[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[PhoenicianGold]

I think that whatever North African civ we're getting, it likely isn't going to be a desert-oriented commerce civ like Mali. I don't really think domination fits either. The Numidians/Mauri/Berbers mostly engaged in conquest on behalf of whichever empire paid them. Like Carthage, Rome, Byzantines, or the Caliphate.

I’d imagine the Berbers would most likely be a land Norway. Pillaging rather than coastal raids, and maybe if we’re lucky they’ll get access to the Barbary Corsair too (it would be interesting for civ’s to share a UU, and Ottomans have another UU also so it wouldn’t compromise their differentiation. If the berbers also got a second UU, specifically Numidian cavalry or something, I could imagine it would be really interesting design)

It's funny because quite a bit of the Colombian design aligns with how a Berbers civ would likely want to function. Light cavalry, extra movement, some sort of agricultural bonus. And alternatively, the Mapuche seem to cover other aspects one might expect like the pillaging bonus and minor cultural bonus.

The more I think about it I'm finding it difficult to imagine a clear niche for the Berbers that doesn't substantially overlap with GC/Mapuche or Mali. I'm curious how much design space there actually is where so far nearly every civ has been designed with a specific playstyle/strategy in mind. The most I can see is that Numidia might get a lot of early game bonuses like Scythia?

It might also be neat if they were like a land-based Maori, encouraged to roam somehow before settling.

I do agree that something extremely gimmicky like a nomadic start bias might be necessary just to make the Berbers different enough from all the other light cavalry civs.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

I think that whatever North African civ we're getting, it likely isn't going to be a desert-oriented commerce civ like Mali. I don't really think domination fits either. The Numidians/Mauri/Berbers mostly engaged in conquest on behalf of whichever empire paid them. Like Carthage, Rome, Byzantines, or the Caliphate.

Maybe you can gift/sell your units to people for much fame and glory

 

[AsH2]

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SoonTM
MoorTires

It's an anagram for More Riots.

..and No Mots.

 

[SMcM]

The region was called Numidia, but she led a tribe of Chaoui Berbers. It wouldn’t be accurate for her to lead Numidia, but a numidian unit in the Berber civ wouldn’t be wrong.

Yeah, I think her leading a Berber civ makes much more sense.

 

[reddishrecue]

wait, plaid was the code name for ethiopia? if so, this code name could literally mean nothing.

And assuming code names do mean something, what does SoonTM mean? Does it refer to timeframes? then that would point towards bronze age ancient civ’s like Babylon, Assyria and the Hittites

The Hittites, wow that's a good ancient civilization.

 

[SMcM]

What are we talking about? Also SoonTM I presume just means announcement relatively soon or something? No way does that have something to do with bronze age civilizations imo!

 

[Thenewwwguy]

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What are we talking about? Also SoonTM I presume just means announcement relatively soon or something? No way does that have something to do with bronze age civilizations imo!

soontm is the september pack’s code name

 

[marius_kaparius]

If you look at the Linux and Mac Depots there are file listings for the README files that were removed, for example Linux TinyCar which show this:

Which means TinyCar is the Catherine persona. Using the same method:

Runner = Grand Colombia and Maya
Plaid = Ethiopia
ZoomZoom = Teddy Persona
TinyCar = Catherine Persona

I doubt the names mean anything but just posting in case anybody wonders which depots likely go with which packs.

lol, or you can do a mouseover of the Unused DLC part and you'll see the name and video of the pack it is

 

[PhoenicianGold]

If you look at the Linux and Mac Depots there are file listings for the README files that were removed, for example Linux TinyCar which show this:

View attachment 565294

Which means TinyCar is the Catherine persona. Using the same method:

Runner = Grand Colombia and Maya
Plaid = Ethiopia
ZoomZoom = Teddy Persona
TinyCar = Catherine Persona

I doubt the names mean anything but just posting in case anybody wonders which depots likely go with which packs.

They do seem to have a loose car theme? Where Zoom zoom is a Mazda slogan, Plaid would be a Tesla mode (Ludicrous Speed), and Runner could be...Forerunner, Blade Runner?

I would guess that whoever names these simply is a car enthusiast and what we are seeing is in fact their knee-jerk subconsciousness spitting out whatever arbitrary phrases memetically stuck to their brain.

..and No Mots.

SoonTM:

Soon: Swahili = Oman

TM: Timurids/Mughals = Gurkhani

Middle East Map confirmed.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Soon: Swahili = Oman

TM: Timurids/Mughals = Gurkhani

Middle East Map confirmed.

or swahili means swahili and it’s an indian ocean map

 

[PhoenicianGold]

or swahili means swahili and it’s an indian ocean map

Without the CHOLA?

