[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[Eagle Pursuit]

Her costume, or lack thereof, could be problematic

The first Civ VI leaderscreen with strategically place foreground props.

Or she could always interact while carrying an armload of fruit.

 

[ButtBillionaire]

Some Civilizations with good or possible candidates for female leaders:

Benin lead by Idia
Taino lead by Anacaona
Austria lead by Maria Theresa
Berbers lead by Dihya
Argentina lead by Eva Peron
Morocco lead by Sayyida al Hurra
Madagascar lead by Ranavelona
Ashanti lead by Yaa Asantewaa
Denmark lead by Margaret I
Kiev lead by Olga
Hawaii lead by Liliʻuokalani
Hitites lead by Puduḫepa
Palmyra lead by Zenobia
Ndongo lead by Ana Nzinga
Iroquois lead by Jigonhsasee
Vietnam lead by one of the Trung Sisters

Am I forgetting some?

Sápmi led by Elsa Laula Renberg.
The Philippines could have Corazon Aquino, but I don't know if she would be the foremost choice over e.g. José Rizal, or if she is too recent, considering that she passed as recently as 2009.

 

[AaronTBD]

Two civs that I think is pretty underrated (Possibly due to modern events) are Afghanistan and Somalia

 

[notNamed]

Himiko is more or less an East Asian Tomyris, so as Empress Jingū.

I'd say she's more like the Trung sisters. We know she existed, because the Chinese had no reason to make her up.
At the same time, we know very little about them. The Trung rebelled, got some folks on her side, declared herself queen, 3 years later Chinese send in an army and end her.
卑弥呼 is seen as the main leader of this 邪馬台国. She's a female, seemingly in power and even sends a few diplomatic missions to Wei. Japanese simply don't have anything more on her and have to try and sift through a semi-mythical account to find who the hell did Wei's diplomats even meet with, establish relations with and described in an actual historical account.

 

[8housesofelixir]

I'd say she's more like the Trung sisters. We know she existed, because the Chinese had no reason to make her up.
At the same time, we know very little about them. The Trung rebelled, got some folks on her side, declared herself queen, 3 years later Chinese send in an army and end her.
卑弥呼 is seen as the main leader of this 邪馬台国. She's a female, seemingly in power and even sends a few diplomatic missions to Wei. Japanese simply don't have anything more on her and have to try and sift through a semi-mythical account to find who the hell did Wei's diplomats even meet with, establish relations with and described in an actual historical account.

The Japanese side of the accounts have an interesting problem of them cannot really match the Chinese side of the accounts after went though several process of mythification or historicization. The earliest point that both Japanese and Chinese records can echo with each other is the 倭の五王 (Five Kings of Wa, presumably in 5th century), but after that the Chinese accounts returned to blank for more than a century.

Empress Suiko, the figure I mentioned above, was the first Japanese ruler that can be confirmed by both Japanese and Chinese accounts; scholars generally agree that she can be considered as the starting point of the documented history of Japan. Prince Shotoku, the famous regent who greatly modified Japanese institutions, also served under her.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Japan also has Queen Himiko, but she predates Japanese as a language and was one of the first Yamato leaders in the islands, so may not have been culturally or ethnically Japanese either.

So, you're saying she can and will be in the game.

Also adding Nanyehi for the Cherokee again.

 

[Txomin]

Speaking of Anacoana, I think the Caribbean is a region of the world that has potential for a civ representative in a future installment of the game.

 

[gunnergoz]

Sápmi led by Elsa Laula Renberg.
The Philippines could have Corazon Aquino, but I don't know if she would be the foremost choice over e.g. José Rizal, or if she is too recent, considering that she passed as recently as 2009.

On the other hand, would Imelda Marcos be a shoe-in, er, shoo-in?

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I mentioned this on the Game mode Speculation Thread but it seems that there is evidence that we might get a free Pirates scenario sometime, it could be in the next update in October. Happy Birthday to me!

Anyway during the June update we got a religion faith rework as well as they added zombies and aliens to Red Death. Soon after we got Ethiopia dealing who is religious and Secret Societies which came with cultists and vampires.

Fast forward to August and that update came with a rework to amenities and the tech/civic tree shuffle. Then in September we got Byzantium who got a unique EC and Gaul which unlocks Apprenticeship when an Oppdium is built (can be good for the game mode).

If the October update comes with a free multiplayer Pirate Scenario what are the chances it might be a hint to the upcoming 4th DLC or any other?

If we combine that with the MoorTires name it seems a little obvious maybe they are leaning into a North African civ with Berbers/Morocco.

Then again Lisbon's suzerain ability prevents traders from being pillaged over water and the Moors did control Iberia for a while.

