Current (SVN) development discussion thread

[Bair_the_Normal]

I haven't played DoC in about seven months now. I'm interested to see what's changed.

 

[soul-breathing]

New commit:
- new Moorish UU: Corsair: Privateer with +25% strength on coast, receives gold for sinking enemy ships
- new Moorish UHV:
- control three cities in Iberia, the Maghreb and West Africa in 1200 AD
- settle five great prophets, scientists or engineers in Cordoba by 1300 AD
- acquire 5000 gold through piracy by 1650 AD
- the Viking UP expires after the Middle Ages

Maybe 5 GPs and 5000 gold is a bit too much...

 

[BenZL43]

New commit:
- new Moorish UU: Corsair: Privateer with +25% strength on coast, receives gold for sinking enemy ships
- new Moorish UHV:
- control three cities in Iberia, the Maghreb and West Africa in 1200 AD
- settle five great prophets, scientists or engineers in Cordoba by 1300 AD
- acquire 5000 gold through piracy by 1650 AD
- the Viking UP expires after the Middle Ages

Moors
UHV #1 I assume by "control", you can achieve it by vassalizing Spain and/or Mali?
UHV #2 5 Great Person combined of GP + GS + GE or each 5 GP + 5 GS + 5 GE (for a total 15 Great Person)?
UHV#3 How much gold do you earn for each enemy ship sunk?

 

[Leoreth]

Maybe 5 GPs and 5000 gold is a bit too much...

I started high. I'll playtest them tomorrow.

Moors
UHV #1 I assume by "control", you can achieve it by vassalizing Spain and/or Mali?
UHV #2 5 Great Person combined of GP + GS + GE or each 5 GP + 5 GS + 5 GE (for a total 15 Great Person)?
UHV#3 How much gold do you earn for each enemy ship sunk?

1) No. Vassalization is always explicitly mentioned when it is an option.
2) "A total of ...", so 5 suffice.
3) Half its production cost.

 

[Oregon Lee]

Those corsairs sound beastly.

 

[ales_]

What is considered as piracy?

 

[Chep]

my guess would be sinking ships and blocking traderoutes via privateers.

 

[sebzilla]

Are there any plans to alter Arabia's expansion UHV? It's not made much sense since the Moors should be taking care of the Maghreb/Iberia parts of the condition, and it's weird to have to vassalise or destroy the Moors and then conquer Spain for them. It all feels like a hangover from before the Moors were even added.

 

[Leoreth]

New commit:
- improved Poland's settlement patterns (for real this time)
- Flavian Amphitheatre obsoletes with Feudalism
- medieval European civs start with Meditation
- it's harder for faraway civs to become worst enemies
- iron appears in Lusitania on Portugal's spawn

Are there any plans to alter Arabia's expansion UHV? It's not made much sense since the Moors should be taking care of the Maghreb/Iberia parts of the condition, and it's weird to have to vassalise or destroy the Moors and then conquer Spain for them. It all feels like a hangover from before the Moors were even added.

I thought about it, but I think it still makes sense to subjugate the Moors and unify the Caliphate.

 

[youtien]

New commit:
- improved Poland's settlement patterns (for real this time)
- Flavian Amphitheatre obsoletes with Feudalism
- medieval European civs start with Meditation
- it's harder for faraway civs to become worst enemies
- iron appears in Lusitania on Portugal's spawn


I thought about it, but I think it still makes sense to subjugate the Moors and unify the Caliphate.

So no more meditation-selling? It actually adds flavor. And does Portuguese get it and calender from start?

 

[Chep]

Are there any plans to alter Arabia's expansion UHV? It's not made much sense since the Moors should be taking care of the Maghreb/Iberia parts of the condition, and it's weird to have to vassalise or destroy the Moors and then conquer Spain for them. It all feels like a hangover from before the Moors were even added.

this is what stopped me from playing the Arabs for UHV. Domination & Religious Victory are still easily doable with them and feel much more "natural".

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

this is what stopped me from playing the Arabs for UHV. Domination & Religious Victory are still easily doable with them and feel much more "natural".

It doesn't really make much sense to me either, but it is a design artifact that conflicts with newer implements as stated.
Pertaining to Iberia, it could be changed to that part of the goal being changed to ensuring the Moors are alive or ensuring the Spanish are defeated.
And give the Moors and the Arabs hidden disposition bonuses to each other, as well as reducing the chance for war between them similarly to Portugal & Spain for instance.

 

[The Diocletian]

New commit:
- improved Poland's settlement patterns (for real this time)

I don't know how you did it, magic I'm assuming, but I'm forever grateful.

Now, about Ethiopia...

 

[Leoreth]

So no more meditation-selling? It actually adds flavor. And does Portuguese get it and calender from start?

Will do.

I don't know how you did it, magic I'm assuming, but I'm forever grateful.

Magic is a good way to phrase it.

 

[mrrandomplayer]

I don't know how you did it, magic I'm assuming, but I'm forever grateful.

Now, about Ethiopia...

Edit the settler maps. I saw the changes.

Also, how long until final 1.12 comes out?

 

[Leoreth]

Also, how long until final 1.12 comes out?

 

[Tigranes]

Have you tried running the SVN Cleanup command as suggested?

Yes, I get this error after cleanup command, it even says "cleanup failed".

 

[mrrandomplayer]

Yes, I get this error after cleanup command, it even says "cleanup failed".

This happens to me too.

 

[Tigranes]

...And? What do you do?

 

[mrrandomplayer]

I try to clean it up and it fails.