That would be great. However I’m afraid being famous doesn’t ensure that a person would be chosen as leader of a civilization, especially in Civ 6.
I have known about almost all of the civilizations in the game, but I haven’t known about several of the leaders before playing this game, for example Seondeok from Korean civ, never mind that she was only ruler of kingdom of Silla - a country which only later became part of today Korea.
Not to mention compared to games of the Cov series, leaders in Civ 6 are generally less well known compared to leaders of the same civilizations in previous Civ titles.
If we get Vietnam civ, do you think Ho Chi Minh could be a good leader? I think he is the best known Vietnamese person (if you ask an average joe here in Finland at least) and doesnt have negative reputation.
Ho Chi Minh is IMO a better representative of Vietnam than one of the Trang sisters for a million reasons I've already mentioned previously.
But if we're being realistic, it's gonna be those and not him. So we can but hope Vietnam won't get the boot for Civ 7.
Also, Ho Chi Minh does have a negative reputation among people still flying South Vietnamese flags, but that's kind of like not having Lincoln because people who fly Confederate flags still hate him for winning over it.
Ho Chi Minh is IMO a better representative of Vietnam than one of the Trang sisters for a million reasons I've already mentioned previously.
But if we're being realistic, it's gonna be those and not him. So we can but hope Vietnam won't get the boot for Civ 7.
Also, Ho Chi Minh does have a negative reputation among people still flying South Vietnamese flags, but that's kind of like not having Lincoln because people who fly Confederate flags still hate him for winning over it.
To be fair imo Trung sisters are just as representative of Vietnam as Ho Chi Minh. Moreover compared to several other popular/respected leaders of Vietnam throughout its history, Ho Chi Minh wasn't a military commander who directly commanded the troops in wars and conflicts himself. I guess if implemented, Vietnam would be a warlike civilization, because who would play as Vietnam to achieve religion or cultural victory, right?
Hence I guess Vietnamese leaders who also doubled as military commanders would have a higher chance to be chosen, simply because it would make more senses for them to possess military leader bonuses and/or agenda.
I don't think he will appear personally.
Any leader too recent will be somewhat controversial, and he definitely would be the most recent leader we would have.
I think this is out of the question.
First, the memory of the events of the 20th century is still too fresh. And someone will not want his participation in the game for the same reason why I do not want to see Mannerheim in it.
And secondly: he is a communist!
Who would I like to see in the game as a new civilization? Siam!
I am in love with this country, I have been there 3 times, I will definitely return. The role of cultural and religious civization (like Russia in Civ 6 ) would suit her perfectly. Because in modern Thailand, Buddhism and traditional beliefs (shamans, voodoo, sorcerers, pagans) are mixed. I would suggest Siam have bonuses to the pantheons. Pantheons are close to traditional beliefs and in the game it is probably the only mechanic that does not have bonuses for some civilization (correct if I'm wrong). I don't know any other country where everything is at such a high level.
To be fair imo Trung sisters are just as representative of Vietnam as Ho Chi Minh. Moreover compared to several other popular/respected leaders of Vietnam throughout its history, Ho Chi Minh wasn't a military commander who directly commanded the troops in wars and conflicts himself. I guess if implemented, Vietnam would be a warlike civilization, because who would play as Vietnam to achieve religion or cultural victory, right?
Hence I guess Vietnamese leaders who also doubled as military commanders would have a higher chance to be chosen, simply because it would make more senses for them to possess military leader bonuses and/or agenda.
i think what they mean is ho chi minh is better bcs unlike the trung sisters, he was actually ethnically vietnamese and spoke the vietnamese language, something that isn’t true of the trung sisters.
i don’t think Being a communist should or does prevent a leader from being considered. As far as communist leaders go, Ho Chi Minh is far less controversial than basically any potential leader except maybe Thomas Sankara or Julius Nyerere.
Of course, John Curtin was a socialist and is already in the game, so I hardly think it matters.
Siam would actually return from Civ 5. I'd say they could be a possibility if they have a season 2 but if not it looks like the Khmer replaced them in this iteration.
i don’t think Being a communist should or does prevent a leader from being considered. As far as communist leaders go, Ho Chi Minh is far less controversial than basically any potential leader except maybe Thomas Sankara or Julius Nyerere.
Of course, John Curtin was a socialist and is already in the game, so I hardly think it matters.
Probably because the idea of communism is very recent, with all of the leaders embracing it being from the 20th century onward, and it being a touch subject across the world it might be in the best interest to stay clear from any of them.
That being said I wouldn't mind Vladimir Lenin leading Russia because I think that at least a Soviet era leader from Russia would be interesting, and it's the only one I would consider. That being said he'd have to have faith bonuses.
I am mindful of the fact that before the last update, people here were posting, "Of course the leader of the Gauls will definitely be Vercingetorix". Ha ha ha.
So I can imagine Firaxis saying to themselves, "Right, they think the Trung sisters are a shoe-in? Ngo Quyen it is!"
I am mindful of the fact that before the last update, people here were posting, "Of course the leader of the Gauls will definitely be Vercingetorix". Ha ha ha.
So I can imagine Firaxis saying to themselves, "Right, they think the Trung sisters are a shoe-in? Ngo Quyen it is!"
