[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[blackcatatonic]

An apothecary like I mentioned would work in Classical era.

I'm not sure if it would come as early as the Classical era if there are only two buildings, though. I think a hospital would work well in the Modern or Industrial era, so the first building might then come in the Renaissance or even Industrial era. So I was thinking of earlier precursors of modern hospitals as we know them today (though even in the medieval period and earlier, hospitals existed). Perhaps a doctors' college or medical school?

ETA: Apothecaries would be interesting but I feel a bit like it would be like adding a butcher's shop as a building. They were pretty ubiquitous, and Civ buildings tend more to reflect larger institutions or buildings you'd only get a handful of in a city.

If it's not up by 1:30 Central/2:30 Eastern then I think the reveal is tomorrow

They have never IIRC posted a First Look this late in the day, so I think we're looking at tomorrow at the earliest unfortunately.

 

[Datgingah]

They have never IIRC posted a First Look this late in the day, so I think we're looking at tomorrow at the earliest unfortunately.

They also haven't done a season pass before so they're clearly willing to change patterns. So while I agree it is unlikely, it is not possible to rule out.

 

[blackcatatonic]

They also haven't done a season pass before so they're clearly willing to change patterns. So while I agree it is unlikely, it is not possible to rule out.

Very true, and indeed they have never launched new content while in lockdown before. I'm just trying to help manage people's expectations

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I'm not sure if it would come as early as the Classical era if there are only two buildings, though. I think a hospital would work well in the Modern or Industrial era, so the first building might then come in the Renaissance or even Industrial era. So I was thinking of earlier precursors of modern hospitals as we know them today (though even in the medieval period and earlier, hospitals existed). Perhaps a doctor's college or medical school?

Yeah modern hospitals came about in the age of Enlightenment which would put it at Late Renaissance/Industrial in game. It will probably come at Sanitation though. I could also see the Hospital being the first building and later needing a health clinic in the Modern era.

Ideally an apothecary, hospital, health clinic would work but it looks like that's not going to happen.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm not sure if it would come as early as the Classical era if there are only two buildings, though. I think a hospital would work well in the Modern or Industrial era, so the first building might then come in the Renaissance or even Industrial era. So I was thinking of earlier precursors of modern hospitals as we know them today (though even in the medieval period and earlier, hospitals existed). Perhaps a doctors' college or medical school?

ETA: Apothecaries would be interesting but I feel a bit like it would be like adding a butcher's shop as a building. They were pretty ubiquitous, and Civ buildings tend more to reflect larger institutions or buildings you'd only get a handful of in a city.


They have never IIRC posted a First Look this late in the day, so I think we're looking at tomorrow at the earliest unfortunately.

Germany FL was released in the middle of the night US time during Gamescom. Kongo FL came out on a Saturday evening during another con. Korea FL was released in SK first before it was released everywhere else.

 

[Laurana Kanan]

They also haven't done a season pass before so they're clearly willing to change patterns.

They have back in 2016 with the initial game release that offered 4 future DLCs (later upped to 6) + bonus early access to Aztecs.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

ETA: Apothecaries would be interesting but I feel a bit like it would be like adding a butcher's shop as a building. They were pretty ubiquitous, and Civ buildings tend more to reflect larger institutions or buildings you'd only get a handful of in a city.

Eh, not the first tier building for districts. Between the shrine, barracks, market, and workshop (and maybe the arena and library if we're generous), I think the district model actually prioritizes an ubiquitous building for the first upgrade. Apothecary would fit right in imo.

 

[Datgingah]

They have back in 2016 with the initial game release that offered 4 future DLCs (later upped to 6) + bonus early access to Aztecs.

Wasn't that more a pre-order bonus then season pass?

 

[Kwami]

Wasn't that more a pre-order bonus then season pass?

Early access to the Aztecs was a pre-order bonus. The rest was the "deluxe edition", which was functionally the same as a season pass.

 

[Laurana Kanan]

Wasn't that more a pre-order bonus then season pass?

The early access part was, but you could still buy the season pass/deluxe version after the initial release.

 

[Jeppetto]

The same way they always have? (Don't ask me what that is. I never played TSL before Civ6, and very, very rarely with Civ6. ) Presumably the Ottomans would start in Asia Minor and Byzantium in Greece. I mean, starting in the Balkans would already look pretty ugly on Firaxis' TSL map: Macedon, Athens, and Sparta must start right on top of each other, with Hungary, Poland, Russia, Germany, and Phoenicia all breathing down their necks.

