exception to their unique civ unit, but if we were getting a Mexican leader I think we'd have seen them today/this week. Siam has a few options, such as the "father of science and technology" and moderniser, King Mongkut, or we could see a return of Ramkhamhaeng from CivV, although he ruled a lot earlier. Frederick and Catherine the Greats, from the ESRB reveal, could be an easy fit here (I'm assuming one leader makes it but their civ doesn't). They could also go back and add exploration options like Genghis Khan or Lili'uokalani but we might be past them at this point.
Unaffiliated possibilities I think are somewhat likely are Shaka or Simon Bolivar. Bolivar especially fits this game where we don't need a short-lived Gran Colombia for him to lead.
I would be greatly put out if the mysterious leader is another for America, unless they are wholy remarkable. Mere presidents pass like fashions in this land and hardly bring anything to the alloy that Good Mr. Franklin does not. It would be hard to impress me on this.
In order to not reveal the existence of a new Modern civ and sticking with familiar Leaders (except the one revealed), we could have Augustus of the French Empire, Ashoka of the Mughals, Hatshepsut or Amina of Buganda, Isabella of Mexico. I don't see Meiji Japan being in the game yet. So the "brand new" Leader could be one for those civs, but not Napoleon. Probably America (as the continent, not as the USA) related.
The only thing of consequence that I read into any of this is that we will be fairly certain that Franklin will be leading America in the livestream. Mexico is likely to be present as well. And there will probably be several other civs.
My guesses would be French Empire, Buganda, Meiji and Mughals since all of those have been revealed at conventions and in trailers.
It's just a question of who leads what, I suppose.
France is a capstone Civ for Augustus,Charlemagne and Napoleon (and possibly for Macchiavelli and Isabella)
Buganda is a capstone Civ for Hatshepsut, Ibn Battuta and Amina
Mughals is a capstone Civ for Xerxes, Ashoka and Ibn Battuta
Meiji is a capstone Civ for Himiko and Trung Trac
and finally Mexico is a logical end point for Isabella and Pachacuti
so all in all, I think it's difficult to even guess who the mystery leader is. It could be a leader tied to the already revealed Civs, or even to a Civ that hasn't been confirmed in any medium. For all we know, it's Napoleon.
Damn it's gonna be midnight by the time they reveal the theme here. American times are rough for me. Thought it would fall on 18:00 like reveals. I assume it's an evening time in America for the event?
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