Clown Car V: 2020 version!
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Imo Trump certainly uses ridiculously simple and dumb sentences, but Biden confuses himself more often. Arguably both are terrible for Potus, but it shouldn't matter in a so organized country where the actual potus isn't as powerful as the presidents/pms in most other western countries.
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So your position, simply stated, is Democrats who criticize Trump are like the Pharisees. The reasons your position is unsound are numerous, however I will give just two. First, your position depends on an incorrect interpretation of the meaning of what Jesus said/did in the "cast the first stone" story. The main point of the story is to remind us that God/Jesus is the ultimate judge, and we can not pass judgment on those who He has forgiven. Jesus was making the point that of all the people there judging the woman, he alone was in the superior position to do the judging.
Second, you seem to assume that Jesus was speaking about passing judgment generally. That is incorrect. Jesus was dealing with that one woman, in that one circumstance, facing that particular set of accusers. It wasn't intended as universally applicable, although his gesture in saving/forgiving the woman did make an interesting philosophical point about being thoughtful about the harshness with which we judge others.
The way you seem to want to interpret the story is in a "glass house" kind of way... to essentially preclude anyone from criticizing anyone else if they have any flaws themselves... specifically, because, as has been pointed out many times, you are desperate to defend Republicans, particularly Trump. So you have glitched onto this "glass house" interpretation of the "cast the first stone" so that you can use it as an absolute defense against anyone criticizing Trump. But this interpretation is absurd. People are flawed. No one is without mistake, blemish or wrong. For society to function, flawed people must be able to pass judgment on others for breaking the rules/laws or otherwise behaving poorly. So obviously, to interpret Jesus admonition to the Pharisees as stating that no one is allowed to judge anyone else if they themselves have done anything wrong is a completely nonsensical interpretation.
No. So again, your point fails.
No this is wrong as well. This is a third problem with your position. You keep bringing up the Pharisees because you think it is an absolute defense of Trump in the face of the criticisms of "flawed" Democrats. Putting aside the explanations above regarding the flaws in that position, raising the question of whether Jesus was "perfect" or not completely undermines your position. This is because your constant referencing of Jesus admonition to the Pharisees only works based on a presumption of Jesus unassailable credibility/authority as a divine being. It doesn't matter whether you use the word "perfect" or not... the point is that Jesus is correct, because he is Jesus, the Lord God, Son of God, divine Savior of man, etc.
If Jesus is, according to you... just some guy, then your constant referencing of what Jesus said no longer has any authoritative weight, so it is nonsensical for you to keep referencing him as if it does, since you're the one denying his "perfection". If Jesus isn't "perfect", if he isn't "divine", etc... then why are you quoting him as if he's authoritative? It makes no sense. If Jesus isn't "perfect", then he can easily just be flat out wrong. I know you are trying to be clever and edgy or whatever in questioning Jesus' "perfection", but what I'm pointing out is that this completely undercuts the point you are trying to make. As I've outlined above, the interpretation that you're advocating already makes no sense, so arguing out that Jesus isn't even "perfect" just makes your argument seem even weaker than it already was.
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once again , voting changes lots of things . Because Bidon might hurt the PM and cause an actually capable goverment in charge , with quite a potential in high tech that might simply mean another century for Anatolia as a Turkish country . lf you people are about to say this is off-topic it is only Biden winning the elections that some businessman laundering money for this odd mix of Azeri mafia / Armenian mafia / Mormon investment groups is actively pursued by New Turkey because in Trump's time , the same set of court orders were laughed at . On a week this supreme global hackers organization Anonymous or whatever implies New Turkey has laundered some 350 billion US dollars which is taken or pushed by Turkish speakers as PM having a wealth of this amount and his son-in-law is either in America (talking with Biden Team or in witness protection) or London (after having bought whole streets because there might be thousands of "emigrees" and "refugees" or in Tanzania because why not . lt also has led to some satellite channel being visible but the movies tonight are not to my taste .
translation : When we invade the whole world , every CFC member will be automatically living in Turkey , right ?
translation : When we invade the whole world , every CFC member will be automatically living in Turkey , right ?
Viewed in a certain theoretical way, if Turkey stops existing, everyone is part of it.
Aristotle once made a point about how in a way a sound can be an infinity of color - arguing in reality that sound isn't a color.
Captain Obvious. Still not seeing how you read my post as something else.
What was embarrassing is that he can't avoid even the worst gaffes, due to being old and feeble-minded.
Aristotle once made a point about how in a way a sound can be an infinity of color - arguing in reality that sound isn't a color.
Captain Obvious. Still not seeing how you read my post as something else.
What was embarrassing is that he can't avoid even the worst gaffes, due to being old and feeble-minded.
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Look, he's a supporter of the embodiment of excess who tries to pass himself off as some sort of Christian, you can stop there already.
He has a speech impediment that he is grappling with, a stutter, that he had since childhood, and has to work hard to control/suppress, so hearing folks calling him slow, senile, weak minded and such reminds a lot of the verbal/social abuse that people with speech impediments have to suffer.
A speech impediment won't make you say "president-elect" instead of "vice president-elect", let alone on national tv. If you think it will, you certainly never had experience with speech impediments; the person would then opt to just shut up (at worst) or (if possible) say something very roundabout or similar to the phrase which the speech impediment prevented him to use.
Sometimes you need to compare the risk. Biden zoning out (due to speech problems) would be preferable to making a gaffe and referring to Kamala as the potus and he certainly wouldn't refer to her as that willingly, so as to overcome speech impediments...
There are a variety of speech impediments that will cause such an effect, even if I don't know anything about Biden's impediment. There's something like 2 square centimeters of brainspace devoted to clear enunciation of what you're thinking ... that's a lot of real-estate in which to have a whole variety of issues.
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Maybe wear a mask and dont goto Trump superspreader propaganda events ? Or just inject disinfectant /s
Maybe wear a mask and dont goto Trump superspreader propaganda events ? Or just inject disinfectant /s
@Ziggy Stardust has already addressed this completely nonsense argument, and you've offered nothing in rebuttal, save for your typical deflection. I don't have anything to add.
You could read a book on speech impediments - that is if you actually read books
Then again, the goal here is never actually learning, is it.
Wouldn't a variety able to produce this specific gaffe, be not co-morbid with some deterioration? I am familiar with the type I spoke about. I do think this forum is exactly the place to share information without any fear of being attacked, at least when one discusses not the poster but their geriatric idol.
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Yep... more deflection... as usual... so cuteYou could read a book on speech impediments - that is if you actually read books
Anyway, it is an issue, to feel abused just cause something was said about another person (Biden). I do think that a good standard would be to treat comments against non-posters differently from comments against posters. And happy new year ^_^
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By calling him 'their geriatric idol', you're discussing the poster.
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Wouldn't be out of the question for the US state to sort of have Trump as a useful idiot, in having him do stuff like ordering the murder of that iranian high official, since he would lose power later anyway. Biden wouldn't be able to order such a kill, so wouldn't be useful in this way.
Not that Iran is some beacon of democracy - it's a theocracy. But the US doesn't like losing countries it once had as puppets, and see them become other countries' puppets.
Not that Iran is some beacon of democracy - it's a theocracy. But the US doesn't like losing countries it once had as puppets, and see them become other countries' puppets.
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