Manfred Belheim
Moaner Lisa
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So, you butt into this thread to falsely call me a liar because you didn't read your link carefully, and then when confronted with the fact that children have actually died in these camps you apparently don't find it worth commenting on either.
Firstly. Nobody ever "butts in" here. It's an open discussion forum.
Secondly. Are you actually annoyed that I readily admitted to making a mistake? What would you prefer I do? I googled "deaths in ICE custody", got a load of links with the number "24" in the title, looked down the list for something other than a recycled news story and thought the "list of deaths" link would be a good one, and was referring to the same thing. I also immediately scrolled down to the bottom to see how far it went back and then scrolled back up. I didn't notice the heading. My mistake. I also didn't notice that there were more than 24 deaths on the list.
However there still doesn't appear to be anything worth commenting on. The list goes back to the end of 2015, so covers a full year before Trump took office. You can see that there hasn't been any particular increase in (at least) adult deaths since that happened, staying pretty consistent at around 10 to 12 deaths per year. I don't know the exact figures, but a cursory google (and correct me if I'm inaccurate again) shows there are tens of thousands of people in ICE custody at any one time, up into the hundreds of thousands in total per year. Frankly it would be weirder if none had died.
I haven't read your links about the children dying, but again 7 out of tens/hundreds of thousands in (presumably) 2 and half years isn't a massive amount on the face of it. In fact it seems to be a significantly lower child mortality rate than in the US as a whole (which admittedly is pretty bad compared to other developed countries).