Oh, don't get me wrong, my first pick for the next Polish leader would surely be Sigismund II, maybe bringing in a little bit more Lithuania into the civ (the guy even almost split from the Catholic Church at one point, the madman). And Sobieski would go along nicely with some kind of Antemurale christianitatis or even Christ of Europe design however that could be translated into gameplay (also, PIłsudski would be a more interesting option for that, I think). It's just that with its 'interesting leaders' agenda Civ VI is the best installment possible to introduce a megalomaniac Wałęsa. Not saying that it makes much sense, but the idea of his involvement in the game just has a certain appeal to me...
One of the classes I'm taking right now for my master's is on the Protestant Reformation, and, given that Poland is probably the most Catholic nation in modern Europe, I was astonished by how much headway Protestantism initially made in Poland--and not just the usual Reformed Protestantism but even the more radical varieties like Socinianism and Hutterism.
I realize that. It is curious though that overall the percentage of people who identify as Catholics in Poland is higher than Spain or Italy, who we commonly associate them with the religion.
Agreed. Personally, I'd far prefer Kamehameha I to lead Hawai'i. I personally believe she was more accomplished as a songwriter than as a leader, and that she would be best represented as a great musician (and maybe also the Hawaiian themes and ambients being based off her compositions)
I realize that. It is curious though that overall the percentage of people who identify as Catholics in Poland is higher than Spain or Italy, who we commonly associate them with the religion.
I realize that. It is curious though that overall the percentage of people who identify as Catholics in Poland is higher than Spain or Italy, who we commonly associate them with the religion.
Oh yeah being Polish is practically an ethnoreligious thing, in that Polish pride practically implies being Catholic. I think that was a major point of frustration for me growing up, a sort of unsaid presumption that honoring our heritage also required being Catholic (moreso that, at the time, the Pope was Polish). It's a very backwards way of thinking, imo, practically feudal.
Oh yeah being Polish is practically an ethnoreligious thing, in that Polish pride practically implies being Catholic. I think that was a major point of frustration for me growing up, a sort of unsaid presumption that honoring our heritage also required being Catholic (moreso that, at the time, the Pope was Polish). It's a very backwards way of thinking, imo, practically feudal.
I suspect it logically stems from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth being both ethnically and religiously diverse: Poles and Lithuanians were Catholic (or later, Lithuanians were Reformed), Russians and Ukrainians were Orthodox, Jews were Jews (one of the few places in Europe that tolerated them). There were also some very militantly Catholic kings after the Jagallonians, but ultimately the failure of Protestantism and triumph of Catholicism, as it was in many places, was the result of the Jesuits. (Also, you're lucky to have a heritage: though I more or less know my genetic background, I have no personal connection with any Old World heritage. Like a lot of Americans, I have a strong sense of cultural displacement--which is what makes me so interested in cultural tradition in the first place, to be honest.)
I can see opera influence making an appearance in the Italian themes in the Industrial/Atomic era themes, kinda how the Ottoman vocals make an appearance in the Industrial/Atomic themes, and earlier ones are solely traditional Ottoman instruments.
I can see opera influence making an appearance in the Italian themes in the Industrial/Atomic era themes, kinda how the Ottoman vocals make an appearance in the Industrial/Atomic themes, and earlier ones are solely traditional Ottoman instruments.
I think it would be more interesting if there would be opera singing in the Ancient Era without instruments and then it evolves over time with instruments.
I suspect it logically stems from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth being both ethnically and religiously diverse: Poles and Lithuanians were Catholic (or later, Lithuanians were Reformed), Russians and Ukrainians were Orthodox, Jews were Jews (one of the few places in Europe that tolerated them). There were also some very militantly Catholic kings after the Jagallonians, but ultimately the failure of Protestantism and triumph of Catholicism, as it was in many places, was the result of the Jesuits. (Also, you're lucky to have a heritage: though I more or less know my genetic background, I have no personal connection with any Old World heritage. Like a lot of Americans, I have a strong sense of cultural displacement--which is what makes me so interested in cultural tradition in the first place, to be honest.)
Eh, when your heritage is 90% "be Catholic" and 10% potato dumplings, there's not a lot to engage with or be proud of. You're not missing out on much as far as Poland is concerned. I've got smatterings of other European blood, and all of those cultures run ten times deeper, I presume because, as you observed, Poland-Lithuania was kind of a melting pot without a long-developed, unified culture of its own prior to Catholicism. Being wedged between cultural powerhouses like Germany, Russia, and Austria-Hungary probably didn't help matters.
Eh, when your heritage is 90% "be Catholic" and 10% potato dumplings, there's not a lot to engage with or be proud of. You're not missing out on much as far as Poland is concerned. I've got smatterings of other European blood, and all of those cultures run ten times deeper, I presume because, as you observed, Poland-Lithuania was kind of a melting pot without a long-developed, unified culture of its own prior to Catholicism. Being wedged between cultural powerhouses like Germany, Russia, and Austria-Hungary probably didn't help matters.
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