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

All this talk of the Berbers being a the equivalent of a land Maori with the ability to sell their units to other civs sounds interesting indeed.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

They do seem to have a loose car theme? Where Zoom zoom is a Mazda slogan, Plaid would be a Tesla mode (Ludicrous Speed), and Runner could be...Forerunner, Blade Runner?

I would guess that whoever names these simply is a car enthusiast and what we are seeing is in fact their knee-jerk subconsciousness spitting out whatever arbitrary phrases memetically stuck to their brain.



SoonTM:

Soon: Swahili = Oman

TM: Timurids/Mughals = Gurkhani

Middle East Map confirmed.

The older DLC code names were made before NFP was announced and were hints to its existence and inferring that new content would soon be announced (speedily).

MoorTires looks like a different kind of hint.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Without the CHOLA?

you don’t have to be rude. We all have our favorite civs that we want to see in the game, and just because your only opinions are based on what you think the devs will do doesn’t mean that my desire to see Chola in the game can be the subject of your ridicule.

 

[Josephias]

They do seem to have a loose car theme? Where Zoom zoom is a Mazda slogan, Plaid would be a Tesla mode (Ludicrous Speed), and Runner could be...Forerunner, Blade Runner?

I would guess that whoever names these simply is a car enthusiast and what we are seeing is in fact their knee-jerk subconsciousness spitting out whatever arbitrary phrases memetically stuck to their brain.

Indeed, then we have TinyCar for a French leader. (well, the "european (and specifically french) cars are small" has been also quite a common meme)... and now MoorTires... so which leader of which part of the world will use a monster-truck type car? ( or if you go by wide instead of big tires, a formula car?)

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Indeed, then we have TinyCar for a French leader. (well, the "european (and specifically french) cars are small" has been also quite a common meme)... and now MoorTires... so which leader of which part of the world will use a monster-truck type car? ( or if you go by wide instead of big tires, a formula car?)

good question, if we get italy maybe it’ll be HotWheelz

 

[JJOne]

So, 15 years ago, Civ 4 had Gandhi, FDR, Churchill, Stalin (it doesn't get more controversial than this), Mao (died only 29 years before).
Now the only leaders in WW2 and afterwards are Wilhelmina, the meme favourite Gandhi and Curtis. I miss more modern civs and leaders, like a Ben Gurion Israeli civ, a Henri Guisan swiss civ, a Khrushchev USSR civ. Or if they need ladies, a Thatcher UK, or an Eva Peron Argentina (we already have Six Sky and Eleanor, so Evita would also fit). Or go for even a bit more recent, and replace Khrushchev with Gorbachev, make a Mandela South African civ, make a Walesa Poland... And all this without becoming controversial.

 

[untitledjuan]

So while the Maya influenced Latin American cultures, the Byzantines didn’t do the same for Middle Eastern ones.

Many mosques, especially Ottoman mosques, with their layouts and domes would like to disagree with you. The Byzantine architecture, specially Hagia Sophia, was very influential for mosque architecture throughout the Middle East, even if it is not as clear as the influence it had on Orthodox cathedrals.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

you don’t have to be rude. We all have our favorite civs that we want to see in the game, and just because your only opinions are based on what you think the devs will do doesn’t mean that my desire to see Chola in the game can be the subject of your ridicule.

Lol. I'm sorry if that came off as ridicule. I just was shocked that you would advocate for an Indian Ocean map pack without the quintessential Indian Ocean civ.

Indeed, then we have TinyCar for a French leader. (well, the "european (and specifically french) cars are small" has been also quite a common meme)... and now MoorTires... so which leader of which part of the world will use a monster-truck type car? ( or if you go by wide instead of big tires, a formula car?)

Well I doubt MoorTires even means anything, given that Mazda has nothing to do with Latin America and Tesla has nothing to do with Ethiopia.

But I still like to think that MoorTires is just a synonym swap for "Numidian Cavalry".

Stalin (it doesn't get more controversial than this)

Oh boy can it though.

 

[Zaarin]

So, 15 years ago, Civ 4 had Gandhi, FDR, Churchill, Stalin (it doesn't get more controversial than this), Mao (died only 29 years before).
Now the only leaders in WW2 and afterwards are Wilhelmina, the meme favourite Gandhi and Curtis. I miss more modern civs and leaders, like a Ben Gurion Israeli civ, a Henri Guisan swiss civ, a Khrushchev UdSSR civ. Or if they need ladies, a Thatcher UK, or an Eva Peron Argentina (we already have Six Sky and Eleanor, so Evita would also fit). Or go for even a bit more recent, and replace Khrushchev with Gorbachev, make a Mandela South African civ, make a Walesa Poland... And all this without becoming controversial.

I wouldn't touch a Civ game with this many modern leaders; Civ6 already has way, way too many.