[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[untitledjuan]

I'm certain it will be one civ with a leader for that civ. The "new civ and new leader" nomenclature has been used in the marketing materials before for that very typical arrangement.

And personally, I'm rather excited about the possibility of Luisa de Guzman for Portugal that someone mentioned a while back. I'm not entirely certain what her LUA would be, but she was integral in reestablishing Portuguese independence from Spain.

Maybe they could re-use the animations that could have been planned for a supposed Isabella in the leaked photos when the base game was going to be released. Though I do wish they released Isabella of Castile as an alt leader for Spain. I think Charles V could also work as an alternate leader for both Spain and Germany. King Alfonso X of Castile is also an interesting option for a medieval Spanish leader in a future game.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

And personally, I'm rather excited about the possibility of Luisa de Guzman for Portugal that someone mentioned a while back. I'm not entirely certain what her LUA would be, but she was integral in reestablishing Portuguese independence from Spain.

Gain 100% production in all cities and +2 movement for all units for the next 10 turns after declaring a Reconquest War.

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

I'm not placing any bets on the last leader being for two civs.

Looking at previous expansions, they followed a formula:

• 8 entirely new civs with new leaders
• 1 alternate leader

This can be applied to Rise and Fall (Chandragupta as the alt) and Gathering Storm (Eleanor as the alt). And while the NFP differentiates itself from other DLCs by being released over an entire year, it has followed every other convention of the previous expansions, so I see no reason for it to diffrentiate itself here.

As far as I can tell, the NFP will follow the same formula:

• We have our 8 new civs (Mayans, Gran Columbia, Ethiopia, Byzantium, Gaul, Babylon, Vietnam, ???)
• We have our alt leader (Kublai "Lip Gloss" Khan)

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I'm not placing any bets on the last leader being for two civs.

Looking at previous expansions, they followed a formula:

• 8 entirely new civs with new leaders
• 1 alternate leader

This can be applied to Rise and Fall (Chandragupta as the alt) and Gathering Storm (Eleanor as the alt). And while the NFP differentiates itself from other DLCs by being released over an entire year, it has followed every other convention of the previous expansions, so I see no reason for it to diffrentiate itself here.

As far as I can tell, the NFP will follow the same formula:

• We have our 8 new civs (Mayans, Gran Columbia, Ethiopia, Byzantium, Gaul, Babylon, Vietnam, ???)
• We have our alt leader (Kublai "Lip Gloss" Khan)

I agree.
Though if we do get Maria I for Portugal I can see myself modding her in as an alt leader of Brazil so I don't get Pedro II for Brazil every time they are in the game.

 

[Ticio]

I'm not placing any bets on the last leader being for two civs.

Looking at previous expansions, they followed a formula:

• 8 entirely new civs with new leaders
• 1 alternate leader

This can be applied to Rise and Fall (Chandragupta as the alt) and Gathering Storm (Eleanor as the alt). And while the NFP differentiates itself from other DLCs by being released over an entire year, it has followed every other convention of the previous expansions, so I see no reason for it to diffrentiate itself here.

As far as I can tell, the NFP will follow the same formula:

• We have our 8 new civs (Mayans, Gran Columbia, Ethiopia, Byzantium, Gaul, Babylon, Vietnam, ???)
• We have our alt leader (Kublai "Lip Gloss" Khan)

I think you are right... but! to reach any port during the storm, we can say that "Philips personas" would not count as new leader. Just a traditional leader that has the opportunity to lead another civ that had yet to come and was always intended that way (too stretched? )

After all, his greeting quote is literally "We are Philip, king of Spain and Portugal" so they don't have to change it at all!

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I think you are right... but! to reach any port during the storm, we can say that "Philips personas" would not count as new leader. Just a traditional leader that has the opportunity to lead another civ that had yet to come and was always intended that way (too stretched? )

After all, his greeting quote is literally "We are Philip, king of Spain and Portugal" so they don't have to change it at all!

In that case maybe Alexander can be the new leader for Egypt that everyone wanted considering he calls himself the Pharaoh in his greeting.

 

[Zaarin]

In that case maybe Alexander can be the new leader for Egypt that everyone wanted considering he calls himself the Pharaoh in his greeting.

"We understand you're upset about the leader of Egypt being a Hellene. So we're offering you an alternate leader of Egypt...who is also a Hellene, didn't even speak Egyptian, and really only stuck around long enough to conquer the place before moving on!" I guess while we're at it he can be the post-Achaemenid shah we've been asking for, too.

 

[Ticio]

In that case maybe Alexander can be the new leader for Egypt that everyone wanted considering he calls himself the Pharaoh in his greeting.