Either way I was kind of expecting it to be one of those two (Portugal or North African civ) but with the addition of the possible Pirates scenario, it just all seems to coincide together.
I don't know if they would directly have a pirate themed civ in the base game though considering that's what we would get in the scenario.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I mentioned this on the Game mode Speculation Thread but it seems that there is evidence that we might get a free Pirates scenario sometime, it could be in the next update in October. Happy Birthday to me!

Anyway during the June update we got a religion faith rework as well as they added zombies and aliens to Red Death. Soon after we got Ethiopia dealing who is religious and Secret Societies which came with cultists and vampires.

Fast forward to August and that update came with a rework to amenities and the tech/civic tree shuffle. Then in September we got Byzantium who got a unique EC and Gaul which unlocks Apprenticeship when an Oppdium is built (can be good for the game mode).

If the October update comes with a free multiplayer Pirate Scenario what are the chances it might be a hint to the upcoming 4th DLC or any other?

If we combine that with the MoorTires name it seems a little obvious maybe they are leaning into a North African civ with Berbers/Morocco.

Then again Lisbon's suzerain ability prevents traders from being pillaged over water and the Moors did control Iberia for a while.

Either way I was kind of expecting it to be one of those two (Portugal or North African civ) but with the addition of the possible Pirates scenario, it just all seems to coincide together.
I don't know if they would directly have a pirate themed civ in the base game though considering that's what we would get in the scenario.

I don't know if the pirate theme of the scenario necessarily indicates anything, but perhaps some of the mechanics involved in it could relate to a subsequent civ.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I don't know if the pirate theme of the scenario necessarily indicates anything, but perhaps some of the mechanics involved in it could relate to a subsequent civ.

It's definitely a stretch considering we don't know what other things they would do in the free update, but at the same time there are patterns I've noticed.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

I don't know if the pirate theme of the scenario necessarily indicates anything, but perhaps some of the mechanics involved in it could relate to a subsequent civ.

Yeah I'm thinking along those lines as well. While I think Portugal or Morocco/Berbers are very likely if the pirates pack revamps some maritime mechanics, that doesn't preclude other civs like Oman/Swahili, Chola, Champa, Hawaii, Tlingit/Haida, Inuit, Haiti, Cuba, Denmark, Italy, etc. etc.

 

[Cooleatack]

Speaking of Anacoana, I think the Caribbean is a region of the world that has potential for a civ representative in a future installment of the game.

Cuba could be very cool, though Castro is too controversial to be included, which would be largely the point of including them. Maybe with Che Guevara? Though that probably makes it worse.
Haiti could be interesting to call some attention to slave uprisings and the darker aspects of civilization, as the rest of society moves for that as well. Also, if they ever decide to put Napoleon back into the game, it would be a nice foil to him heh/

Other than that, I could maybe see a New Providence Pirate civ if they are releasing three season passes haha. It would be cool although 9/10 civfanatics would be upset this came in instead of X civ.

 

[Txomin]

Haiti would certainly be a solid but controversial choice (though let's be honest all colonial civs are controversial here). Toussaint Louverture is a recognizable leader but unique unit and unique infrastructure might be harder to choose. Cultivateurs were important rural guerillas during the Haitian Revolution so they are a possibility for unit but I'm not sure on infrastructure.

 

[LoneRebel]

On the other hand, would Imelda Marcos be a shoe-in, er, shoo-in?

Ugh, I hate her.

Also she's still alive, I doubt they'll ever use a living person.

Agenda: Will try to collect as many shoes as possible. Prioritizes pastures on Cattle in order to manufacture more shoes.

 

[Andrew Johnson [FXS]]

I think the question: "is X person 1) from close to the present time, and 2) is fascist-adjacent" is probably a pretty good criteria for "we would not like to feature this person in Civ content. (Re: two figures in this thread).

 

[Meluhhan]

to be fair, so did Menelik, Basil II, Theo Roosevelt, Wilfred Laurier and even Gandhi

I'm curious to know what actions of Gandhi you would characterise as "violence against his own people."

 

[Potworny]

I think the question: "is X person 1) from close to the present time, and 2) is fascist-adjacent" is probably a pretty good criteria for "we would not like to feature this person in Civ content. (Re: two figures in this thread).

That gave me an idea, imagine a 180 turn from this rule. How about a Lech Wałęsa leader? He already has been somewhat included in Civ and I genuinely believe that he'd agree to do his own voice acting. Wouldn't that be something?

(note: I'm not completely serious here. it could be fun, but would be an impressive mess. however, i do actually believe that he could be convinced to do voicelines.)

 

[Zaarin]

I'm hoping for Sigismund II Augustus for Poland next time it shows up TBH.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm hoping for Sigismund II Augustus for Poland next time it shows up TBH.

I'm still mystified they haven't used Jan III Sobieski.