[RD] Daily Graphs and Charts

[Winner]

It's not that sparsely populated. There are 27million people living that.

It's probably because of the mining as Winner mentioned and it's importance to Beijing and Tianjin. I know that it's rich in a lot of mineral resources.

I know, but it's very big, so the population to territory to resources ratio may be favourable.

 

[Leoreth]

Oh, sorry for that mix up. I always think Mongolia proper should be "inner" Mongolia

 

[bombshoo]

Something a little less serious for any Seinfeld fans.

Spoiler :

 

[Godwynn]

The United States is managing to keep growth steady while Europe sinks, fast. Don't worry Europe, we'll save the world, again.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

First, it is not Europe, but the Euro area. Secondly: lol economic growth forecast.

 

[luiz]

Note that Brazil is growing and will continue to grow less than the world and Latin American average, but our pathetic government and much of our idiotic press keeps pretending we are the prime example of 21st Century economic success...

 

[Godwynn]

Note that Brazil is growing and will continue to grow less than the world and Latin American average, but our pathetic government and much of our idiotic press keeps pretending we are the prime example of 21st Century economic success...

That sounds a lot like the disease that is infecting Europe. Look at how great our Euro is!

 

[luiz]

That sounds a lot like the disease that is infecting Europe. Look at how great our Euro is!

In fairness to Europeans I think they have been mostly cured by recent events. But they definately suffered from such disease in recent years; just reading older threads on CFC we can see a lot of references to the EU as the superpower of the future and nonsense like that, while it was pretty obvious for all paying attention that Europe would continue on its route of relative decadence for the forseeable future.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

So Germany had about 1,5 times the GDP growth rate of the USA in 2012, but it's much lower on the list because of the prediction that US growth will remain stable and Gemany will come to a grinding halt

 

[luiz]

Another chart, this one about the evolution of energy sources, from 1970 to 2030. Like I always say, we're moving away from a scenario where one energy source is clearly dominant to one where there's a mix of roughly equal sources.

It's also nice to note how much more efficient our economies have become in using energy to generate money. Capitalism works and will save the planet

http://media.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/original-size/20120128_WOC470_0.gif

 

[Winner]

First, it is not Europe, but the Euro area. Secondly: lol economic growth forecast.

Thirdly, lol economic growth.

 

[Murky]

This is somewhat encouraging

This isn't so good

 

[Leoreth]

Thirdly, lol economic growth.

This, especially. Most European societies are not geared up for zero growth, but they remain stable and keep everyone well off at much lower growth rates than the US, which has a need for growth that sometimes reminds me of a gigantic snowball system.

 

[kronic]

This, especially. Most European societies are not geared up for zero growth, but they remain stable and keep everyone well off at much lower growth rates than the US, which has a need for growth that sometimes reminds me of a gigantic snowball system.

Much of that has to do with population dynamics. If you use per capita growth or adjust it for the working age population, Europe and the US are not that terribly different. The US just needs more growth to create enough jobs for hundreds of thousands of people who enter the workforce every year. We, on the other hand, have other problems, especially in Germany.

 

[Monsterzuma]

This, especially. Most European societies are not geared up for zero growth, but they remain stable and keep everyone well off at much lower growth rates than the US, which has a need for growth that sometimes reminds me of a gigantic snowball system.

I don't see how Europe is less dependent on growth. It has similar aggregate debt levels that require constant growth to be maintained. In several respects these financial structures are more fragile than the American ones (see Greece), and the private sector is more indebted as a percentage of GDP. When it comes to debt service, growing population and a rising/stabilizing worker/retiree level are a major asset. In addition it has a more rigid social contract that will not flexibly adjust under pressure.

 

[Winner]

This, especially. Most European societies are not geared up for zero growth, but they remain stable and keep everyone well off at much lower growth rates than the US, which has a need for growth that sometimes reminds me of a gigantic snowball system.

Also, it depends on what creates this economic growth. "GDP growth" is a number that is oft driven by things that are not only unhealthy, but actually harmful in the long term (excessive borrowing is one of them).

Greece was growing pretty fast until it fell into this crap, and we can now see that this "economic growth" was in fact completely illusory - an imaginary number, nothing real and solid. The US GDP growth is usually driven by excessive consumption, and this feeds economic growth in the likes of China.

 

[Winner]

If you don't know what to read next:

Spoiler :

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Nice , but I took one look at it and spotted the first (minor) spoiler within seconds.
For shame.

 

[Winner]

Well, I *did* put it in spoiler tags

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

If you don't know what to read next:

There's only fiction here.