Civ3 1.29 beta 2

[AlanH]

Originally posted by nmcul
It didn't work. I updated my OS and reinstalled Civ 3, and the thing is as bad as ever.

Hmmm. You load that .SAV and crash when you move one of the units. I can load the same file and move all the remaining units and play additional turns without problems. So there's got to be some difference between your Civ3 installation/environment and mine.

Did you throw away your Civ3 preferences when you reinstalled it? They are in a file called CivIII Preferences in your Home folder/Library/Preferences. That's about the only thing I can think of that's left to suggest.

 

[Dr Jimbo]

Hi guys, I can't get 1.29b2 to install for the Mac at all. I'm running 1.21 on a 867 MHz powerbook with 256 MB of memory. My OS is 10.2.5.
I can download the compressed file, unstuff it, and I get the installer application icon and all, and the readme. When I double-click the installer it opens up, says 'preparing to install' for a couple of seconds, then a preogress bar appears, fillls up, and disappears too fast to see properly. I'm told installation is finished, but everything is the same as before.
Is there somewhere the installer needs to be to work properly? I've tried it in my 'downloads' folder, in my 'Civ 3' folder where the game application lives, and in my 'games' folder, where the 'civ 3' folder lives. Am i missing something?

I'd really like to get this to work - 'fortify all' and 'wake all' sound like real time-savers.

Thanks in advance for any help ...

 

[AlanH]

Originally posted by Dr Jimbo
I can download the compressed file, unstuff it, and I get the installer application icon and all, and the readme. When I double-click the installer it opens up, says 'preparing to install' for a couple of seconds, then a preogress bar appears, fillls up, and disappears too fast to see properly. I'm told installation is finished, but everything is the same as before.

How do you know it hasn't worked? Note that the Fortify all and Wake all menu options only show up if there is more than one unit to wake or fortify (not very clever IMHO). What version number comes up in the bottom left corner of the screen when you launch Civ3?

One trick you can try is to make a second copy of your Civ3 folder on your hard drive somewhere. When the updater starts up it looks around your hard drive and finds all the copies you have. If there is more than one it should ask you which one to update. Try this, select the one to update, commit and then launch that one to see if it has changed the version number.

 

[Dr Jimbo]

Originally posted by AlanH

How do you know it hasn't worked? What version number comes up in the bottom left corner of the screen when you launch Civ3?

It still comes up as 1.21 - that's why I'm presuming it hasn't worked

One trick you can try is to make a second copy of your Civ3 folder on your hard drive somewhere...

I had a backup copy under another name. I just moved it and renamed it 'Civilization III' again, and the installer behaved just like before. No menu asking which copy to update. So I'm guessing the installer isn't working on my machine. I've downloaded it a few times at this stage, but I'm close to giving up. I'll just have to keep my troops on the move all the time...

 

[thescaryworker]

Thanks Brad! Please post any new updates here.

 

[Startaff]

Brand new user (still in my 1st game) and probably saying old things...
I'm using an iBook 900, 10.2.6, 1.29b2.
Never experienced crashes but, as one of you posted early in this thread, my 1st Great Leader production simply ignored my OK on the unit's name and now I've (surely more appropriate)... Napoleon!
Besides (but I don't know if this is a bug or I'm just post in the wrong thread...) after getting Espionnage and the Agency, still I don't see were is the button/command to Plant a Spy (shouldn't it be in the Info Box, as per manual?)

As a final personal remark: this game is too cool!
I always somewhat hated computer games but now I've been spending all the last two weeks' nights playing and I'm now unable to stay awake at work!
Let's hope I'll become (very) slightly less fanatic starting from game no.2 !!

 

[Dr Jimbo]

Startaff,

to plant a spy, click on the pentagon symbol beside the city name of the city that built the pentagon (in the normal, map screen).

J

 

[Sid]

... and Startaff, get used to being addicted. You have two choices before you: continue to enjoy Civ3 and its many offerings; put it in your Trash and empty it right now so you can go off and find a solution to world poverty, or a silver bullet to cure HIV/AIDS.

Personally, I failed the test. Now, I can only solve major international problems in my spare time. I tell myself that Civ3 is 'training' me for a call later on.

Edit; scratch some of what I had to say about others. Just went through the GOTM thread about what other Civ players do for a living and there are numerous software engineers, real-world engineers and a few biologists working on cures for cancer. I am humbled. We are in good company -- maybe one of us will find the Theory of Everything ...

 

[Dr Jimbo]

Well, yeah, but we're only trying to cure cancer in our spare (non-Civ) time.

 

[Startaff]

My god! I joined a company of zombies!