To be honest, that is pretty good idea!
And both would have a good synergy!

 

[SMcM]

I want to also note that since we almost universally prefer brand new civs to alt leaders, especially considering the hardest part about making a civ is the leader's animations, if there are any further expansions to civ6, I personally wish alt leaders will lead 2 civs, one new, one old. (This is the reason why I want to see Maria I leading both Portugal and Brazil). Seriously, after seeing how well designed Vietnam is as a civ, the announcement of Kublai just killed my mood. The best part of China under Qin was to rush wonders, now I have this boring ability of Kublai trying to leverage another boring and underwhelming civ ability.

I don't think we need new alt leaders at all, if they focus on trying to have leaders for both a new and an old civ that is needlessly restrictive. Like if they add a new civ to the game, I'd rather they prioritise making a good leader choice, not choosing a leader who can also be used for another civilization.

 

[Josephias]

Idk if she has been brought up, but we could have Luisa de Guzman if they are the civ indeed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luisa_de_Guzmán

Reading her bio, quite a big personality of these civ6 depelopers say they want for the leaders.

 

[BD123]

Love Luisa's hair. If she's in leading Portugal, I hope she has the little puppy in her portrait with her. Obviously the most important part in designing a Portugal civ no debates about that

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

Love Luisa's hair. If she's in leading Portugal, I hope she has the little puppy in her portrait with her. Obviously the most important part in designing a Portugal civ no debates about that

Kristina's hair could be used as a reference point for Luisa's hair. I'd happily accept her because I really don't want my Henry the Navigator idea to be put to waste.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Kristina's hair could be used as a reference point for Luisa's hair. I'd happily accept her because I really don't want my Henry the Navigator idea to be put to waste.

Watch Henry the Navigator show up anyway as a Great Explorer, unique type of Great Admiral, for Portugal anyway.

 

[untitledjuan]

But wouldn't it be a problem that Luisa de Guzmán is Spanish and not Portuguese? Would she speak in-game a mix of Spanish and Portuguese. Even though I think Catherine de' Medici is cool, I still would have rather preferred a completely French leader (such as Louis XIV or even Joan of Arc) over someone who isn't ethnically French.

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

I don't think we need new alt leaders at all, if they focus on trying to have leaders for both a new and an old civ that is needlessly restrictive. Like if they add a new civ to the game, I'd rather they prioritise making a good leader choice, not choosing a leader who can also be used for another civilization.

I don't see how more restrictive than it already is when they try to pick an alt leader purposefully for him/her to lead two existing civs. Nobody prefers alt leaders to brand new civs, but if there are new contents to come, brace yourself for at least 1 alt leader in the pack, so the question on whether or not we like one more alt leader bears barely any relevance.

 

[SMcM]

I don't see how more restrictive than it already is when they try to pick an alt leader purposefully for him/her to lead two existing civs. Nobody prefers alt leaders to brand new civs, but if there are new contents to come, brace yourself for at least 1 alt leader in the pack, so the question on whether or not we like one more alt leader bears barely any relevance.

I mean I never said it was more restrictive than that. I'm arguing they should stop bothering with alt leaders for multiple civs altogether- possible only doing that when a leader they have already decided on fits 2 civs, but not going out of their way to achieve that. You say I need to 'brace' myself for 1 alt leader each pack (perhaps that is an inevitability, I wouldn't know), but I do not see the harm in me expressing my disinterest in that, maybe someone in Firaxis will read these forums and notice people expressing preferences on this. I know this particular thread is significantly about speculation, but I don't see why I can't talk about what I think they should do as well.

Also regarding future content packs, what is the general feeling here on whether there will be more as opposed to focus starting to shift onto the next game in the series?

 

[Leucarum]

Also regarding future content packs, what is the general feeling here on whether there will be more as opposed to focus starting to shift onto the next game in the series?

The season comment in the last update video does make me suspect they probably will do more... If they said that and then didn't it would be quite a let down. Presumably NFP was a financial success?

 

[Zaarin]

Also regarding future content packs, what is the general feeling here on whether there will be more as opposed to focus starting to shift onto the next game in the series?

I personally don't think we'll see more, nor do I want to see more unless it's of considerably higher quality.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

The season comment in the last update video does make me suspect they probably will do more... If they said that and then didn't it would be quite a let down. Presumably NFP was a financial success?

I feel like they left it open ended the way they worded it, not confirming or denying anything else after the April update.

 

[Shibooyeah]

give me a civ with an ability to do a city project that generates diplomatic favor not having to rely on emergencies or whatever