As a TSL map Connoisseour who likes to watch the cities flop down, let me tell you, playing TSL Europe and picking Gorgo, Pericles and Alexander is hella funny. Athenians quickly realize they are clutched between two war nations and Pericles' peaceful jibberish won't help them so they overthow him and then it's staring match between Gorgo and Alexander about who takes the city and it either keeps changing overlord every week or just eventually remains Free City with high Loyalty embracing their new anarchic lifestyle.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

ETA: Apothecaries would be interesting but I feel a bit like it would be like adding a butcher's shop as a building. They were pretty ubiquitous, and Civ buildings tend more to reflect larger institutions or buildings you'd only get a handful of in a city.

They've appeared as Persia's unique building in Civ 4, so there is some precedence of it being in Civ before.
Plus shrines, temples and markets can be found everywhere in cities so I don't think having one apothecary building is a problem.

 

[Zaarin]

it does not - but to be fair, I was in bed and was just about to put my phone away when the announcement popped up, so Firaxis almost got away with it.

And they would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids and your dumb dog!

I wonder if he’s less likely, being mostly redundant with Genghis. Maybe I don’t know my history well enough, but they seem largely interchangeable from a thematic standpoint. Both would fill the warmonger role.

Personally I associate Kublai Khan with trade and cultural exchange, not his (mostly unsuccessful) military exploits. I'd expect Kublai to represent a more economic/cultural Mongolia than his hyper-aggressive grandfather. (Personally I'd love to see his mother Sorghaghtani Beki, who was a remarkable individual and served as regent of the empire on her son's behalf during his military expeditions. Plus she'd be the only Nestorian leader in the game.)

Ethiopia Finally!
Another religion focused civ. and they gonna be Judaism founder (Actually it is Hebrews who founded it, but Ethiopia practiced this religion for so many years until Christian Missionaries created their unique Christian Church there.

I'd be shocked if they didn't go with an Orthodox ruler of Ethiopia. (I think it's long overdue the game adds Oriental Orthodoxy, but good news: there's a mod for that!)

 

[Thenewwwguy]

And they would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids and your dumb dog!


Personally I associate Kublai Khan with trade and cultural exchange, not his (mostly unsuccessful) military exploits. I'd expect Kublai to represent a more economic/cultural Mongolia than his hyper-aggressive grandfather. (Personally I'd love to see his mother Sorghaghtani Beki, who was a remarkable individual and served as regent of the empire on her son's behalf during his military expeditions. Plus she'd be the only Nestorian leader in the game.)


I'd be shocked if they didn't go with an Orthodox ruler of Ethiopia. (I think it's long overdue the game adds Oriental Orthodoxy, but good news: there's a mod for that!)

I know they did Selassie in Civ 5 but I’d like to see him again, if not Menelik II, who somehow hasn’t appeared before.

 

[Zaarin]

I know they did Selassie in Civ 5 but I’d like to see him again, if not Menelik II, who somehow hasn’t appeared before.

I'm hoping it's not Selassie again. Zar'a Ya'qob has my vote, but I know a lot of people are hoping for Menelik II.

 

[Jeppetto]

Ah, but what if governors ARE secret societies? You know, that thing them all being Liangs, Pingalas, etc. - such a giveaway.
What if now one of them is the ringleader and if the world fails to figure out which one it is and act in time, they activate their secret plan, and, for example, all the cities, with, say, Victors, secede from their nations and form a new superpower, with a secret superweapon?

You know what, Reyna always looks like SHE is the leader instead of me. That face thirsty for total control over the world.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I'm hoping it's not Selassie again. Zar'a Ya'qob has my vote, but I know a lot of people are hoping for Menelik II.

How can you not want the messiah in civ smh

 

[Zaarin]

How can you not want the messiah in civ smh

Because He didn't rule an earthly kingdom, much to the disappointment of His followers. As for Selassie, he's just kinda boring.

 

[Lord Lakely]

I'm hoping it's not Selassie again. Zar'a Ya'qob has my vote, but I know a lot of people are hoping for Menelik II.

With Secret Societies Mode being included and its supposed impact on diplomacy and religion being included in the pack, my money would be on Menelik II (or his wife, Taytu Betul)

 

[bbbt]

Personally I associate Kublai Khan with trade and cultural exchange, not his (mostly unsuccessful) military exploits. I'd expect Kublai to represent a more economic/cultural Mongolia than his hyper-aggressive grandfather. (Personally I'd love to see his mother Sorghaghtani Beki, who was a remarkable individual and served as regent of the empire on her son's behalf during his military expeditions. Plus she'd be the only Nestorian leader in the game.)

The biggest issue I see with Kublai is the rest of Mongolia would still be a very calvary domination civ even with a different LUA. They'd have to lean hard on something with maybe trading posts and visibility to have mesh the the UA. Otherwise it seems like it might be a bit of an awkward combo in terms of game mechanics.