 

[ejday]

Haven't been here in a while, but had serious brain burn in my real life and needed a Civ3 escape. 1.29 has worked fairly smoothly, except:
1) Quartz seems to be on but it's not checked.
2) Lost the optimal screen displays for 17" iMacs. It's all tucked toward the left with a black band to the right. That makes scrolling a unique experience as well.
3) Fairly smooth and stable, then it crashes on some sort of automove (or maybe it was AI? It all happened so fast, officer!)

Here be the log, matey:
Date/Time: 2003-07-28 20:52:14 -0700
OS Version: 10.2.6 (Build 6L60)
Host: Erik-Days-Computer.local.

Command: Civilization III
PID: 10689

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x033d2fe0

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x002ddfcc in AI_obsoleteDefenders__6CityAIFi
#1 0x002de590 in 0x2de590
#2 0x002e82c8 in AI_baseReset__6CityAIFb
#3 0x002d156c in baseUnitProduction__4CityFv
#4 0x002d20e8 in baseProduction__4CityFv
#5 0x002d8d00 in baseUpkeep__4CityFv
#6 0x003b5554 in faction_upkeep__6LeaderFv
#7 0x00337988 in gameUpkeep__Fv
#8 0x00337c6c in control_game__Fb
#9 0x0030b148 in run__13Civilization3Fiib
#10 0x003c85fc in WinMain
#11 0x001f5048 in main

Thread 1:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0xc0009528 in __ape_internal
#3 0xc0001368 in __ape_agent
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 2:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0x901489f0 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x90180f58 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x94d9c1c0 in _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv
#5 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_
#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 3:
#0 0x9003eaa8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x90232754 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon
#3 0x9023b550 in TimerThread
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 4:
#0 0x9003eaa8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x90232754 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon
#3 0x90247ecc in _Z15AsyncFileThreadPv
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 5:
#0 0x9003eaa8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x90232754 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon
#3 0x90233094 in DeferredTaskThread
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 6:
#0 0x90042688 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8b4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x94d83ac4 in _ZN7CAGuard7WaitForEy
#3 0x94d832b0 in _ZN7CAGuard9WaitUntilEy
#4 0x94d822e0 in _ZN15XThreadedDevice8IOThreadEv
#5 0x94d95a24 in _ZN15XThreadedDevice13IOThreadEntryEPv
#6 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_
#7 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x002ddfcc srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x002ddfa4 ctr: 0x002c04f0 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x033d3088 r1: 0xbffff220 r2: 0x0052c000 r3: 0x072e1510
r4: 0x00000930 r5: 0x033d3030 r6: 0x08a29e00 r7: 0x000001c3
r8: 0x0062c080 r9: 0x00000020 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0x80000000
r12: 0x0052a1b4 r13: 0x00000002 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x07d6a5f0
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0xffffffff r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000009
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00702cd8 r22: 0x07d6a5f0 r23: 0x0000003c
r24: 0x00000930 r25: 0x07d6a5f0 r26: 0x00000002 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0xffffff58 r29: 0x0062c0b8 r30: 0x0062c08c r31: 0x00594160

 

[Brad Oliver]

Originally posted by ejday
1) Quartz seems to be on but it's not checked.

Sounds like you have Silk installed.

 

[ejday]

Originally posted by Brad Oliver


Sounds like you have Silk installed.

I've got a few of Unsanity's great haxies installed, alas "Silk" is not one of them. I do have "TinkerTool" running (2.32), but it doesn't have any of the font options active.

EJ

 

[ejday]

I am a complete dork:

Originally posted by ejday
Haven't been here in a while, but had serious brain burn in my real life and needed a Civ3 escape. 1.29 has worked fairly smoothly, except:
1) Quartz seems to be on but it's not checked.

...And if I'd looked a little more carefully, "not checked" would make much more sense. There is definitely no check mark in the box: meaning that quartz is active. Check the box, that turns off quartz. Sorry to have wasted your time on that one.

However, I did get another crash this morning. Both times the game crashed, my treasury was pushing high limits ($9,000 or so). Probably no connection whatsoever, but it's something I noticed.

Here's this mornings crash, which had different behavior from last nights (an "Unexpectedly Quit" message instead of the other "invalid file" messages):

Date/Time: 2003-07-29 06:47:58 -0700
OS Version: 10.2.6 (Build 6L60)
Host: Erik-Days-Computer.local.

