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[gay_Aleks]

Population, I guess. Also, there's the famed English weather, which probably ruins all the above efforts.

 

[Tee Kay]

OK. How do you manage to be #1 on everything yet #10 on healthy lives?

Good healthcare system, terrible healthy living habits?

 

[Tahuti]

ok. How do you manage to be #1 on everything yet #10 on healthy lives?

[capslock]socialized medicine[/capslock]

 

[Mise]

From the full report:

The goal of a well-functioning health care system is to ensure that people lead long, healthy, and productive
lives. To measure this dimension, Exhibit 8 includes three outcome indicators, including mortality amenable
to health care—that is, deaths that could have been prevented with timely and effective care; infant mortality;
and healthy life expectancy.

I have no idea how the UK scores so badly in these:

 

[ArneHD]

Also, what's up with Norway? We're doing horribly!

 

[metatron]

OK. How do you manage to be #1 on everything yet #10 on healthy lives?

Read the report.

It's easy when categories 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 10 are mostly biased nonsense.

Population, I guess. Also, there's the famed English weather, which probably ruins all the above efforts.

The hard metrics reflected in "healthy lives" are abyssmal (in the UK), hardly a reflection of the mildest climate in northern Europe.

Also, what's up with Norway? We're doing horribly!

What you want to look at is "timeliness of care", "equity" and (and that's where 80% of your appreciation should go) "healthy lives".
I.e. outcomes.

Such as infant mortality, result of gruesome British weather...

Granted, those metrics aren't exactly great for Norway.
But you can completely ignore those 11s. Complete and utter bullpucky.

 

[Borachio]

OK. How do you manage to be #1 on everything yet #10 on healthy lives?

Binge drinking, and sitting down a lot?

 

[metatron]

Binge drinking, and sitting down a lot?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption

Anyway, this can't really explain the infant mortality, unless you people have pregnant women drunk dancing on the tables and involved in closing hour street fights all the time. And even then it's still kind of a long shot.

 

[Borachio]

Yes. It's not the total alcohol consumption that's significant. It's the pattern of drinking.

Binge drinking involves "necking" vast quantities in 4 or 5 hours on a Friday or Saturday evening.

So, instead of drinking 1/2 to 1 bottle of wine a day seven days a week, your British drinker will consume 1/2 that amount in two sessions of 5 hours. Or something. I'm just making stuff up as I go, tbh. But hopefully it paints the right sort of picture.

Binge drinking, they say, is injurious to the health.

 

[metatron]

Yes. It's not the total alcohol consumption that's significant. It's the pattern of drinking.

Binge drinking involves "necking" vast quantities in 4 or 5 hours on a Friday or Saturday evening.

So, instead of drinking 1/2 to 1 bottle of wine a day seven days a week, your British drinker will consume 1/2 that amount in 10 hours.

Well, it's not like the other protestants had no talent for that.

Do i have to get the pictures of Swedes derping about on their home made liquor lighter fluid?

 

[Borachio]

No, indeed. But the Swedes, and other Scandinavians, and especially the Icelanders, have gone in for some really draconian restrictions on alcohol. Mainly through pricing. Which seems to work well.

Hooch is not a thing to be encouraged.

 

[metatron]

Or maybe income inequality may "help" just the slightest bit?

Spoiler :

Maybe that's more relevant to, say, infant mortality than marginal differences in alcohol consumption?

Actually if you put the 11 countries in order of income inequality you have a much better (negative) correlation with "healthy lives" than the funny criteria 1-10 in that study.
Norway and the Germany underpreform a little, France and Switzerland overperform a little.
Other than that it's virtually an exact match.

 

[Traitorfish]

No, indeed. But the Swedes, and other Scandinavians, and especially the Icelanders, have gone in for some really draconian restrictions on alcohol. Mainly through pricing. Which seems to work well.

Hooch is not a thing to be encouraged.

Neither is regressive taxation, though, which is the core of the Scandinavian model.

 

[classical_hero]

OK. How do you manage to be #1 on everything yet #10 on healthy lives?

Have you ever tried eating British Food?

 

[Borachio]

I rarely eat anything else. And I'm as fit as a... No, hang on. Forget that.

 

[Mango Elephant]

I've never had British food. What's wrong with it?

 

[Borachio]

It's easier to say what's right with it:

It's a lot better than Scottish or Irish food. And doesn't feature any dried herring, which puts it streaks ahead of Scandinavian and Icelandic food.

 

[classical_hero]

Try having [wiki]Hákarl[/wiki]

 

[Mango Elephant]

It's easier to say what's right with it:

It's a lot better than Scottish or Irish food. And doesn't feature any dried herring, which puts it streaks ahead of Scandinavian and Icelandic food.

That literally means nothing to me. I don't know anything about Scottish or Irish food, either.

 

[Algeroth]

Have you ever tried eating British Food?

Pretty good actually.