[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[pokiehl]

The Zamburak can also works for a Afghan/Pashto civilization, considering the Hotak-Durrani-Emirate of Afghanistan.

Afghans also have the advantege of be a way better know name that Timurids for the general public.

I would greatly prefer Afghanistan over the Timurids. Lots of great history to draw from.

 

[BuchiTaton]

The Iron Pagoda could be a perfect UU for Jurchen/Jin and the Bannermen UU for Manchu/Qing.

Spoiler IRON PAGODA :

Spoiler MANCHU/QING TROOPS :

 

[8housesofelixir]

I do think the linguistic link between the Jurchen (from the inscriptions in Jurchen script and glosses as early as Jin dynasty) and Manchu languages isn't up to contention, though? Jin dynasty was even noted for having queue styled hair, IIRC. Like, sure, there's not much an ordinary Chinese could do to tell the Jurchen, Khitans and Mongolian people living in and around Manchuria apart, but given that the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese and even Mongolians (during Yuan rule) refer to them specifically at various points, I don't think it's in the same ballpark as the famed "Eastern Barbarians" and of course, there aren't any Turkic languages left in the area so whatever happened after Liao, they probably didn't stick around for long.

IIRC there are some small differences between old Jurchen language and Manchu language, but they are very similar. Anyway I am not the language expert here, that's a question up to @Zaarin.

Also, to my knowledge, the Tungusic-speaking groups are very dominant in Manchuria, every minority ethnic group in modern Manchuria (that is, besides Chinese/Russians/Koreans) speaks a Tungusic language. However these groups are all culturally different, they could just adopted a dominate language as lingua franca of the region. (For instance, the Sibe people, whose languages belonged to the Tungusic languages, are believed to have a Xianbei origin, and the Xianbeis spoke some Mongolic language.)

 

[Zaarin]

IIRC there are some small differences between old Jurchen language and Manchu language, but they are very similar. Anyway I am not the language expert here, that's a question up to @Zaarin.

I'm not an expert on Tungusic, but as far as I recall Jurchen and Manchu are different but very closely related languages.

 

[Birch617]

What would be the most obscure North American (non Native) civ that could appear in the game?

 

[PhoenicianGold]

What would be the most obscure North American (non Native) civ that could appear in the game?

Most obscure is kind of subjective, but candidates might include:

* Vermont
* Suriname
* Many islands in the Caribbean including the Republic of Dominica, St. Kitts and Nevis, and Grenada

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

What would be the most obscure North American (non Native) civ that could appear in the game?

Conch Republic?

 

[Zaarin]

What would be the most obscure North American (non Native) civ that could appear in the game?

Honestly any non-Native North American civ south of Mexico would be pretty obscure.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Conch Republic?

i.e. My house.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Honestly any non-Native North American civ south of Mexico would be pretty obscure.

costa rica though...

 

[BuchiTaton]

What would be the most obscure North American (non Native) civ that could appear in the game?

It should be the Replubic of Los Altos, a briefly independent 19th century central-american nation on the current southern bordering area between Guatemala and the mexican state of Chiapas.

 

[Zaarin]

How about the Republic of Indian Stream?

 

[Birch617]

Interesting answers,okay what about one in current US Territory that isn't native (excluding more known ones like Republic of Texas or republic of California)

 

[TeddyMain]

Interesting answers,okay what about one in current US Territory that isn't native (excluding more known ones like Republic of Texas or republic of California)

How about the short-lived Republic of West Florida?

 

[Zaarin]

How about the short-lived Republic of West Florida?

The Republic of Indian Stream I linked above was smaller albeit lasting a little longer (three years versus two months). The Republic of Madawaska would be another candidate.

Interesting answers,okay what about one in current US Territory that isn't native (excluding more known ones like Republic of Texas or republic of California)

Out of curiosity, what is the point of this exercise?

 

[Birch617]

Idk im just curious about it; you guys know a lot about civs and republics; and i'm not well versed of some things like old settlement or old republics of North America

 

[Zaarin]

Idk im just curious about it; you guys know a lot about civs and republics; and i'm not well versed of some things like old settlement or old republics of North America

I can't see any of them being added to Civ, but the various ephemeral republics and proposed states are an interesting part of history.

 

[Codeword Iroquois]

What would be the most obscure North American (non Native) civ that could appear in the game?

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/north-dumpling-island?

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I can't see any of them being added to Civ, but the various ephemeral republics and proposed states are an interesting part of history.

I, for one, would enjoy playing as the republic of cascadia, in civ

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I, for one, would enjoy playing as the republic of cascadia, in civ

But a coffeehouse unique building is already Austria's thing.