Command: Civilization III
PID: 10867

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x0337afe0

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x002ddfcc in AI_obsoleteDefenders__6CityAIFi
#1 0x002de590 in 0x2de590
#2 0x002e82c8 in AI_baseReset__6CityAIFb
#3 0x002d156c in baseUnitProduction__4CityFv
#4 0x002d20e8 in baseProduction__4CityFv
#5 0x002d8d00 in baseUpkeep__4CityFv
#6 0x003b5554 in faction_upkeep__6LeaderFv
#7 0x00337988 in gameUpkeep__Fv
#8 0x00337c6c in control_game__Fb
#9 0x0030b148 in run__13Civilization3Fiib
#10 0x003c85fc in WinMain
#11 0x001f5048 in main

Thread 1:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0xc0009528 in __ape_internal
#3 0xc0001368 in __ape_agent
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 2:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0x901489f0 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x90180f58 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x94d9c1c0 in _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv
#5 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_
#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 3:
#0 0x9003eaa8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x90232754 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon
#3 0x9023b550 in TimerThread
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 4:
#0 0x9003eaa8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x90232754 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon
#3 0x90247ecc in _Z15AsyncFileThreadPv
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 5:
#0 0x9003eaa8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x90232754 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon
#3 0x90233094 in DeferredTaskThread
#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 6:
#0 0x90042688 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e8b4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x94d83ac4 in _ZN7CAGuard7WaitForEy
#3 0x94d832b0 in _ZN7CAGuard9WaitUntilEy
#4 0x94d822e0 in _ZN15XThreadedDevice8IOThreadEv
#5 0x94d95a24 in _ZN15XThreadedDevice13IOThreadEntryEPv
#6 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_
#7 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x002ddfcc srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x002ddfa4 ctr: 0x002c04f0 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x0337b088 r1: 0xbffff220 r2: 0x0052c000 r3: 0x0616c270
r4: 0x00002bf8 r5: 0x0337b030 r6: 0x07a97700 r7: 0x000001c3
r8: 0x0062c080 r9: 0x00000020 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0x80000000
r12: 0x0052a1b4 r13: 0x00000002 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x07c25450
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0xffffffff r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000006
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00702cd8 r22: 0x07c25450 r23: 0x0000005a
r24: 0x00000bd0 r25: 0x07c25450 r26: 0x00000002 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0xffffff58 r29: 0x0062c0b8 r30: 0x0062c08c r31: 0x00594160

 

[Sid]

ejday, from the above I gather that you run the crashlog via the utility program, 'Terminal' in OS X. Would you mind listing the commands that you input to get the output?

 

[ejday]

I wish I could say I was terminal saavy, but I'm closer to a terminal case. In this case, there's really nothing to it. You don't have to go to the terminal, it will come to you...

Go into your users folder/home/library/Logs/CrashReporter and you'll see a list of crash logs. In there, I found Civilization III.crash.log. Double click on it, it'll open terminal, then I did a copy/paste. I'm sure there's a more sophisticated (perhaps safer and more intelligent) method, but I'm more an end-user kind of guy.

 

[ejday]

Okay, last night, after the first crash, I tried reloading the autosaves to no avail. After quitting, though, and coming back in fresh, it would load fine. Can djou essplain dis to me?

About the monitors: I was trying to get it to run in 1280x1024, which is offered in the monitor selection, top half. When I select it, I get an error: "DrawSprocket can not switch to the requested resolution (1280x1024, 16 bit, 1 something or other)," then it makes a rude comment about my mother and quits. Am I missing some caveat mentioned in an earlier post or is this just a shade of the beta blues?

Something else a little weird: in the Saves folder, all the save icons come up as the little rosetta stone and tag as "Civ III data." The autosaves look like normal map icons and comes up as a normal "Civ III saved game." In the Auto folder, it also generated a "save.tmp" (as Civ III data), and it weighed in at 0 KB. Never seen that before.
...Speaking of memory, those unusual saves would load fine, and weighed in much lighter than the autosaves. To wit:
Lincoln, 1850 AD.SAV (data) @ 196 KB
~versus~
Civ3 Autosave 1850 AD.SAV @ 1.5 MB

Factoid: Brad, I killed my old civ folders and started fresh to commemorate your 1.29 effort. Killed the old preference while I was at it. Reloaded fresh from the CD. Since the 1.29 read me says it'll update from any version, I went from the original install, *without* the 1.17g or 1.21g updates, directly to 1.29f(b2). Don't know if that made any difference, but there you have it.

 

[Boyd]

Brad et al.,

Hope this is a problem that can be fixed here...

During GotmXXI, in the MA, I was not longer able to access the tech tree... each time I did so the game had an "unexpected error" and crashed.

I tried going through my advisor, the civilopaedia, through city production choices, etc. and no go.

What might the problem be?

Also, after a very viscious war(s) in the IA, I found that I somehow had permanent trade embargoes with the my Greco-Roman cousins. this lasted all the way till the end.

I checked with all the surviving Civs and none of them had an embargo with against them. Thoughts?

And finally, and a bit off the thread, if I want to reinstall CivIII and all the Gotm goodies, any tips and how would I install the game on my hard drive so I don't need the darn disc all the time?

Thanks (for your patience!)

 

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by Boyd
...and how would I install the game on my hard drive so I don't need the darn disc all the time?

Create a disc image w/ disk copy, see the mac tech thread. Tao has posted a very good step-by-step.

 

[Boyd]

Thanks