The only reason why them appearing, or at least one, seems plausible is for every DLC cycle/Expansion we've always had 3 female leaders. So far we've only had one with Lady Six Sky so to me it seems very likely.
Siam would actually return from Civ 5. I'd say they could be a possibility if they have a season 2 but if not it looks like the Khmer replaced them in this iteration.
I really really hope for the second season. But I would rather improve the existing one than introduce a new one.
And even perhaps, in addition to the new 8 Civs, I would like as many more new alternative leaders than unbalanced and raw mods: for Russia (Ivan IV), Egypt (maybe Julius Caesar or Mark Antony as the leader of Rome / Egypt?), The Netherlands and Sweden (to become sea powers). I think many Dutch and Swedes would very much like to have a different look at the game for their civs. For Japan (as a truly unique culture).
What do you think about the large number of new leaders?
I really really hope for the second season. But I would rather improve the existing one than introduce a new one.
And even perhaps, in addition to the new 8 Civs, I would like as many more new alternative leaders than unbalanced and raw mods: for Russia (Ivan IV), Egypt (maybe Julius Caesar or Mark Antony as the leader of Rome / Egypt?), The Netherlands and Sweden (to become sea powers). I think many Dutch and Swedes would very much like to have a different look at the game for their civs. For Japan (as a truly unique culture).
What do you think about the large number of new leaders?
I don't know if that many more civs really need another leader.
I agree that Egypt could use one, not that I don't like Cleopatra, but there are a number of choices without it being Mark Antony or Julius Caesar too.
Other than that I think China could use one but I'm hoping Kublai Khan turns out to lead them as well.
I'd argue for another German leader in the form of Maria Theresa, but if there's a second season you might as well make an Austria and Italy pack with her in it.
The only reason why them appearing, or at least one, seems plausible is for every DLC cycle/Expansion we've always had 3 female leaders. So far we've only had one with Lady Six Sky so to me it seems very likely.
I don't know if that many more civs really need another leader.
I agree that Egypt could use one, not that I don't like Cleopatra, but there are a number of choices without it being Mark Antony or Julius Caesar too.
Julius Caesar had an alliance with Ptolemy, a 10 year old kid who asked him to ally him in Egypt against his sibling rivalry, Cleopatra. What was Caesar doing in Egypt? He was looking for help from the pharaoh for more political power in Rome. Caesar had changed his mind though and wanted to go back home. Ptolemy threated to kill him if he left so he had no choice and ally up with Ptolemy for his life. I brought this up because Ptolemy was a kid. There have been kid rulers in the world and civ has had Alexander the Great as one of them in civ 5.
So the game mode is "alternate economy." People are expecting something along the lines of corporations-lite or economic victory.
As for the new district, I couldn't begin to guess. Normally I would have expected something like a consumer district with malls, dance clubs, theme parks, etc. But we got the water park and the upgrades to the neighborhood, so I don't really see much space for that anymore.
Today I've been ruminating about how great a Cherokee civ would be. They had a pretty clearly defined nation for some time prior to relocation, and just recently prevailed in acquiring the largest collective tribal lands in the country. If you grant them representing most of Dixie and Texlahoma, they are actually the perfect response to the frequent requests for a confederacy civ, representing effectively the same territory with a much more established and enduring culture, while completely invalidating lost causers and low key supremacists.
Splendid. Let's also have George Washington lead the Iroquois/America, Otto von Bismarck lead the French/Germans, and Itō Hirobumi lead Korea/Japan. What could possibly go wrong?
As for the new district, I couldn't begin to guess. Normally I would have expected something like a consumer district with malls, dance clubs, theme parks, etc. But we got the water park and the upgrades to the neighborhood, so I don't really see much space for that anymore.
I can possibly see something similar if they focus a district solely around tourism without making it feel like another amenity district. That being said it sounds like something that the Water Park should have been.
Splendid. Let's also have George Washington lead the Iroquois/America, Otto von Bismarck lead the French/Germans, and Itō Hirobumi lead Korea/Japan. What could possibly go wrong?
Splendid. Let's also have George Washington lead the Iroquois/America, Otto von Bismarck lead the French/Germans, and Itō Hirobumi lead Korea/Japan. What could possibly go wrong?
IF anybody felt a pressing need for another Non-Egyptian Egyptian Leader, my suggestion (and it would have to be typed, because it's hard to talk with my tongue so firmly in cheek) would be Ptolemy Lagus, the founder of the Ptolemaic Dynasty and one of Alexander of Macedon's right-hand men (and possibly his half-brother, Alexander's father Phillip being, shall we say, more enthusiastic than selective in his bed companions)
One could even, without stretching the definitions too much, put him as a potential Alternate Leader for either Macedon or Egypt, since like all the other Diadochi he was competing for control of the Macedonian State after Alxander died, but having more sense than the others, decided to grab what was easily defended - namely Egypt - instead of trying to hold the entire Middle East, Greece, Macedonia, or Bactria (modern Afghanistan, approximately, and as many since have discovered, not an easy place to hold at all)
Splendid. Let's also have George Washington lead the Iroquois/America, Otto von Bismarck lead the French/Germans, and Itō Hirobumi lead Korea/Japan. What could possibly go wrong?
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